CassidyIzABeast
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NBA 2016-2017 Season |OT| What do the Liberty Bell and Ben Simmons have in Common?
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They're releasing the results on 3/1...
LyleLanley
Banned
God damn it!
LyleLanley
Banned
This is karmic retribution for Draymond.
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
How could you joke about an injury like that?
Cool. Hope the Celts stay healthy.
Randolph Freelander
Member
LyleLanley
Banned
Andrew Korenchkin
Member
Fuck Olynyk.
Forgot about this. What a prick.
It's not a big deal tbh, if that's what it is than crisis avoided. he may have sprained a ligament or two, but his ACL should be fine and that's the most crucial of the bunch given it's entire lack of blood supply and recovery time. i doubt it's serious. It did look like his foot was planted which is the bad news, however you don't tear an ACL bending the knee the way it bent.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I should note that Jabari was given the same initial evaluation. Best case, he's out for a few weeks, probably more due to being cautious. Worst case, he tore a meniscus, and I doubt he has it removed at the age of 29, so it would be a few months of recovery
Lee Chaolan
Member
Fuck that guy. That picture is so damning even today. Can't believe he only got a one game suspension.
LyleLanley
Banned
"Sources: Warriors, Kevin Durant's inner-circle bracing for tough news on KD's knee, awaiting MRI result. Fear is he's out months, not weeks." - @WojVerticalNBA
Not sure how much that matters without the test results back.
Not sure how much that matters without the test results back.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
1m
Sources: Warriors, Kevin Durant's inner-circle bracing for tough news on KD's knee, awaiting MRI result. Fear is he's out months, not weeks.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
23s
Warriors and Durant will know full extent of injury after tests on Wednesday, but there's real doubt about a regular season return.
1m
Sources: Warriors, Kevin Durant's inner-circle bracing for tough news on KD's knee, awaiting MRI result. Fear is he's out months, not weeks.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
23s
Warriors and Durant will know full extent of injury after tests on Wednesday, but there's real doubt about a regular season return.
scoobs
Member
Zaza fell on his knee.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Should make things quite interesting.
Hope new Orleans can get something together and make the playoffs. They need some confidence and another player to step up Stat
Was Zaza flopping at all?
Hope new Orleans can get something together and make the playoffs. They need some confidence and another player to step up Stat
Was Zaza flopping at all?
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Zaza was thrown to the ground, and incidentally landed on Durants leg.
not sure how much of it was a flop to sell the throw and get the call, even though he was thrown back pretty hard.
Warriors fans and NBA fans have to hope this ends up exactly like Steph Curry last season. The first "diagnosis" after Game 4 vs. Rockets was a hyperextended knee but the outlook before his MRI wasn't good and everyone was waiting for the news about being out of the entire playoffs. I seriously hope the news is at least as good for KD, he could very well have just an hyperextended knee or something much worse. Until the MRI nobody knows for sure.
The fact they signed Barnes could be seen as an immediate reaction to him being out for the rest of the season, or just Warriors being safe about the rest of the regular season. At least if it ends up being just an hyperextended knee, they can rest KD until he's 100% healthy unlike Steph Curry last year.
The Lakers young core baffles me. I look at Randle and sometimes he does feel he could be Draymond Green-lite for the Lakers, other games he look like a 10th guy on a decent team. I hope he works on the range of his jumper and can be a lot more consistent.
The problem with Randle to me is that in the modern NBA he doesn't have the size or defensive ability to make up for lack of size to be a 5 or the range to spread the floor on offense as a 4.
The fact they signed Barnes could be seen as an immediate reaction to him being out for the rest of the season, or just Warriors being safe about the rest of the regular season. At least if it ends up being just an hyperextended knee, they can rest KD until he's 100% healthy unlike Steph Curry last year.
The Lakers young core baffles me. I look at Randle and sometimes he does feel he could be Draymond Green-lite for the Lakers, other games he look like a 10th guy on a decent team. I hope he works on the range of his jumper and can be a lot more consistent.
The problem with Randle to me is that in the modern NBA he doesn't have the size or defensive ability to make up for lack of size to be a 5 or the range to spread the floor on offense as a 4.
No time for Love.
Roland_Gunner
Member
Hopefully Durant makes it back and is 100% by the playoffs but if he's out or even limited that opens the door for San Antonio and Houston in the west.
Gully State
Member
I'd give KD my knees but they were just recently hyperextended playing ball as well. Matt Barnes signing in 2017.... 10 year anniversary of the We Believe run....its crazy to think that it's been that long since.
No way... Cavs are loaded
Gully State
Member
Only issue Cavs could have is chemistry or if somehow Lebron goes down (damn near impossible). Warriors even with that talent still have to go though the Western Conference guantlet whereas the Cavs will probably sweep their way through again.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
As much as I have disliked the Warriors I wouldn't want to see the Clippers make it. San Antonio would actually be a little boring for me too.
I'd any of the following teams to make a run
Boston
OKC
Rockets
Toronto
I don't really dislike the Spurs but they aren't doing anything that looks that entertaining for me recently.
I'd any of the following teams to make a run
Boston
OKC
Rockets
Toronto
I don't really dislike the Spurs but they aren't doing anything that looks that entertaining for me recently.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Depends. If the Wizards drop through 4th seed, then the Cavs are looking at a:
Pistons/Heat/Bucks -> Wizards -> Raptors
playoff route, which, if Lowry is back by then, is actually decently formidable, given the additions the Raptors have made.
LyleLanley
Banned
Perhaps Ainge should've made some trades.
He is going to get Sullinger. Stop being so greedy. That's more Sullingers than the Warriors, Cavs, Spurs, & Rockets have COMBINED.
LyleLanley
Banned
And he won't even have to give up a pick for Sully. Ainge does it again!
StanleyStutters
Member
Just saw that Durant play. Looks like Zaza was trying to sell a foul, but it's tough to tell. Hopefully, Durant can bounce back in time for the playoffs. It'll be a lot less interesting if he's sidelined.
To not win things? Maybe a small move.
By what measure? They're smaller and less talented with Speights, Bogut and Barbosa gone and Iggy looking slightly worst. As bad as Max Barnes was they would really miss him if KD wasnt there. I could see the Rockets beating them without KD.
Lionel Richie
Member
Dombrowski would have and that's why he's a rockstar.
Breaking.. Bone Bruise.. out weeks
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...te-warriors-miss-least-four-weeks-bone-bruise
"The Warriors announced that he is out indefinitely and would be re-evaluated in four weeks."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...te-warriors-miss-least-four-weeks-bone-bruise
"The Warriors announced that he is out indefinitely and would be re-evaluated in four weeks."
Roland_Gunner
Member
Supposedly this same injury kept Karl Malone out for eight weeks and he wasn't really the same until next season. Hopefully Durant can come back better with modern medicine.
StanleyStutters
Member
Good to hear. Hope he can get to 100%, or close to it, for the postseason.
Hyperactivity
Banned
The two biggest issues the Warriors have without Durant
- He's by far their most consistent shooter. This is mitigated by Curry recently getting back into his 2016 form, but it's still important, especially against a Rockets match-up, where the Warriors biggest advantage, by far, is their consistency.
- Rim protection. Durant + Draymond was huge for helping prevent successful drives to the basket.
Now, it's not all bad. Someone on reddit pointed this out:
The question is, can he get back into form, at least enough for the Dubs to beat whoever they play in the WCF, when he comes back. I imagine, if they get to the finals, he'll be closer to his normal form.
The most serious concern is the Warriors dropping to the 2nd seed. They're on their longest road stretch of the year right now, and in their schedule, have the following matches:
- A home game against the Celtics (only close home game)
- A road game against the Spurs on a back2back with the Timberwolves
- A road game against the Thunder
- A home game against the Grizzlies
- An away game against the Rockets, followed by an away game against the Spurs (B2B), followed by a home game against the Rockets (Rockets on a B2B after playing the Blazers)
- A home game against the Wizards
- Finishing up the season, 3 home games, against the Pelicans, Jazz, and the Lakers.
The Spurs and Rockets only have one game left against each other, hurting their chances of hurting each other's standings. While the Rockets have a seriously formidable March, their schedule is lightened up for the rest of the season in general.
For the Spurs:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/schedule/
Cavs, 1 Clippers (on a back 2 back), a Rockets, 3 Grizzlies, 2 Jazz, 1 Thunder
The clipper game is the only back to back of those games. Formidable, but they have a shot at taking the 1st seed.
If the Warriors fall to 2nd seed, then they're facing either the Thunder or the Grizzlies (ouch) first round. Both teams had a front-loaded schedule, but the Thunder seem to be on a roll right now, and apparently have the 2nd easiest schedule for the rest of the year. If the Warriors face the Grizzlies first round, ouch.
Tbh, I would seriously like the Grizzlies to fall to 7th seed. Because fuck anything and everything forest animals seem to the Rockets. The Grizzlies are only slightly below the Warriors on teams I would want to face first round.
Get out of the 1st round, and they're probably facing the Rockets. After that, either the Spurs or Clippers (Clippers tend to do well against the Spurs). I think Spurs series is definitely competitive, but if KD is coming back a little before then, and ESPECIALLY if they're playing the Clippers in the WCF, I think I'm, in some ways, less worried about the WCF.
At the WCF and Finals, the match-up is similar to a more grueling version of what the Warriors were already dealing with. I think the Grizzlies and Rockets series, where they wouldn't have KD, would be the serious upset threats, and what the Warriors would most have to worry about.
- He's by far their most consistent shooter. This is mitigated by Curry recently getting back into his 2016 form, but it's still important, especially against a Rockets match-up, where the Warriors biggest advantage, by far, is their consistency.
- Rim protection. Durant + Draymond was huge for helping prevent successful drives to the basket.
Now, it's not all bad. Someone on reddit pointed this out:
The question is, can he get back into form, at least enough for the Dubs to beat whoever they play in the WCF, when he comes back. I imagine, if they get to the finals, he'll be closer to his normal form.
The most serious concern is the Warriors dropping to the 2nd seed. They're on their longest road stretch of the year right now, and in their schedule, have the following matches:
- A home game against the Celtics (only close home game)
- A road game against the Spurs on a back2back with the Timberwolves
- A road game against the Thunder
- A home game against the Grizzlies
- An away game against the Rockets, followed by an away game against the Spurs (B2B), followed by a home game against the Rockets (Rockets on a B2B after playing the Blazers)
- A home game against the Wizards
- Finishing up the season, 3 home games, against the Pelicans, Jazz, and the Lakers.
The Spurs and Rockets only have one game left against each other, hurting their chances of hurting each other's standings. While the Rockets have a seriously formidable March, their schedule is lightened up for the rest of the season in general.
For the Spurs:
http://www.nba.com/spurs/schedule/
Cavs, 1 Clippers (on a back 2 back), a Rockets, 3 Grizzlies, 2 Jazz, 1 Thunder
The clipper game is the only back to back of those games. Formidable, but they have a shot at taking the 1st seed.
If the Warriors fall to 2nd seed, then they're facing either the Thunder or the Grizzlies (ouch) first round. Both teams had a front-loaded schedule, but the Thunder seem to be on a roll right now, and apparently have the 2nd easiest schedule for the rest of the year. If the Warriors face the Grizzlies first round, ouch.
Tbh, I would seriously like the Grizzlies to fall to 7th seed. Because fuck anything and everything forest animals seem to the Rockets. The Grizzlies are only slightly below the Warriors on teams I would want to face first round.
Get out of the 1st round, and they're probably facing the Rockets. After that, either the Spurs or Clippers (Clippers tend to do well against the Spurs). I think Spurs series is definitely competitive, but if KD is coming back a little before then, and ESPECIALLY if they're playing the Clippers in the WCF, I think I'm, in some ways, less worried about the WCF.
At the WCF and Finals, the match-up is similar to a more grueling version of what the Warriors were already dealing with. I think the Grizzlies and Rockets series, where they wouldn't have KD, would be the serious upset threats, and what the Warriors would most have to worry about.
Ouch, did you land wrong?
Hyperactivity
Banned
Good to hear.
He might still play in the regular season, but I'd bet the Warriors reintroduce him VERY SLOWLY in round 1 of the playoffs. By round 2 he's back.
West is way more shaky suddenly, 1st seed and a decent 1st round match-up are suddenly up for grabs, the Spurs and Rockets have a significantly buffed shot at the finals, the Clippers a buffed shot at the WCF, but at the same time we get to see the super-Dubs back together for the playoffs, hopefully
LyleLanley
Banned
Dombrowski would've given up the entire team and all the picks for Butler or George.