Naughty Dog absolutely disgusting TLOU:R MP monetization
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Exploratory
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Well comparatively are there skills or weapons only available in Battlefield by purchasing them? I honestly don't know.
Discount?! It's a graphical update for a year old game! It should be 40 bucks. The whole game is a cash grab.
I agree with that completely.
I'm only arguing against anyone's assertion that this provides an unfair advantage or ruins the balance, because it doesn't.
Correct. You have to pay for accessing them in your custom loadout.
Goddamn... that's fucking ridiculous.
Why you gonna do us dirty like that, ND... WHY?!
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
It would normally, but I assure you no advantage is gained from these things unless something fits someone's playstyle better.
Also FYI to those that had the PS3 version with the Season Pass, go onto the PSN Store and "purchase" all of these things for free and they will appear on PS4.
SovereignSnake
Banned
This is kind of dumb.
Well, the ones that come with the expansions.
Bluemercury
Member
Saying bad things of Naughty Dog here? Oh boy...
PedroLumpy
Member
Do those people not matter?
Eh, doesn't seem like a big deal. Taking into consideration the current balance of the multiplayer, none of these are overpowered or particularly useful, save for maybe Agility level 3 in very specific situations. The weapons are "purchasables", meaning you actually need to do pretty well in a match first, then purchase it with earned parts and have limited ammo (instead of buying the godlike armor or weapon upgrades). They don't really seem much more useful than craftables or the current purchasables, anyhow.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Yea I am done. Plenty of bad things are said about ND. They are not impervious to criticism. People have every right to call them out on this for sure.
My only point and the point some others are trying to make is that this stuff is in no way Pay to Win, and I hope it doesn't discourage people from playing a truly great and well designed and yes well balanced MP.
WonderCheese
Banned
This is gross.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
They do, but there is plenty in the base game that allows those same people to still be effective. There is everything you need for a sniper load out, stealth, run and gun, melee, support, and I am sure I am missing others.
quickwhips
Member
Should have clothes and hats only for purchase.
RedAssedApe
Banned
did you have the season pass from ps3?
Agreed.
Exploratory
Banned
Not if you want to do a knife loadout. Honestly most of the DLC skills are better than the regular ones.
blankempathy
Member
It may not be pay2win in this game but it promotes the practice of keeping content that actually affects gameplay behind a pay wall. So it still promotes the pay2win dlc practice. Do we have to actually wait until theres a game that actually locks game breaking and noticeably unfair advantages behind pay walls before people get upset?
The Strokes
Banned
I love how some people are defending this by saying "But they're free as a preset!" Yeah, Having to pay to customize your gear just make it way worse.
I love ND, but this only makes me worry (more) about how the multiplayer in UC4 is going to turn out.
I love ND, but this only makes me worry (more) about how the multiplayer in UC4 is going to turn out.
reptilescorpio
Member
All DLC should be free for every game to be honest.
yup, does it effect this? i thought remastered had all dlc up until now exept some cosmetic stuff?
There's some cosmetic DLC I'm ok with costing money. Things like taunts and wearable items.
Weapons and perks are just a terrible thing to keep behind a paywall.
The Strokes
Banned
What? No. I'm all for Having the option to pay for hats or skins that make your carácter ubique, as well as for content added to the main story (that it's actually good, not Harley Quinn's revenge level of crap)
It's the P2W stuff that is wrong and should stop.
Mr Moose
Member
It's cheaper than the PS3 version with the same stuff, so... Just don't buy it?
The news didn't get to me. I had no idea that some of the weapons and skills were locked away.
Dragonborn
Member
So you the weapons are still available, even if you don't pay. What's the issue here?
Giant Panda
Member
That's a shity move by Naughty Dog, preset combos or not.
PedroLumpy
Member
That's how you feel, what if they don't agree?
Look at it this way, you're trying to determine how bad this is. Mildly annoying or Game breaking? But perhaps it's more important to ask, is there any upside to this? If there's no upside, does it matter how bad it is? Wouldn't it be better to just not do the bad thing?
The game would be better served not having these things locked away. Doesn't make the multiplayer 'bad' or 'disgusting'. But this detracts from the game, however minor you think. It does not serve the game or the players best interest to continue this practise.
reptilescorpio
Member
Is it pay to win? Everyone has said you do not need to pay to win the MP mode of TLoU and TLoU:R?
Or do you mean anything gameplay related should be free? Like the stuff locked behind paywalls in BF4 and the like?
ExplodingKetchup
Member
I got the season pass for PS3 and have played the multiplayer a ton (I'm level 400 on PS3). The DLC weapons and perks are nothing to freak out about. As with any weapon in the game, it matters how you use it. The only perk that is really annoying is Bomb Expert 3, which allows people to smoke you out of nowhere and shiv you.
Most of the DLC weapons have a similar equivalent that is FREE
Shotgun - Double Barrel
Assault Rife - Specter
Burst/Semi - Full Auto
9mm/Revolver - Enforcer
The only thing that is unmatched is the Launcher but tbh that is a pretty useless weapon unless your whole team is running with it.
Maybe play the multiplayer before you complain that it's "GAME CHANGING OMG"
Most of the DLC weapons have a similar equivalent that is FREE
Shotgun - Double Barrel
Assault Rife - Specter
Burst/Semi - Full Auto
9mm/Revolver - Enforcer
The only thing that is unmatched is the Launcher but tbh that is a pretty useless weapon unless your whole team is running with it.
Maybe play the multiplayer before you complain that it's "GAME CHANGING OMG"
Fushichou187
Member
I agree that P2W is an awful model. Good thing TLoU's MP has nothing to do with that.
They can't be bothered. They're too outraged.
Abusing the reputation for the moolah.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
This is all that needs to be said.
I don't understand how people can defend anything that affects gameplay. People with more options have an advantage.
No, unless you decide to use the preset loadout which can't be customized. Tried it out myself in a match, and was starting to miss having some of my usual perks. Of course, I went back to my normal loadout.
No, but I believe if you bought they Season Pass they carry over to PS4.
Free with preset perks. That's a big difference, no?
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
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