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NBA draft pick Thon Maker likely to be 4-5 years older than he is officially listed

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Haribi

Why isn't there a Star Wars RPG? And wouldn't James Bond make for a pretty good FPS?
Thon Maker, a sudanese born Basketball player, was this years #10 NBA draft pick. He first reached the spotlights in 2012 when videos of a 7 foot 8th grader with unbelievable athletic abilities started to surface. With his combination of length and skill at the supposed age of 14 many people were certain we was destined for stardom.

But as is the case with many african born athletes, there was lots of speculation surrounding his true age for years. Many Australians claimed to know that he was older than advertised but nobody was ever able to really provide any proof to the matter. Until 4 days ago, when a random Redditor provided a snapshot of a graduation photo of a Perth High School Yearbook from 2010. Meaning that Thon Maker was actually around 17-18 years old in 2010, and not 13 according to his official date of birth (1997)

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/commen...hon/d4ksbb2?context=3&st=ipyolsrs&sh=5a322921

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People managed to track down some of the other students in the photo and they are all 23 now.

People were still sceptical and thought it could be a photoshop, but then another Bucks fan managed to track down a student from that High School who has that same yearbook and who then provided this video as evidence that it is indeed not photoshopped

https://vid.me/ncxK

And then someone also posted this 2007 yearbook photo of Thon when he was in 9th grade

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So evidently he was in the 9th grade in 2007 and in the 12th grade in 2010 despite his date of birth officially being 1997.

A timeline for the confused:

2007: Thon is in 9th grade, as can be seen in the photo
2010: Thon graduates High School in Australia, so he is 17-18 years old in 2010
2011: Thon is discovered by a shady agent called Edmund Smith who moves him to Sydney
2011: in 2011 Thon resurfaces as a 14 year old Basketball progidy from Sydney, despite as we now know graduating from High School the year before
2011-2012: He moves to the US and enrolls in the 8th grade
2016: Thon Maker gets drafted for his high potential due to his size, length and skill at the age of 19. But as we now know, he is actually 23-24 years old who played against kids 5 years younger than him for the past 4 years.

This begs the question: How the hell did nobody in the NBA and especially nobody in the Bucks organisation figure this out when a random Redditor could? Especially because there were rumours about his age for years.
Also, what will happen to him now? Will the NBA allow him to play in the NBA?
This is essentially no different than landing a job by lying about having a master degree when you actually just started college.
Does the NBA view the yearbook photos as proof? Will he have to change his official date of birth? Will it have legal consequences as he lied about his age on his visa and enrolled in the 8th grade as a grown ass man?

Reddit post with a summary
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/commen...e_probably_far_older/?st=ipyomnhr&sh=be3b05c2
 

Dali

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I guess it matters as far as his shelf life in the NBA, but it's not as bad saying a seven year old gymnast is 15 (exaggeration for those that don't know).
 

hoos30

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His handlers might take the prize for the shadiest agents ever.

My school recruited Maker for a hot second...so glad that didn't pan out.
 

Haribi

Why isn't there a Star Wars RPG? And wouldn't James Bond make for a pretty good FPS?
Didn't this same thing just happen a couple drafts ago?

It happens sometimes with players from Africa and also some other countries like Turkey.
For example it's an open secret in Turkey that Ersan Ilyasova was actually born in 1983 (or 1984 not sure) and not in 1987 like he is still officially listed as.

Oh and this also happened with Shabazz Muhammad, an american born player. He was originally listed as 1993 born but then it turned out that he was actually a year older.


I guess it matters as far as his shelf life in the NBA, but it's not as bad saying a seven year old gymnast is 15 (exaggeration for those that don't know).

Scouts were already convinced he was overrated and were shocked at him being drafted at #10 as he was not really performing well in High School the last couple years. And that's with the scouts thinking he was 19.
But being 24 and not being able to dominate High School kids is a very bad look for him. He was mainly drafted for his supposed potential only being 19, but now that we know he is already 24 he won't really have anything going for him in the NBA. He isn't skilled and he doesn't have much potential. The only thing he has going for him is his lenght but that isn't of much use on it's own. If people knew beforehand he was 24, he would've gone undrafted
 

devilhawk

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Dude went through high school twice. That takes commitment.

Pretty sure most the NBA teams knew this and it was also why him skipping college was never seen as an issue.
 
Likely is a strong word. Here's an article I linked to in the NBA thread. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/australians-dance-through-hoops-to-top-nba-draft/news-story/14c76f851812a82085483ebb75a7fc8d

He went to that school because they provide English classes for recently arrived refugee children. He may very well be a 45 year old man but I'm not convinced this is the damning evidence we're looking for.

Edit:

The link is acting up but here's a quote from the start of the article.

In English classes for recently ­arrived refugee children at Perth’s Aranmore Catholic College, Thon Maker was initially unsure of himself.

The boy who came to Australia from what is now South Sudan was told off in class a few times for slouching in his seat before teachers ­realised that he was only trying to find a way to fit his extremely long legs under his desk. The school then ordered specially made trousers for his uniform.

Maker’s teacher Kate Simeon, who helped him learn English until he left the college in 2012 to follow his basketball dream, was thrilled yesterday at the news her former student had been made the No 10 draft pick in the world’s richest basketball league.

The 216cm Maker is expected to earn more than $1 million next year playing for the Milwaukee Bucks in the NBA after an odyssey stretching between South Sudan, Uganda, Australia and Canada.

There has been much specul­ation about his age: the visa granted to him by Australia when he became a refugee states he was born in 1997.
 

Haribi

Why isn't there a Star Wars RPG? And wouldn't James Bond make for a pretty good FPS?
Likely is a strong word. Here's an article I linked to in the NBA thread. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...k=f201a24618f8c407965974ca82283722-1467058303

He went to that school because they provide English classes for recently arrived refugee children. He may very well be a 45 year old man but I'm not convinced this is the damning evidence we're looking for.

I can't open the link but I assume you are referring to the claim made by his agent? That's the same agent being accused of this con btw. and of course he will say anything to save his face. Also, do Bianca and Karine and the other kids look like refugees to you?

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Also look at that video again
https://vid.me/ncxK

It looks like an actual high school yearbook and nowhere on the page does it say that it's just the english students but it says that it's the graduation class of 2010. And because the other students don't look like refugees to me, that has to be the actual 12th grade graduation class

Also there is the photo of him in 9th grade in 2007
 
I can't open the link but I assume you are referring to the claim made by his agent? That's the same agent being accused of this con btw. and of course he will say anything to save his face. Also, do Bianca and Karine and the other kids look like refugees to you?

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Also look at that video again
https://vid.me/ncxK

It looks like an actual high school yearbook and nowhere on the page does it say that it's just the english students.

Also there is the photo of him in 9th grade in 2007

Bianca and Karine do not look like refugees but the refuge program is supposed to send kids on their way once their ready so there's a chance they put those kids in the graduation section of the yearbook. Also, the supposed 9th grade photo doesn't have a date on it.
 

jmizzal

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It happens sometimes with players from Africa and also some other countries like Turkey.
For example it's an open secret in Turkey that Ersan Ilyasova was actually born in 1983 (or 1984 not sure) and not in 1987 like he is still officially listed as.

Oh and this also happened with Shabazz Muhammad, an american born player. He was originally listed as 1993 born but then it turned out that he was actually a year older.




Scouts were already convinced he was overrated and were shocked at him being drafted at #10 as he was not really performing well in High School the last couple years. And that's with the scouts thinking he was 19.
But being 24 and not being able to dominate High School kids is a very bad look for him. He was mainly drafted for his supposed potential only being 19, but now that we know he is already 24 he won't really have anything going for him in the NBA. He isn't skilled and he doesn't have much potential. The only thing he has going for him is his lenght but that isn't of much use on it's own. If people knew beforehand he was 24, he would've gone undrafted

But at the end of the day he is still 7'1 and can still shoot and handle better then most 7'1 guys and he rated off the charts athletically at the draft combine.

If he pans out he pans out, just because he is 23 and not 19 shouldnt have anything to do with that. 18 years olds bust just like 22 year olds bust, but like I said 7'1 is 7'1.

My only issue is if he lied about his age.
 
But at the end of the day he is still 7'1 and can still shoot and handle better then most 7'1 guys and he rated off the charts athletically at the draft combine.

If he pans out he pans out, just because he is 23 and not 19 shouldnt have anything to do with that. 18 years olds bust just like 22 year olds bust, but like I said 7'1 is 7'1.

My only issue is if he lied about his age.

The big issue is that if he's 19 he still has a lot of physical development ahead of him. That isn't the case if he's 23. Not to mention how bad it would be for a 23 year old to not absolutely dominate Canadian high school students.
 
if this is true it makes those high light videos of his sort of hilarious. He was beating up on kids like 5 years younger than him. I mean, even at 23 he's still a ridiculous athlete so I'm not sure what this means for his future in the NBA.
 

jmizzal

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The big issue is that if he's 19 he still has a lot of physical development ahead of him. That isn't the case if he's 23. Not to mention how bad it would be for a 23 year old to not absolutely dominate Canadian high school students.

Yea but its not like he sucked or anything, he still avg 22 and 13 and 4 blocks, those are better numbers then a lot of guys that went to the NBA out of HS.

Yes he has lest growth to mature physically, but he still can get better as a player, one thing they said about him is how hard he works at it on wanting to get better, and also like I said he's 7'1 lol
 
Yea but its not like he sucked or anything, he still avg 22 and 13 and 4 blocks, those are better numbers then a lot of guys that went to the NBA out of HS.

Yes he has lest growth to mature physically, but he still can get better as a player, one thing they said about him is how hard he works at it on wanting to get better, and also like I said he's 7'1 lol

lots of 22 year olds could average those number against high schoolers, because at that age you have peaked physically while most high schoolers have not. It's way less impressive. That said, he was drafted because he was a raw athlete, and he's still that, he's just unlikely to get any better from a physical standpoint, so he sort of is what he is. Whether he was 19 or 23 it was sort of dumb for Milwaukee to take him that high, but I don't think they are expecting to be a super star.
 

Haribi

Why isn't there a Star Wars RPG? And wouldn't James Bond make for a pretty good FPS?
Bianca and Karine do not look like refugees but the refuge program is supposed to send kids on their way once their ready so there's a chance they put those kids in the graduation section of the yearbook. Also, the supposed 9th grade photo doesn't have a date on it.

The guy with the video also posted this photo of the same graduation photo where it specifically says year 12.
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True, the 9th grade photo doesn't have a date, but you can actually recognize Bianca from the 2010 photo in the front line right below Thon and she looks significantly younger compared to the 2010 photo.
 
The guy with the video also posted this photo of the same graduation photo where it specifically says year 12.
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True, the 9th grade photo doesn't have a date, but you can actually recognize Bianca from the 2010 photo in the front line right below Thon and she looks significantly younger compared to the 2010 photo.

I think the implication is that Bianca may actually be 23 right now but while she was graduating from high school in 2010 Thon was graduating from the English for refugees portion of the school.
 
I find it hard to believe that this guy may have misrepresented himself in the draft. Not that he didn't, but you would figure a guy like that would have been drafted by the Kings.
 
Don't teams usually heavily vet the players they draft, especially ones in the first round?

I'll wait for the teams response.

And the Bucks have a history of this, it would be amazing if it happened again lol
 
I find it hard to believe that this guy may have misrepresented himself in the draft. Not that he didn't, but you would figure a guy like that would have been drafted by the Kings.

A guy lying about his age is precisely the kind of guy the Bucks like to draft though. See Ersan Illyasova and Yi Jianlian.
 

DJwest

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Ben Bentil is a Ghanaian who was the 52nd pick of the draft chosen by the Celtics. A colleague who's 27 says that he was his senior in high school here in Ghana. Ben Bentil's listed age is 21...
 
Who cares how old he actually is.

You draft a 19 year old kid, thinking his game and body are going to continue to improve dramatically. You draft a 23 year old thinking you're getting more of a finished product. It's why freshmen averaging 11 points and 6 rebounds are going ahead of similarly-measured seniors who average 17 and 11. Scouts believe that the freshman will continue to improve, whereas the senior is who he is.
 

23qwerty

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Ben Bentil is a Ghanaian who was the 52nd pick of the draft chosen by the Celtics. A colleague who's 27 says that he was his senior in high school here in Ghana. Ben Bentil's listed age is 21...

It wouldn't exactly be unusual for a senior to be 6 years ahead of a freshman in highschool, especially if the high school spans 5 grades like many do.
 

MaxDOL

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This is similar case to Joseph Mihala of Lazio Football Club who claim to be a 17 years old.

Although this guy actually prove that he is actually 17 years old in reality.

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