Pupperbabysassy
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He competed against the Lakers this year. He also went at the Heat and lost.
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NBA Finals 2017 |OT| Same As It Ever Was
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He competed against the Lakers this year. He also went at the Heat and lost.
GalacticToast
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Yes.
Because that's exactly what I am referring to. The trash ass Lakers and Heat.
Not him being hypocritical by going to the 73-9 Warriors, who booted him out of the playoffs, while calling it The hardest road.
Winning wise, Goldenstate and Cavs are the Lakers and Heat of this era. But yea that other dude is trollin
CherryWoodFuton
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I blame the Ringz!!!! culture on why KD bolted to GSW. You could avg a triple dub your whole career and idiot fans will still consider you shit if you don't have a championship. So mad players get desperate and thirsty af.
So basically it's our motherfucking fault
So basically it's our motherfucking fault
beat
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Draymond's passing and shooting is only secondary to Curry in making the offense work, and he's the linchpin of the defense. I'd say he's a superstar.
Teletraan1
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This league has always been super teams. Early it was the Celtics playing chess when the rest of the league was playing checkers. More recently players either congregate around generation defining players or they go to some legacy place that has a winning culture. Nobody wants to go anywhere that hasn't won or has bad nightlife. The Warriors as a franchise have been an absolute joke in this league until very recently. I am not ready to vilify them because they built a great team and NBA players gonna NBA play.
It is up to the league to fix the issues they have with competitive balance but are way too reactionary rather than proactive. They need to assign players a cap value rather than just allowing them to take less money. They also need to fix the waivers and buyouts near the end of the year that just allow a bunch of vets to sign on with the front runner teams for nothing. This is allowing for depth that the also ran teams just can't match which allows those teams to rest their players more leading into the playoffs while still jockeying for seeding. Even if rotations tighten up in the playoffs I feel it gives a slight competitive advantage to the top seeded teams.
It is up to the league to fix the issues they have with competitive balance but are way too reactionary rather than proactive. They need to assign players a cap value rather than just allowing them to take less money. They also need to fix the waivers and buyouts near the end of the year that just allow a bunch of vets to sign on with the front runner teams for nothing. This is allowing for depth that the also ran teams just can't match which allows those teams to rest their players more leading into the playoffs while still jockeying for seeding. Even if rotations tighten up in the playoffs I feel it gives a slight competitive advantage to the top seeded teams.
GalacticToast
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Can you be okay with super teams and still call KD out for being the bitch that he is when he goes to the 73-9 team that kicked him out of the playoffs while he pretends it's the "hardest road?"
And the media.
GalacticToast
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His dumbass wouldn't have been so hated if he hadn't yelled out "not 5, not 15, not 20!"
LyleLanley
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KD made the logically correct decision but still, fuck him for doing it.
He was the only superstar and they were a stacked team. Klay is the perfect complimentary player, Draymond is DPOY, but if your definition of a superstar is fairly narrow, like mine, Curry is(was) it. He made that offense run, there's no one else that created or forced double teams.
BassForever
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It was a plethora of things that gave LeBron scorn
-the si article calling him the chosen one
-picking mjs number
-losing in the finals
-going out like a punk to boston
-ripping off his jersey on camera after said loss
-the decision
-betraying his home
-the welcome party
-not 4/5/6 etc
-losing to the mavericks and going out like a punk
It feels like a wwe story line for a heel but it was all real
Yoshimitsu126
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Comparing an NBA MVP with Artest
Fair point and its true if he wins he doesn't win from a team he carried or was originally built for him.
But this is sports and he wants to win. And if he thinks he deserves because he already know he's a good player, I can't fault him for that just like others can criticize he won with help.
Dreams-Visions
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LOL.
All 4 have been NBA all-stars game selections. I think everyone but Draymond has been a selection twice or more.
George Claw M.D.
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You misread my post, which consisted of 2 separate paragraphs, the second of which makes no mention of either specific players or teams. And clearly says many lottery teams, not all. The only idea shared by both paragraphs is that they're both arbitrary conditions beyond a player's control that some fans hold against that player.
LockOfTheWeek
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It's still amazing to me that people took that so seriously, dude was just fucking around at a hype event.
Arrogance is the superstar athlete's worst sin.
Peter Ian Staker
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Klay could have carried a franchise as the star if he left Golden State.
Many great championship teams have had at least 2 stars in their prime who could have been the main guy in a franchise(Jordan/Pippen, Kobe/Shaq) we just never had a team with 3 before the Decision and it is kind of snowballing from there because nobody is able to win unless he is part of these super teams.
Dion Blaster
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Can you imagine being so good at a sport that switching to a certain team would theoretically "break" the league, all without taking a pay cut? That's the kind of power KD was tempted with, how many athletes would really be able to resist that?
Dreams-Visions
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And better still, Ali.
Hyperactivity
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Well, it was in the eyes of the media for a while, and Ali just outlasted all those idiots
A stacked team doesn't mean a team full of superstars. Curry is a superstar, Klay is an all-star and so was Draymond. Bench is pretty solid. That's pretty much a stacked team.
ryutaro's mama
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What if I told you that you weren't obligated to post here in the days leading up to the Finals?
We all know RiRi is God.
Shamrock7r
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I think the better move for the reputation of KD as a superstar and a top player in the league to get his just recognition as such would have been to go anywhere else aside from GS or Cleveland
That remains to be seen. People still give Lebron shit for Miami. What KD did was on another level of weak and defeatist.
I honestly think you are arguing a point that nobody is really arguing. I mean, when I said,
you agreed
so I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
-What he did was weak, but we shouldn't criticize him because it is his choice and he has the right to make that choice?
Kept the only ones with any real weight to them.
Lionel Richie
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Man hockey is fun and shit but just start the fucking Finals already.
nothing about the nba playoff schedule is consistent
it feels like they just pull days out of a hat. I don't get it.
Caddywompus
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Are those travel days? They don't have that stupid 2-3-2 format like the NBA had when Bron let Dirk take a ring from him.
Well I can see them shuffling it around during the first round when there are so many teams.
But other than that they should fix it to either every second and have one extra day break in the middle of the series. Messes up player's rhythm. Warriors played terrible Game 1 vs Spurs when it was a lunch time game as opposed to playing at night.
LyleLanley
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Just try and stop me.
Nah, we can criticism him all we want. I'm not denying any of the criticisms because i understand them from a fan perspective. I've always said that. But that's only half of it. I try to avoid criticism without correction. So if we believe him going to golden state was a bitch ass move then, realistically, where was he suppose to go considering he made the best decision for his career (because why wouldn't he?) Simply saying, he could have gone anywhere else doesn't mean anything If there's no other teams that have the prospects and potential that golden state does because than "anywhere else" is clearly sub optimal. We're saying the man should've handicapped his career so he doesn't lose any rep with the fans.
It's like if he were at your company christmas party and you chat up the CEO and the next week you get offered a promotion that's a few levels higher than where you're at and you know this will do wonders for your career but if you take it all you're current coworkers will hate you and think you're a brown noser. You realistically gonna turn that down simply because some people don't agree with it?
Just be thankful there are no shitty afternoon games. Nothing like a West coast team effectively having to play a playoff game at 9 am.
Stabby McSter
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i always find it weird that the all-star selections are a barometer of greatness
wouldn't it be more apt to use all-nba or something
While I agree to you, all-star selection was a pretty great merit for a player's greatness since superstars are basically selected, either as a starter (by fans) or as a sub. Just about every all-star player in the past end up as HoFers or future HoF candidates. It just watered down in value when big guys got diluted in terms of talent and fans do dumb stuff like voting for Zaza.
Absolutely
LyleLanley
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Since fans have a vote in all-star selections it should be meaningless.
BadAss2961
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It's okay to call KD a bitch as long as LeBron is one too.
Bron paved the way for moves like this to happen.
I hope I didn't jinx the Cavs by moving back to Cleveland (it's only temporary). When I was living in Florida, we won (and I missed the whole damn celebration)
But anyway, let's go! I'm not exactly expecting us to win (because repeating is extremely difficult), but I'm just glad we're back in the finals.
But anyway, let's go! I'm not exactly expecting us to win (because repeating is extremely difficult), but I'm just glad we're back in the finals.
Shamrock7r
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You are trying to equate the nature of sports to an office job. your example of getting a promotion makes zero sense in the context of what we are talking about in Durant.
GalacticToast
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They​ we're both bitch moves. But bron, as far as I know, didn't lie to himself saying it was the hardest road.
Why not also call KG, Allen, and Pierce a "bitch" for teaming up?
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