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NBA 2017 Playoffs |OT| WE DID IT
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Well I mean...
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That is how they made them play better. They didn't want to invoke his wrath.
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Outside of KD, who needs the ring the most out of everyone in the playoffs that doesn't have one yet?
darkwing-buck
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Wish there was more footage of prime Bill Russell. Dude wasn't some slow footed center, here's him jumping over a guy from the FT line.
Honestly, only stat worth talking about, if you make your team better or not.
panthapanda
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CP3.
Top PG for most of his career and can't even get out the 2nd rd (I might be wrong about that)
And yet the Bulls were a better team while Cleveland looks dysfunctional half the time
Honestly Bill Russell would fix all of the Celtics problems. So would Hondo. Give those players modern tech and shoes that aren't fucking Chucks, they ballin.
Imagine Dr. J playing in shoes that weren't pieces of shit with modern tech.
And LeBron doesn't?
LowlySmokeGuy
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Damn I didn't know Durant was such a cocky son of a bitch. That part where he's laughing at Waiters saying the upcoming Warriors game is a W is funny.
Sure, but I think I'd trust Jordan over Lebron at clutch time.
Just my opinion. Can't really go wrong with either one.
During his mini Doc thingy he was talkin so much shit playing against his friends and shit
BadAss2961
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Tell that to Chris Bosh and Kevin Love.
LeBron turns everyone into catch & shoot players, gets them open 3's. He's good at that, but it doesn't necessarily make them better players. The LeBron offense needs another star scorer and ballhandler next to him (Wade, Kyrie), while the rest just become 3 and D guys.
He typically takes the point guard out of his role on offense, and he lets the media bury his teammates whenever things start going wrong. We've all seen it numerous times... When the team is winning, LeBron is brilliant and is making everyone better. But when they're losing, suddenly everyone is dogshit and LeBron has no help. I've seen Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and various good role players get thrown under the bus to excuse LeBron.
People saying Lebron is as athletic as he ever was obviously never watched him before 2010.
Dude had strength and size, vertical ,straight line speed/quickness and lateral speed out of this world.
Today's version has strength and size, a decent vert and more agility but his quickness and end to end speed is severely diminished.
There's an argument for Bosh but Love has absolutely no game outside of catch and shoot. He is basically force fed in the post at times and cannot do anything down there.
Lebron doesn't need "scorers" next to him. CLE's best lineup by far this year is Deron, Korver, LBJ, Frye and TT. Lebron needs smart players that can penetrate the defense on P & Rs and kick out if need be, swingers to move the ball and shooters. Guys that can do a combo of those things typically work the best.
Kyrie is still a very poor decision maker and shot creator for others. If his shot isn't falling he's basically as worthless as Curry can be. Wade on the other hand is a very smart player and can make great plays even if his shot is broken.
Dude had strength and size, vertical ,straight line speed/quickness and lateral speed out of this world.
Today's version has strength and size, a decent vert and more agility but his quickness and end to end speed is severely diminished.
There's an argument for Bosh but Love has absolutely no game outside of catch and shoot. He is basically force fed in the post at times and cannot do anything down there.
Lebron doesn't need "scorers" next to him. CLE's best lineup by far this year is Deron, Korver, LBJ, Frye and TT. Lebron needs smart players that can penetrate the defense on P & Rs and kick out if need be, swingers to move the ball and shooters. Guys that can do a combo of those things typically work the best.
Kyrie is still a very poor decision maker and shot creator for others. If his shot isn't falling he's basically as worthless as Curry can be. Wade on the other hand is a very smart player and can make great plays even if his shot is broken.
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Probably right on this. Melo isn't in the playoffs either. So CP3 probably THE legacy guy that needs this in the playoffs.
Cornbread78
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Not on the Bird, Wilt, Russell thing, on the rap thingOK Rob Parker.....
Cornbread78
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OK Rob Parker.....
with much love:
Pac isn't top 5
Never was, never will be
Cornbread78
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LOLOLOLOL,
this one and had to post. Dude looks so damn happy
this one and had to post. Dude looks so damn happy
BadAss2961
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Love wasn't a catch and shoot specialist in Minnesota. He was padding on a weak team, but still, dude was putting up stupid numbers inside and out. 30/30 games. He regressed tremendously in the move to Cleveland.
Point is, LeBron turned two highly coveted team-leading stars into stretch role players who can disappear from time to time. The narrative that he makes everyone around him better is overstated.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Michael Jordan is the biggest POS to play the game.
Lionel Richie
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If you're talking sheer statistical dominance, like pure basketball potential removing intangibles and crazy drive to win and shit like that (which was the idea), there's no player that had a career like Wilt.
lol
CP3 would get such a massive boost from a ring. He's an all-time great point guard, but will never be accepted by ringz culture.
my name is ed
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if it wasn't for that story about his best friend from Philly I would have thought it was satire
Andrew Korenchkin
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He's 26.
Cornbread78
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Ninja Scooter
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Dat SAS/Skip culture is destroying sports.
Cornbread78
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Legacy? What legacy? Dude hasn't been in the NBA for long. What legacy?
Love's numbers are not really that far off from his Minnesota days. He definitely used to be more potent down low but I think that has more to do with his weight loss and him being even more undersized than anything with Lebron.
MetalFearSolid
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Stephen A Smith said that he would rather have Washington Wizards frontcourt over the Raptors's frontcourt.
EDIT: Well I can understand the case for the backcourt.
What an absolute joke of a statement
I am done. I will never post anything news worthy from him again. I apologize GAF I have in the past but no more
EDIT: Well I can understand the case for the backcourt.
What an absolute joke of a statement
I am done. I will never post anything news worthy from him again. I apologize GAF I have in the past but no more
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andthebeatgoeson
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Fuck Pat. Fuck all these guys, owners on down, who cut people mercilessly, than catch feelings when the big show leaves town. Fuck him.
If I like Lebron, it's because I like the idea of the player becoming a larger force. There's good and bad to the big 3 and the Warriors but now the players are making a bigger decision. Lebron's first stint in Cleveland was a disaster. Wasted talent while an owner and whothefuckever plays tiddlywinks or whatever with seasons.
How many fans are suffering due to terrible coaches, GMs and owners? These players sacrifice a lot and it's terrible to see their talents wasted because management has a lot of money but no talent. Fuck Riley. He's a HOF, an elite coach and did a decent job. But fuck you. For every player who got released and never got a phone call. For every expendable player. For every player who took a pay cut for the team and was never rewarded.
Fuck you Riles. Each shit and rebuild. I don't give a fuck about his personal feelings. I'm laughing at him being the jaded lover, carrying around his rings and jewelry while Lebron can't even pay attention to his song and dance.
This movement, of the player obtaining more power, is bigger than Lebron and KD. It's MJ getting shafted in his last years in Chicago. It's Barkley having to leave Philly. It's KD suffering under Scott Brooks. It's Mike Brown getting rehired in Cleveland. It's Isiah Thomas getting another chance in NY. Fuck every one of those situations.
MJ Was a better Scorer and Defender, Lebron was a better passer and rebounder.
Lebrons played in 1 less season then MJ. MJ had 6 chips, Lebron has 3. Lebron has also probably had better teammates then Lebron.
Honestly, Lebron is just above Larry Bird now. He's got a long way to go before he competes with MJ
Lebrons played in 1 less season then MJ. MJ had 6 chips, Lebron has 3. Lebron has also probably had better teammates then Lebron.
Honestly, Lebron is just above Larry Bird now. He's got a long way to go before he competes with MJ
Into the Light
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CP3 wasted his career with the Clippers. I respect Doc, but no one should be coach and GM, sorry.
detectiveconan1
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Dion Waiters is the GOAT.
Seriously thought that was an emotional roller coaster. I didn't realize he had such a tough upbringing.
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