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NBA Finals 2016 |OT| - The King demands seconds. The Chef delivers.

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And in the end, it will be the same response for him: "Lebron needs more help!" :p

Feels so good to be in the lean years while this GSW monstrosity burns itself out. It would be frustrating running into this buzz saw every year. This must be what other fan bases felt about our team when they were running the oughts.
 

Jarate

Banned
Irving for CP3 should be an easy trade , Kyrie is 24, CP3 is 31 , he's got what a few years left at best right (playing at all star level) , Doc would be smart to make the Cavs add more players

if they get swept something will happen

Ainge will be an idiot and trade the 3rd pick, Bradley, Sully or anyone for just Love

or Melo for Love x players

Love would be a terribly redundant player on the Celtics. Also, I doubt the Celtics have anything beyond the 3rd pick that the Cavs want

Love can probably fetch a pretty nice off ball player.
 

mjp2417

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i said it before and i say it again, match up the west 5 versus the east 5, west 6 versus east 6... etc.


east wins 0 of those 4 series.
0

Pacers almost certainly beat Memphis. I'd take Detroit over Houston as well. Portland probably beats Boston, and I'd probably take Dallas over Charlotte but that's kind of a tossup. So 2-2. The bottom half of each conference is pretty equivalent. This isn't the West of even a year ago where the the 6 and 7 seeds had 50+ wins. This is a handful of superteams and a lot of mediocrity.
 

Miracle

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Feels so good to be in the lean years while this GSW monstrosity burns itself out. It would be frustrating running into this buzz saw every year. This must be what other fan bases felt about our team when they were running the oughts.

Rebuilding at the right time. :D

My dream draft is 2nd pick Brandon Ingram, trade Lou for a mid-late first rounder and draft Thon Maker, then use 32nd pick to draft a backup guard like Gary Payton II or Dejaunte Murray.
 
Tom Haberstroh ‏@tomhaberstroh 14m14 minutes ago
Cavs have shot 37.9 percent last 4 games against the Warriors. That's with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love.

Sheesh
 
The Pistons, the East's 8th seed would probably beat the Rockets who were a shambling mess of a roster. I don't even think Rockets fans would protest this

The Pacers would probably beat the Grizzlies, since the Pacers have Paul George and the Grizzlies kind of sucked this year

I'd take Charlotte over Dallas as they have a way more complete team, but Dirk is the best player on the court, so that's a wash

The 5th seed Celtics and the 5th seed Blazers would probably have a good series, but I think the Celtics defensive guards would be able to slow down McCollum and Lillard, I think that's a bad matchup for them

Like, you're fighting a battle where your evidence is the fucking Grizzlies?

Rockets have two stars and that matters in the playoffs, let's not forget they took a game of GS, yes no curry but a no Curry GS is waaaaay better than the Pistons. Rockets in 6

i'm way to sleepy to go through the rest, but i stand by it. the west would sweep the east if you match them up 1-8.
 

Jarate

Banned
And let's also not forget that the bottom half of the east is a lot younger then the bottom half of the west.

If KD moves to the East, then the West really only has 3 dominant teams then, and even then, are you guys comfortable saying that the Clippers have any chance of winning a title
 
Rebuilding at the right time. :D

My dream draft is 2nd pick Brandon Ingram, trade Lou for a mid-late first rounder and draft Thon Maker, then use 32nd pick to draft a backup guard like Gary Payton II or Dejaunte Murray.

Jim will fuck up the no brainier pick and draft The Dragon. 🙄
You know this to be true.
 

Jarate

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Rockets have two stars and that matters in the playoffs, let's not forget they took a game of GS, yes no curry but a no Curry GS is waaaaay better than the Pistons. Rockets in 6

i'm way to sleepy to go through the rest, but i stand by it. the west would sweep the east if you match them up 1-8.

Ask any Rockets fans. Dwight Howard who was one of those stars you mentioned barely fucking tried all year, and was kind of a shit player last year. harden is the only good player on that team, and he's a sieve defensively

The Pistons have a way more complete team with a way better coach. The Rockets were absolutely fucking horrendous this year.
 

Jarate

Banned
Jim will fuck up the no brainier pick and draft The Dragon. 🙄
You know this to be true.

Bender is a super good prospect, but they wont take him because he's going to play the 4 primarily, and they already got the T-Rex playing the 4

There's literally no chance the Lakers don't take Ingram if he's available
 
Never making it at all would be worse. This shows LeBron can carry his team to the finals. He just can't win it with no real help.


This excuse again? How does he not have help?

Lebron is the Jerry West of our era. He can carry good teams to the finals East but the West top tier teams are just better. He wouldn't be able to get to 6 straight finals if he played in the west.
 
y'all can believe in the east all you want, it will stay garbage, i mean look at the under 25 players and then you see that the west got Jokic, Mudiay, Randle, DLo, KAT, Wiggins, Booker, Davis, CJ, DMC, Leonard, and Gobert.

east will take L's for another 10 years.

Ask any Rockets fans. Dwight Howard who was one of those stars you mentioned barely fucking tried all year, and was kind of a shit player last year. harden is the only good player on that team, and he's a sieve defensively

The Pistons have a way more complete team with a way better coach. The Rockets were absolutely fucking horrendous this year.

the season was over, they knew they had 0 chance and they even won a game, Cavs the by far best team will not win one. motivated rox, as bad as they would be are nowhere near Pistons bad.
 

airjoca

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Never making it at all would be worse. This shows LeBron can carry his team to the finals. He just can't win it with no real help.

Poor LeBron, never had any help. Has he done all he can dispite this apparent lack of help? Does he try to take over the game?

People keep making excuses for him. He's basically the GM at Cleveland, he got what he wanted.
 
y'all can believe in the east all you want, it will stay garbage, i mean look at the under 25 players and then you see that the west got Jokic, Mudiay, Randle, DLo, KAT, Wiggins, Booker, Davis, CJ, DMC, Leonard, and Gobert.

east will take L's for another 10 years.

And Ben Simmons will be like LeBron v2 on the Sixers
 

Jarate

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y'all can believe in the east all you want, it will stay garbage, i mean look at the under 25 players and then you see that the west got Jokic, Mudiay, Randle, DLo, KAT, Wiggins, Booker, Davis, CJ, DMC, Leonard, and Gobert.

east will take L's for another 10 years.

those players aren't currently involved in any way with the teams we are talking about

Like, what type of metric do you want me to use, like those 4 teams in the west didn't have a point differential over 1 point. The Pistons went 44-38, meanwhile the Rockets were 41-41

Like what evidence do you have to prove this point. Do you have statistics to back you up?
 

It was for a little while.
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What an embarrassing disappointment. I still ain't throwing in the towel but if they look like this at home and lose? Ooh wee.
 

mjp2417

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Rockets have two stars and that matters in the playoffs, let's not forget they took a game of GS, yes no curry but a no Curry GS is waaaaay better than the Pistons. Rockets in 6

i'm way to sleepy to go through the rest, but i stand by it. the west would sweep the east if you match them up 1-8.

Wait, you really think Dwight Howard is a star in 2016? By what metric beyond name recognition? Also, you really think Memphis would beat the Pacers? Did you see the kind of lineup they were trotting out in that Spurs series and what the Spurs did to them?
 
those players aren't currently involved in any way with the teams we are talking about

Like, what type of metric do you want me to use, like those 4 teams in the west didn't have a point differential over 1 point. The Pistons went 44-38, meanwhile the Rockets were 41-41

Rockets played 52 games in the west not just 30 like the pistons did.
 

Kickz

Member
I knew this was gonna happen to the Cavs, they aren't nearly the defense that OKC is.
What an absolute joke of a series, Silver needs to get rid of conferences so we can get an all West final every year.
 

Jarate

Banned
yeah no, Philly had a chance to be good but i have no faith in their new 'management' knowing what to do with all those assets. the future is bright in the west.



the pistons did, the pistons.

The Pistons went 44-38 which is the same record as the 5th seed in the west

the future may be bright for Western conference teams, but that doesn't matter at all when talking about the right now. The right now, every fucking stat indicates how wrong you are. Like, can you at least provide some type of statistical evidence that maybe pushes your point beyond THE CAVS LOOKED BAD FOR 2 GAMES AGAINST THE BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME

Rockets played 52 games in the west not just 30 like the pistons did.

Which literally doesnt fucking matter when you're conference features mostly shit teams. The Mavericks not only made the playoffs, they were the 6th seed! In fact, those teams had a better record against the West then they did the East. The only team that did better against the east was the Grizzlies
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
lol @ lebron not having any help.

Ever since the 2010-2011 season, he has had at least 3 of the following players on his roster at any given time:

Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Kevin Love
Kyrie Irving
JR Smith
 
No team in the East except the Cavs is better than the Blazers. Lillard and CJ would make Lowry and Derozen look like a joke.

amen.
think you all forget how bad the no.2 seed Toronto was all playoffs long. that miami series was some of the worst playoff basketball of all time.
 

Jarate

Banned
No team in the East except the Cavs is better than the Blazers. Lillard and CJ would make Lowry and Derozen look like a joke.

this is the reason why they had the same record as the 8th seed in the east

Like, literally every single statistic is against you guys, you have literally provided absolutely nothing beyond just hot take reactins. Please, all I ask is literally 1 single piece of fact based evidence to push your point
 

Miracle

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this is the reason why they had the same record as the 8th seed in the east

Like, literally every single statistic is against you guys, you have literally provided absolutely nothing beyond just hot take reactins. Please, all I ask is literally 1 single piece of fact based evidence to push your point

Lillard and CJ would make Lowry and Derozen look like a joke.

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Jarate

Banned

that's great statistics right there. Lillard is the best player, but the Raptors actually have something called a team

I know this is farfecthed

and if the Blazers were so fucking amazing, why did they go 15-15 against the East this year while going 29-23 against the west.
 
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