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avengers23
Banned
Man, Umaga was good.
Really cool article on lucha libre in Bronx, NY: http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/city/city/216813-lucha-libre-wresting-bronx
Really cool article on lucha libre in Bronx, NY: http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/city/city/216813-lucha-libre-wresting-bronx
Ninja Scooter
Member
Every wrestler has done steroids
slightconfuse
Banned
Umaga is proof everyone should spend time in Japan or the indies.
No one remembers Jamal (or 3 minute warning)
No one remembers Jamal (or 3 minute warning)
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Umaga was like reverse Rikishi
Umaga: meh tag team to dope savage
Rikishi: Dope savage tag team to meh singles guy
Umaga: meh tag team to dope savage
Rikishi: Dope savage tag team to meh singles guy
slightconfuse
Banned
Remember when Ted Dibsiase jr fought Kenta?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdn7mq_ted-dibiase-jr-vs-kenta-part-1-of-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdn7xa_ted-dibiase-jr-vs-kenta-part-2-of-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdn7mq_ted-dibiase-jr-vs-kenta-part-1-of-2_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdn7xa_ted-dibiase-jr-vs-kenta-part-2-of-2_sport
shaowebb
Member
They need to retire Taker and Kane and find a way to hand over their gimmick to these guys. Those are monsters and they'd do right with a good Chokeslam as a finish.
Bluekaveli
Member
Maybe Steroids from albuterol.
I'd sign up for this if I had a single athletic bone in my body.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
In this RAW from 2002, GM Ric Flair is apologizing to the crowd for opening the show and taking time away from the talent.
How times have changed.
How times have changed.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Albuterol Del Rio?
Bluekaveli
Member
Nah he's not smoking like that.
Great article. Kinda makes me wanna go see one of the shows now.
Even that, a really great early 1990's match, is marred by the booking. Macho hits him with his finisher five times and he doesn't go down. Even Rock and Austin would have been embarrassed by that!
Ninja Scooter
Member
I said "wrestler" not "reality show stand in"
Sibersk Esto
Banned
The hardcore championship was in a good spot where it gave an excuse for a title match on every RAW
LOL JR accidentally called Raven Scotty
LOL JR accidentally called Raven Scotty
slightconfuse
Banned
is it still 24/7 rules? loved when guys would get pinned in hotels and such. all those crash holly videos were the best
Bluekaveli
Member
You have to put the building on Warrior to pin him.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yep. Bubba was pinned by Raven and lost the title, then Tommy Dreamer came out and pinned him for the title, then Steven Richards pinned him for the title, then Bubba pinned him to win it back.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Fun fact: The Booker T/Goldust tag team came about in a hardcore title match between Booker and Bubba when Goldust came in to take advantage of the 24/7 rules and failed.
Warrior is the worst. At least Hogan put some guys over in his career, Warrior never lost clean and could take a shotgun blast to the face and still kick out at 2.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Jaqueline's intergender era was interesting
Still couldn't match Chyna's mystique though. Chyna was positioned from day one of her bodyguard role as someone who was above women's wrestling and the equal of most men. They even considered giving her the world title a few times, though the IC was about right for her skill.
Chyna really should be in the HOF.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
So Regal is in a feud with Spike Dudley because Spike has upset him two weeks in a row, the second time for the European title. Meanwhile Eddie Guerrero attacked IC champion Rob Van Dam after Rob successfully defended the belt and hit the frog splash on him. The next week (the same week Spike won the title from Regal), Eddie cost Van Dam a match with Undertaker, a match that made Rob look incredibly strong because it still took Taker everything to beat him.
On this RAW, Eddie is given promo time to explain he wants the IC Title because the brands are split and he wants to make a name for himself. Also, he feels Rob stole the frog splash from him. Regal is also given promo time where he goes old school and talks about how he's going to tear spike apart. Regal and Eddie will team against Spike and Rob. All four of these men will be involved in their respected title matches on the backlash PPV.
BOOKING
THE
MIDCARD
The intergender shtick seems more suited to Jazz at this point honestly.
On this RAW, Eddie is given promo time to explain he wants the IC Title because the brands are split and he wants to make a name for himself. Also, he feels Rob stole the frog splash from him. Regal is also given promo time where he goes old school and talks about how he's going to tear spike apart. Regal and Eddie will team against Spike and Rob. All four of these men will be involved in their respected title matches on the backlash PPV.
BOOKING
THE
MIDCARD
The intergender shtick seems more suited to Jazz at this point honestly.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Guys how would Mr. Bork Laser do in a real fight CS Floydd Mayweather?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Hey guys remember how Brock's first singles match was against Matt Hardy, and the build to that match included Paul Heyman attempting to proposition Lita for sex while twirling her thong? And then later in the night Paul cost the Hardys the match by pulling out her whole suitcase of thongs so that Brock could F5 Matt on the steel?
Great stuff.
Great stuff.
Mayweather isn't trained to take a takedown
also Brock is literally twice his size
Brock could probably win a boxing match with that advantage, given his mma training. Weight classes in legit and semi-legit sports are there for a reason!
Not that I didn't love the wild west days of the UFC with no weight classes and getting sumos versus kick boxers and other fuckery.
The Shapesmith
Member
Floyd would get destroyed by any top tier MMA fighter. Boxing is great and all but Floyd would be worse than Me the 1st time I tried jiu jitsu.
Brock is like twice is size and floyd never trained for somebody taking you to the ground.
Don't mess with dudes with cauliflower ear
Sibersk Esto
Banned
The RAWs I'm watching during this time period are in this sweet spot where:
The only long segments are about building to a title match on the PPVs.
The world champion (HHH) is there to hype up his match but not to wrestle until his PPV match. He's barely there, but his appearances are also treated as a big deal.
The IC champ is booked super strong.
There's at least one lesser title match per show.
The matches are shorter, but they all tell a story, and they all build to something.
Heels do evil shit.
The pacing of match>promo>segment>match makes everything feel really fast and the show breezes by.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE SHOW, MAN AND WOMAN, HAS A STORY GOING ON WITH AN ACCOMPANYING PROMO/BACKSTAGE SEGMENT.
Where did it go wrong friends?
The only long segments are about building to a title match on the PPVs.
The world champion (HHH) is there to hype up his match but not to wrestle until his PPV match. He's barely there, but his appearances are also treated as a big deal.
The IC champ is booked super strong.
There's at least one lesser title match per show.
The matches are shorter, but they all tell a story, and they all build to something.
Heels do evil shit.
The pacing of match>promo>segment>match makes everything feel really fast and the show breezes by.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE SHOW, MAN AND WOMAN, HAS A STORY GOING ON WITH AN ACCOMPANYING PROMO/BACKSTAGE SEGMENT.
Where did it go wrong friends?
3 hour RAWs gave us a bunch of excellent wrestling to fill time.
But because of the need for long matches, they tend to throw the same people who are working the house shows out there to do matches they've done a bunch before.
Since its the same people, no one gets heat. Everyone trades wins besides the top guys, who are either well booked special event types like Brock and Taker, or named JOHN CENA.
They'll do something new, and we'll cheer because it's good or groan because it's bad. Then they'll fuck it up.
The only way to do 3 hour RAWs with this much wrestling would be to double or triple the roster and give people large amount of time off to cycle everyone in and out.
But because of the need for long matches, they tend to throw the same people who are working the house shows out there to do matches they've done a bunch before.
Since its the same people, no one gets heat. Everyone trades wins besides the top guys, who are either well booked special event types like Brock and Taker, or named JOHN CENA.
They'll do something new, and we'll cheer because it's good or groan because it's bad. Then they'll fuck it up.
The only way to do 3 hour RAWs with this much wrestling would be to double or triple the roster and give people large amount of time off to cycle everyone in and out.
It takes them awhile to figure it out. Honestly I find one hour Nitros to be the best, followed by three hours, because the first 90 minutes of those shows were usually great in an attempt to keep people from ever switching to RAW. Two hour Nitros didn't figure out the key of making the first hour the cruiserweight hour most of the time.
Bluekaveli
Member
Of course but she never will. Both parties fuckrd up in this situation but Hunter was the lead fucker in this one. You have to be a jerk to cheat on thr girl you've been with for almost 3 years to mess with the bosses daughter just to get yourself higher in the company. He wasn't man enough to even tell her, she found out by a love letter.
Well Chyna was supposed to be that woman bit she did Playboy instead.
Professor Beef
Banned
WWE endorsed her Playboy appearance. You're thinking about her hardcore porn video.
Bluekaveli
Member
Nooo, it was a choice between Playboy or being WWF champion. Vince knew if she took that route then they couldn't put the strap on her.
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Banned
found 2 hr nitros a chore to get through. might pick it up after I'm done with these 98 raws(which are super easy to get through)
Bluekaveli
Member
http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/2015/08/chyna-says-playboy-cost-her-the-wwe-championship/
It would've been sweet if she got the title first then did Playboy but yeah.
Thw writer thinks that it wouldn't have happened due to the title scene but Angle was merely a comic character(wasn't the serious guy yet) and I believe they could've pulled an angle with him
But they needed to put over Vinces fake son.
Professor Beef
Banned
Poor Mr. Kennedy.
When Nintendo needed every possible sale they could get.
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