Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
In fairness to them, putting Bryan in the Rumble last year was a huge fucking mistake if they were trying to get Roman over.
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In fairness to them, putting Bryan in the Rumble last year was a huge fucking mistake if they were trying to get Roman over.
What about writing Roman as the cena fans hate?
Officerrob
Banned
Nobody can convince me that last years rumble was not booked to piss off the fans
This is the reason the fans hate him now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There's a billion mistakes there obviously. I wouldn't be surprised in any way if they felt like Roman already paid his dues by as a heel to get over by being in the Shield despite the fact that Roman didn't say or do much in that group. But making Bryan's first appearance back the same event where the last 20 minutes of the previous version was booing and Daniel Bryan chants when you're booking a guy who the crowd is 50-50 on is just not smart. The Rumble is different than the other PPVs. You can easily stick Bryan at WrestleMania fighting some other indie darling and it will be fine because it tempers the audience expectations he's going to magically show up in the main event.
There's almost 0 incentive to have Bryan appear right now regardless of his health.
real_slime
Banned
Just watching Jericho's debut. Man. He had that character completely formed in like 5 minutes, including various catchphrases. Was anyone of this taken from his WCW run?
Don't get to exited it could be a mistake or he is at the shows but not wrestling.
As for the Rumble disaster last year the whole problem is some in WWE don't know what they have in Bryan. They are befuddled by why he is so popular and this belief led to two years in the row the Rumble becoming the biggest heel in wrestling.
Cause how stupid you would be to put Bryan in the Rumble not knowing the fans expect him to win because he never got the title run they wanted from him because of his injury.
A lot of it was.
Officerrob
Banned
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I always forget the end of that segment was the Rock throwing out a bunch of his dumb Rock catchphrases and Jericho being like "wat"
More or less.
Prior to him leaving WCW, Jericho's character was almost like how he was in the WWE.
All of it was.
Which is was the people wanted. Jericho was ready for the main event, but WCW kept him down, then he was off of TV for months before his Raw debut and people were so much wanting him to be in the main event. Debuting him against The Rock was really smart.
He should have won the title in his first match on PPV, though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The problem is that Bryan gets pops, but even when Bryan was a big thing its not like ratings were through the roof. If he could pull a point in the Nielsons, he'd be on regardless of whether his head was on straight.
I would seriously question whether there's any single thing they could do that would just pop ratings. I mean, I can come up with one - Heel John Cena headlines Mania against returning, anti-corporation babyface CM Punk. But that's so incredibly out there in fantasy land its not worth thinking about.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Here's a dope idea,
Stop interrupting every match for a commercial break.
Stop interrupting every match for a commercial break.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
You can't turn Cena heel because there isn't a big enough baby face for him to do wrong or go up against. It would have virtually no impact.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Yeah basically he was the same guy from wcw until 2008
That and literally everyone who was booing him before would be cheering wildly, so it all cancels out.
real_slime
Banned
Cool. Well that explains that, cos otherwise, it would be insanely impressive.
Moving on, I'm now checking out Hogan v Rock. How dare these fans boo The Rock so overwhelmingly.
avengers23
Banned
Because they didn't have the Nature Boy when they faced the Shield.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I'm still of the opinion that tv matches should be shorter and should be filled with more character and story building. The longest matches should be the main event and the more important matches.
Were people actually blaming fans? Because almost all reactions fans have is due to the bungling and mismanagement upon the part of the WWE. They've succeeded in making the audience behave a certain way, only it's opposite of what the WWE wants due to how bad they handle everything. The only blame is upon the WWE in the end. Bite the hand that feeds you and all that.
real_slime
Banned
A lot of crazy shit happens in here in the off season, pal.
That's why he should've turned heel while breaking the Undertaker's streak for the nuclearest heat of all time.
Liquidsnake
Banned
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well, I mean, my ridiculous fantasy scenario had CM Punk brainwashed into coming back.
You have to go full Insane Bob Backland with Cena
I think it's more than just in ring or merch reasons.. I think it's the fact that there's probably nobody that will be a company man like him. Squeaky clean, lives and breathes the company, has probably worked more shows, tv and house, than everybody else on the roster and hasn't complained once, works hurt and will come back from injury early, great company ambassador, does all the appearances/Make a Wish/etc, barely takes time off....whoever ends up as the next "ace" will be expected to do all of that and more.
If there was another guy on the roster that could do all of that and be a decent performer, Cena could turn with no problem.
Only Brock Lesnar could have gone from being the guy who broke the streak to the most popular face on the roster within a year.
British Monsoon
Member
Watched a STARDOM show from last week, the top two matches were great - Io Shirai is ridiculously good, she had an awesome match with Sendai Sachiko (barring one nasty superplex spot). Was pretty impressed by Mayu Iwatani in the main event as well, she showed a ton of fire in the process of taking an absolute goddamn beating from Meiko Satomura.
pantsattack
Member
WWE has me holding on by a thread WrestleGAF. At least the podcasts stay fun.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
He would have gotten Shawn Michaels Faking Out the Montreal Crowd With Bret Hart's Music-level heat if he did it as a face.
real_slime
Banned
Cena as a heel is a waste of talent like turning Austin heel was. The dude is over with mainstream audiences - his spot as dominant US champ with the occasional guy going over him is exactly right, maybe throw in one more WWE champ run, but Cena in his current incarnation is gold.
He was terrible before, but he's good now.
He was terrible before, but he's good now.
UberTag
Member
The mere fact that they brought Bryan back for the Rumble thinking it wouldn't have any impact on how the fans responded to Roman showed just how tone-deaf they are.
The one guy who came the closest to doing all of the above? The Miz. Oddly enough, he's also the one guy who got a pinfall win over Cena in the main event of WrestleMania.
Meltzer knows who pays his bills. It's angry, disenchanted wrestling fans.
Problem is when those fans turn apathetic and won't even pay money to hear Meltzer be real as fuck about the shitty product.
Nocturnowl
Member
This just doesn't get old, fun to watch and a loving highlight of what's wrong with the booking.
Also Kane breaking that record.
That feeling when you see someone get thrown out of the ring about 2 minutes into a match and you can already hear Cole's break heralding speech in your head before he actually starts.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Alvarez actually said...Sunday night or early Monday I think that they always see a big increase in subs whenever WWE or TNA do something really stupid
Which has been noticably frequently over the last few years
Which has been noticably frequently over the last few years
Ninja Scooter
Member
People still watch wrestling?
real_slime
Banned
wow what a surprise
you still watch the lakers
real_slime
Banned
take a break pal, if that's how it is. we aren't dying for ninja scooter's take.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
According to the ratings: No.
British Monsoon
Member
Oh, awesome - Demand PROGRESS and other VOD services that make use of Pivotshare (ICW, AIW, SMASH, CZW, etc) will now work via the PS4 & XB1 web browsers.
Hint, hint.
Hint, hint.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'm Mr. Burns pointing at the sign saying "don't forget, you're here forever"
Austin never got that polarizing half hate half love reaction, especially not for 9 years.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I know y'all love indie wrestling but no matter how bad the WWE product is I'm not turning to carny entertainment that takes place at actual carnivals.
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