They actually nearly got him to fight HHH at X-7. Then they talked to Ray Lewis, who backed out, so he fought Biker Taker instead.
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They actually nearly got him to fight HHH at X-7. Then they talked to Ray Lewis, who backed out, so he fought Biker Taker instead.
Huh. I'd only ever heard of the gun angle getting them in some hot water.
They had Shamrock by that point, so it didn't seem out of the realm of possibility. Would he have been a good wrestler? Probably not, the first time someone stiffed him, he would've laid them out. But it would've popped a buyrate for sure.
I remember my Dad showing me a news article about how the original Ultimate Warrior died of a heart attack in one of the tabloid newspapers at the drug store... might have been the Weekly World News. I'm pretty sure that's how it spread so fast. I remember it being black and white and having pictures of the old warrior next to the "new" one.
It was huge. If you look at the Raw ratings history you can see the spike when Tyson shows up.
Bluekaveli
Member
You remember the black guy that was with Jericho? He injured Kenny and Ken was shelved and the estimate return time for 6 monthsj
(dealt with his neck) . Vince wanted him back in like a month or two. Kenny said they agreed to part ways because there was no way he'd be back in time
If you want I can link you to his interview where he talks about it. But at the same time it was best for him because being a wrestler destroyed his family. Very sad.
Well as much as I love HBK that was another factor of him and his powers. He felt like if he beats Kenny it would give him more heel heat. Shit Vince was sold on Kenny but yeah ot withered away. Then you saw the rise of Austin. They fucked up with Shamrock, not the other way around. He was 7 years too early, if he debuted in 2000 and stayed around by 2003 he could've definitely gotten a boost from the Ruthless Aggression era.
Jezbollah
Member
Yeah, I remember this at the time - it was right in the time of the two fights he had with Holyfield - he was pretty much at the end of his peak of his career.
The brawl on Raw was a massive moment.
That could be, too. I'd actually like to see how the photos looked, I could see them using Warrior in the casket on Funeral Parlor all like "photos from his wake!" or something.
But really, all it took was tuning in to Superstars and seeing a promo to go "yep, that's the same dude with a haircut."
avengers23
Banned
There was a rumor that AJ would defend the ROH title at WK10, but that's obviously not happening. Sakuraba has the Rizin fight, and Ibushi is probably hurt past January 4, so they're out. We'll probably get #BIGMIKE challenge for he NEVER title, so that's your special match unless they do the NOAH match at WK10.
Imagine if wcw locked up Tyson after he went to wwf to hear their offer.
Vince could have been so screwed. I mean so much depended on getting Austin over after bret.
I wouldn't have been surprised if Shawn and hhh pulled some kliq shit and convinced Vince that Austin wasn't ready.
Vince could have been so screwed. I mean so much depended on getting Austin over after bret.
I wouldn't have been surprised if Shawn and hhh pulled some kliq shit and convinced Vince that Austin wasn't ready.
Fourth Storm
Member
If we're talking wrestling leaking into the tabloids, does anyone else remember the paparazzi photos that showed Hogan skinny dipping w/ like 3 ladies? My grandmother showed up to my house w/ that shit one day, much to my mother's disgust.
Terry gettin those thrills Warrior spoke of...
Terry gettin those thrills Warrior spoke of...
spindashing
Banned
I forgot this guy existed. What was his gimmick, even? I remember the shades and the suit but that's it.
slightconfuse
Banned
Reminder this happens next week
Fourth Storm
Member
Wearing a perpetual grimace.
Reminder this happens next week
will it be recorded?
That was basically it. Tough guy with a shirt and tie. He stole the undertaker's urn once.
avengers23
Banned
Yup. Solid matches, even Konley vs. Galloway. Thatcher vs. Gargano is getting a little over-praised, but it was very good.
avengers23
Banned
Surprisingly decent. Riddle was a lot better than last time, even if it was a little sloppy in the end.
There was a smaller spike with Tyson than with the Montreal Screwjob and Austin/McMahon. Tyson was big but not something they really needed. It was smaller than a lot of other things at the time.
Before Survivor Series 1997, ratings were a 2.6 and then they were a 3.4. It stayed in the 3s after that. That's what made me start watching.
Then in Mar 30th 98, ratings were a 3.8, and on Apr 8 98, it was a 4.7 and it stayed in the mid 4s after that. Tyson didn't have anything to do with those dates in April. That was all Austin vs McMahon.
avengers23
Banned
It should be on New Japan World.
Bluekaveli
Member
Everyone needs a jobber. But yeah Kenny was about to beat the shit out of him but Jericho and a few others held him back.
I think it would've been hard to picture Owen as a tough guy but he was a good actor so he would've made it work. Would Hunter still marry Steph?
Yeah it's hard for me to take him seriously, especially since he had the blue blazer gimmick going on.
Fourth Storm
Member
I hate to say it, but it seemed like Owen started mailing it in after the Screw Job. His matches became somewhat paint by numbers and he put on some weight. I think he really planned on leaving the business shortly had that fateful event never occurred.
His push officially ended with the crotch shot from Chyna at WM14. Really, it ended when they decided to pair him w/ Hunter instead of Shawn.
Bluekaveli
Member
I believe he could've turned out around somehow. Like I said, he was a good actor.
4th yeah, he was coasting as he wanted to levee after his contract was up.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Orton's hurt and Ronda's filming in another country during then
Barrage
Member
If Finn's coming in that low on the card just keep him in NXT until after Mania.
I know the injury concerns, but if WWE has Lesnar and Rock on the card and they're not facing each other they're throwing money away.
slightconfuse
Banned
WWE should try to sign miesha tate
Professor Beef
Banned
I was a teenager with no access to the internet, so I had no idea and got my mind blown when I saw the reveal. Hell, I didn't know dirtsheets were a thing until the mid 2000s.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
He's out indefinitely so nobody knows if he'll be there or not
Fourth Storm
Member
It's gotta be Rock/Brock for the belt if they can get them both. I like Ambrose/Reigns, but they'll never do it right. They should do face vs face over the IC belt for a while and tease which one is gonna turn heal. As for who does, book it close to the event depending on the crowd reactions leading up.
I know they want merch sales, but they need one to be a heel for a while to develop character and sustain interest long term.
Bluekaveli
Member
I'm telling you Brock and Rock is moolah. That match alone will sell out the arena.
Fourth Storm
Member
Pretty easy set up if they can get Rock as a surprise entrant into the Royal Rumble. Have Lesnar win the strap earlier that same night. They just have to deal w/ the champ not being on TV every week, but they've done it effectively in the past. If they do Ambrose/Reigns right, at least one of them will end up more developed later in the year. They will probably pull the trigger on Reigns this WM, though.
Bluekaveli
Member
It could be done with or without the title but I guess since it'll overshadow whoever is wearing the strap, you may as well. Then have The Rock drop the title to Roman but have ie be a heel turn for Roman.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Every WrasslinGAF fantasy booking includes the phrase "...and then Roman Reigns turns heel!"
Bluekaveli
Member
He can't work the microphone at all. At least Cena can talk and work the crowd but Roman just can't. He needs a mouth piece. At least as a heel he can just be ruthless and beat everyone up like Lesnar.
Tony Chimmel v. Howard Finkel on the 3rd SD. I don't even.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
"...and then Daniel Bryan comes back!" became too depressing/unlikely at some point
avengers23
Banned
Because WWE faces, in particular, are generally racist, misogynist jerks.
This goes beyond wwe to every wrestling base ever. "Smart" fans prefer heels for all sorts of reasons.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
It sure is surprising to see them having face racist Swagger feud with heel Del Rio and both sides okay with it enough that it hasn't been scrapped yet
http://rspw.org/faq/4-keithfaq.txt
Good old nostalgia
The Wrestling Guide for Beginners 1999 Edition.
Good old nostalgia
The Wrestling Guide for Beginners 1999 Edition.
Bluekaveli
Member
Fucking hilarious!
He's really bad as a face. He's still Rocky Maivia out there.
Bluekaveli
Member
I always wondered how in the fuck did JR not laugh at some of this shit. But I know Cole has to be done especially with Gilberg coming out to face Hunter. King had the best job back then.
I still can't fucking believe that Bossman fed Al Snow pepper. I'm in here crying.
I still can't fucking believe that Bossman fed Al Snow pepper. I'm in here crying.
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