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[DMczaf]

Lets start if off with a good ol T-Mac to Pacers rumor!

http://www.indystar.com/articles/9/155214-4169-036.html

"We could make it work, absolutely," Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said Tuesday. "I have spoken to somebody in their organization, and I sensed there was interest there. What they're telling me is, there's a good chance he's going to be traded. So, yeah, a player like that out there, we're definitely going to be interested."

How to do it?

McGrady's salary cap number is around $14.5 million. The Pacers would have to send Orlando players whose combined salaries fall within 15 percent of that number. So it's like this: Start with Al Harrington ($6.3 million), who will get traded in the media no fewer than 50 times this summer. Then it's an issue of deciding who that second player might be.

Jonathan Bender ($6.5 million)? That would be my preference, but it might not be Orlando's choice.

Ron Artest ($6.2 million)? That would be hard to swallow, but for McGrady, it's a deal I'd make, however grudgingly.

It's a price worth paying to have the Shaq-and-Kobe of the East.

(And no, I don't think the Magic would happily take Austin Croshere and his big contract off Walsh's hands. If we're going to talk about trades, let's talk about ones that might work for both teams.)

"Once everybody agrees on the principals, our two guys for their one, you can make it work," Walsh said. "It wouldn't be that hard."

For his part, McGrady, who is friends with Jermaine O'Neal, has mentioned Indiana as one of the teams he'd be willing to join as part of a sign-and-trade deal. The only caveat for the Pacers: Making sure McGrady would be willing to sign a long-term deal to remain here. Indiana isn't going to mortgage its future for a one-year rental.

Now, keep in mind, you can throw just about anybody's name out there -- George Mikan, for instance -- and Walsh will say, "Sure, it's always worth following up with a phone call." And rumors, big ones, are born.

But this is not one of those.

The Pacers are interested in McGrady, and should be interested in McGrady. And Walsh made it clear Tuesday, he and Larry Bird are willing to move anybody except O'Neal if it means making a deal that catapults them past Detroit.

"Is anybody untouchable?" Walsh was asked.

"No," he said. "No one. Except Jermaine. He's our franchise player."

Not Artest?

"No," Walsh said.

Not Bender?

"No."

 

[Matrix]

He's a Rocket....mark these words.

You will become a Rocket fan and join Mig and I in our journey for the 3rd championship.

 

[Cloudy]

Trade Shaq (I know it's almost impossible but....) and surround Kobe with other athletes or Kobe2Clippers!!!


PS: Kobe better not guarantee the verdict lol

 

[DMczaf]

PS: Kobe better not guarantee the verdict lol

Unless he guarantees a guilty verdict...

 

[Matrix]

'I'm guilty bitchs and I might go for another"

 

[Guzim]

Luol Deng will go to the Bulls.

 

[rc213]

I heard a rumor that Jordan is coming to the Lakers to help get Phil his 10th ring!

 

[Guzim]

I heard a rumor that Jordan is coming to the Lakers to help get Phil his 10th ring!

 

[bishoptl]

If Jordan AND Reeves come out of retirement to join the Lakers, Kobe ain't going NOWHERE. Trade Shaq and pay homage to the new Triforce!

MARIAH CAREY SEZ, "ALL HAIL"!

 

[Bowser]

Some thoughts for the Bobcats:

It's well known that the Suns would pursue Kobe is he opts out of his contract. However, they will be about $6 mil short. Coincidentally, Jahidi White is due $6.2 mil this coming year and he has been left unprotected in the expansion draft. I'm thinking that the Bobcats can persuade the Suns to give up their #7 pick in this year's draft for taking Jahidi White's contract off their books, allowing them enough money to make a run at Kobe. The Suns know they have a legitimate chance at landing Kobe because they already have a few good people (Amare Stoudemire comes to my mind) and Kobe could help the Suns become a playoff contender again.

Also, the Wizards have made it known that they are not enamored with anyone in the draft save for Emeka Okafor and Dwight Howard, who will most likely both be gone by the #5 pick. The Bobcats would do well to get the Wizards to give up their #5 pick in this year's draft for taking Christian Laettner's 6.2 mil contract or Jerry Stackhouse's 7 mil contract off the books. If I'm not mistaken, none of these contracts will count against the cap until the first day of the season, and the Bobcats (I believe) could waive Laettner or Stackhouse and end up with basically a free pick.

With a combination of the #4 and #5/#7 pick, we could either entice the Magic into giving us their #1 pick for the two picks and maybe a veteran, or we could just keep the two picks and draft any combination of these players:

Shaun Livingston, Luol Deng, Andre Iguodala, Josh Childress and possibly Dwight Howard (Some mock drafts have him slipping to #4).

Along with some young talent and inexpensive veterans, we could have a very good Year One team on the floor come the 2004-2005 NBA season.

 

[Guzim]

Jahidi White

Did anyone else read this as Jaleel White?

 

[rc213]

What's up with the Kings. I heard Bobby Jackson is being hated on by most of the team and staff for not attempting to play at all. Webber/Christie are feuding with Peja/Divac and Divac is talking about ending his career in L.A?!?!?!?! How about Bobby Jackson to the Lakers as the starting P.G with D. Fish as a backup.

 

[Bat]

I was watching a rerun of the McDonalds High School Slame Dunk Contest and Bryant Reeves was a judge. Holy shit, he now must weigh 400 pounds. He also cannot speak in the slightest.

 

[-Fightnfire-]

It's a price worth paying to have the Shaq-and-Kobe of the East.

Exactly who are you refering to as the Shaq and Kobe of the east ?? McGrady and ??

 

[Bowser]

Exactly who are you refering to as the Shaq and Kobe of the east ?? McGrady and ??

T-Mac and J O'Neal

 

[Desperado]

He's a Rocket....mark these words.

You will become a Rocket fan and join Mig and I in our journey for the 3rd championship.

lol, that pic makes me smile. =)

On the other hand, losing Stevie makes me frown. =(

 

[-Fightnfire-]

Hmmm thats what I thought. I have to disagree, I dont think Mac and Oneal compare to shaq and Kobe. I like the Pacers but neither of them have proved any ability other than regular season. I think even if the Pacers had TMAC the Pistons still would have beat them.

 

[DMczaf]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...40616/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bkn_nba_finals_ratings_1

NEW YORK - Detroit's title-clinching win over the Los Angeles Lakers (news) on Tuesday night was the second-highest rated NBA Finals (news - web sites) game since 1998, and the series was the highest-rated since 2001.

ABC's broadcast of Detroit's 100-87 win got a 13.8 rating with a 23 share. That's 123 percent higher than Game 5 between San Antonio and New Jersey (6.2), and 23 percent better than Game 5 between the Lakers and Philadelphia in 2001 (11.2).

The only NBA Finals game since 1998 that got a higher rating was Game 6 between Indiana and Los Angeles (14.7) in 2000.

The average rating for the five games was an 11.5 with a 20, 77 percent higher than last year (6.5) and 13 percent better than 2002 (10.2).

The rating is the percentage of all homes with TVs, whether or not they are in use. Share is the percentage of homes with TVs in use. Each rating point represents about 1.08 million households.

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WTF, Pistons Ball bringing in the ratings?!

 

[Desperado]

More like people tuned in to see the Lakers' demise.

 

[Miguel]

I'm not so sure about the TMac for Francis/???? deal anymore. Sure, I'd love to have TMac, but I don't know if giving up Francis + (Cato/Mobley/Taylor) would be worth it.

I still think this team can win with Francis/Yao/Mobley. I'd rather try to sign McDyess or try to trade for a PF from a team who's trying to unload cap space (Knicks have any PF? Gundy loves them anyway, may as well. We have that 8 mil dollar trade exception. We could take on 8 mil more than we give up.) Anyway....uh, yeah GO ROCKETS whoever you have next year.

 

[Matrix]

Mig,you're starting to sound like the players :\ this core unit we have now besides Yao has been together far too long and has done jack shit.I'm a die hard Rocket fan,but if you can get a talent like Tmac for a Francis/Cato combo or whatever...you jump on it.

Francis is a douche despite his strong playoff showing,then again he was playing that old bum Payton so that's most likely why he looked so good.

 

[DMczaf]

Will Magic move McGrady?

We're still waiting to hear the outcome of a meeting scheduled this week between Magic owner Rich DeVos and Tracy McGrady. Apparently, though, Magic GM John Weisbrod already has made up his mind.

Multiple NBA sources told Insider on Wednesday that a handful of teams have had discussions with Weisbrod about trading for McGrady and he's open to dealing his superstar.

Weisbrod asked McGrady last week to tell the organization whether he plans to opt out of his contract next summer. If McGrady was dead set on leaving, the Magic would attempt to trade him in an effort to get some value back. If McGrady can live with the Magic's rebuilding plan, they'd go out of their way to rebuild quickly and get the team back into playoff contention.


The Magic can't afford to lose Tracy McGrady without getting some value in return.
While McGrady claims he's going into the meeting with DeVos with an "open mind," sources throughout the league claim McGrady would prefer to be traded to a contender.

"Of course, I'll meet with Mr. DeVos. Why wouldn't I?" McGrady told the Orlando Sentinel on Wednesday. "We'll talk. We'll definitely sit down. I'll let him know where I stand, and I'm sure he'll try to sell me on his belief that things will be better here. We'll put everything on the table. ... What they can and can't do [to improve the team]. I'll get some things off my chest. But at the end of the day, I have to do what's best for me."

"I've been rebuilding here for four years. I'm definitely not trying to rebuild."

The Magic will bring in Emeka Okafor and Dwight Howard for pre-draft workouts Friday and Saturday in a last-ditch effort to convince McGrady that one of the two top prospects could provide immediate help.

Grant Hill also has been involved, telling McGrady his ankle is as strong as it's been since he broke it in 2000 and he's ready to go for next season.

Apparently, the Magic already believe it won't be enough. Over the past week, trade talk has intensified. The Magic don't want to move T-Mac, but they're not going to take any chances. Losing him for nothing would be devastating.

Where might he go? The rumors were flying fast and furious on Wednesday. Among the possibilities we're hearing:

Phoenix Suns: The Suns have been angling to land Kobe Bryant this summer, but they may have an easier, even more attractive option with McGrady. The word around the league is the Suns are willing to part with Shawn Marion, Casey Jacobsen, the rights to Milos Vujanic and the No. 7 pick in the draft for McGrady. But those same sources say the Magic want the Suns to substitute Joe Johnson for Jacobsen. That could be a sticking point for the Suns, who absolutely want to keep Johnson.

Shawn Marion
Small Forward
Phoenix Suns
Profile


2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
79 19.0 9.3 2.7 .440 .851



This deal would be a slam dunk for the Suns, because it would leave them still roughly $9 million under the cap. They could get to $15 million under if they can move Jahidi White to the Bobcats in the expansion draft. The Suns then could use their cap space to make a run at a point guard like Steve Nash or a big guy like Mehmet Okur and/or Vlade Divac.

It also makes some sense for the Magic. Marion is capable of being an all-star in the East. The Magic could use their No. 1 pick on a big guy like Okafor or Howard, then turn around and use the No. 7 pick on a point guard like Devin Harris, Ben Gordon or Shaun Livingston. A core of Marion, Jacobsen, the two lottery picks and several Magic role players would be a great start at rebuilding the Magic.

Indiana Pacers: Team president Donnie Walsh said Tuesday he's been actively pursuing McGrady. "We could make it work, absolutely," Walsh told the Indianapolis Star. "I have spoken to somebody in their organization, and I sensed there was interest there. What they're telling me is, there's a good chance he's going to be traded. So, yeah, a player like that out there, we're definitely going to be interested."

Al Harrington
Small Forward
Indiana Pacers
Profile


2003-2004 SEASON STATISTICS
GM PPG RPG APG FG% FT%
79 13.3 6.4 1.7 .463 .734



The Magic want Jermaine O'Neal, but that isn't going to happen. Instead, they'd have to settle for a combination of Al Harrington and either Ron Artest or Jonathan Bender. If that's the way the Magic decide to go, they'd have to wait until June 30. That's the day both Artest and Bender lose their base-year compensation status, making them available to trade.

The deal's obviously a slam dunk for the Pacers -- though it's a little harder to swallow if they have to include Artest. Still, having a chance to land a superstar like McGrady comes along only once or twice a decade. The combo of T-Mac and O'Neal would likely shift the balance of power in the East again.

The move also makes some sense from Orlando's perspective. Artest would give them a bona fide all-star in return for McGrady. Harrington is a solid option at the three or the four. They also wouldn't be breaking the bank for either star, as both are signed to reasonable deals.

Los Angeles Clippers: The Clippers also are rumored to be in the mix. They could offer a package of Corey Maggette, the No. 2 pick, Marko Jaric and Melvin Ely in return for McGrady. Because the Clippers are under the salary cap, they can absorb the difference in salaries.

This could be a very attractive option for the Magic. Having both the No. 1 and No. 2 picks allows Orlando to select both Okafor and Howard. Or, they could trade the No. 2 to a team like Charlotte or Atlanta and pocket the No. 4 or the No. 6 and No. 17 picks. They could use the lottery pick on a point guard and the No. 17 pick on one of the young Euros.

Even with McGrady on the books, the Clippers still would have enough cap room to make a run at a top free agent this summer. With a combo of Elton Brand and T-Mac anchoring the team, the Clips likely could re-sign Quentin Richardson and make a run at a point guard like Steve Nash or Jamal Crawford in free agency.

Memphis Grizzlies: The Grizzlies also will be active in pursuing Kobe this summer, though they lack cap space and thus would have to pull off a sign-and-trade with L.A. That's not likely, because the last thing Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak wants to do is trade Kobe to Jerry West, Kupchak's mentor. Given that, McGrady might be a more realistic target.

The Grizzlies are loaded with young talent and could put together a nice package of Pau Gasol, James Posey, Shane Battier and Earl Watson for T-Mac. If the Magic then added a player like Okafor in the draft, they could sport an all-new starting five next year.

The Grizzlies would have to give up a lot of their depth to make that trade happen, however, and they would be very reluctant to pull the trigger if it meant giving up Gasol.

"If the Grizzlies did that," one source told Insider, "how much different would they be than Orlando? Depth is the reason the Grizzlies won 50 games. Without it, they're one injury away from heading back to the lottery."

Houston Rockets: There also has been talk throughout the league for weeks about a trade of Steve Francis and Bostjan Nachbar for T-Mac. Jeff Van Gundy wants a real point guard running the show and would prefer his No. 1 scoring option not also be the point guard. The Magic have a real need at the point, though it's tough to see how adding just Francis changes Orlando's fortunes next year.

Miami Heat: Miami has been dangling Caron Butler around the league as trade bait to help them get either Brian Grant or Eddie Jones off the books. The Heat would prefer to move Jones over Grant, but in this case, the Magic would have more interest in a Butler/Grant deal. That may be enough to scare off the Heat. But then again, a combo of Lamar Odom, Dwyane Wade and T-Mac could be devastating.

Rumor Central

Magic appear ready to trade McGrady

WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY

Tracy McGrady
Magic

Suns
Pacers
Clippers
Grizzlies
Rockets

Jun. 17 - Multiple NBA sources told Insider on Wednesday that they've had discussions with Magic GM John Weisbrod about trading for McGrady and that he's open to a trade. Weisbrod asked McGrady last week to tell the organization whether he planned to opt out of his contract next summer.
If McGrady was dead set on leaving, the Magic would attempt to trade him in an effort to get some value back in return. If McGrady could live with the Magic's rebuilding plan, they'd go out of their way to rebuild quickly in an effort to put the Magic back into playoff contention.

While McGrady claims that he's going into the meeting with DeVos with an "open mind", sources throughout the league are claiming that McGrady prefers to be moved to a contender. Where might he go? The Suns, Pacers, Clippers, Grizzlies, Rockets and Heat all appear to be interested in McGrady.

 

[DMczaf]

Uh oh

Dont tell Mig this...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/203597p-175655c.html

Former Houston Rockets coach Rudy Tomjanovich is emerging as a top candidate to replace Phil Jackson as Lakers coach if Jackson does not return, according to a source familiar with the Lakers' thinking.

Tomjanovich, who resigned as coach 13 months ago after being diagnosed with bladder cancer, owns a lifetime 503-397 record and coached Houston to back-to-back NBA titles in 1994 and 1995. He is regarded as a superb offensive coach who is well-liked by players and one who has first-hand experience relating to superstars, having coached Hakeem Olajuwon, Clyde Drexler, Charles Barkley and Scottie Pippen.

The Lakers believe Tomjanovich's personality would serve as a calming influence for Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant, teammates who have feuded for years. Bryant will opt out of his contract on July1 but is likely to re-sign with the Lakers.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

screw that drunk bastard. BRING BACK RILEY!

 

[Cloudy]

With Malone Gone, Shaq--Not Kobe--Should Be Next

Thursday, June 17, 2004

By Tom Alexander


LOS ANGELES - Remember 14 days ago, when it used to be awesome to be a Laker?


After a very painful defeat to the Detroit Pistons, the dismantling of the Los Angeles Lakers has begun. Karl Malone has opted for free agency, Phil Jackson is likely going to leave the team, Kobe Bryant has some things to attend to, and Shaquille O'Neal is generally unhappy, as usual. The Lakers need to trade Shaq, soon, and move on.


In my opinion, the Lakers have an amazing opportunity right now, a chance to rebuild a team nearly from scratch and still be in contention for the NBA title next year. And the next step toward that is to get rid of Shaq.


That's right, you read that correctly. Trade Shaquille O'Neal. There's maybe five teams that would be interested in him and be able to bring him into their cities. It's been said that you can't win without Shaq, and while that may be true, the Lakers have not really been winning with Shaq over the past two years. I believe that it is Kobe, not Shaq, who will be the key to any future titles for the team, and now is the time to pledge allegiance to him.


Of course, if Kobe ends up in prison, then trading Shaq will be the all-time GM blunder. But if he doesn't, and you can trade Shaq and get some solid players in return, then it could be an enormous step in the right direction. Shaq is a great player with three or four good years left, but he's not Kobe Bryant. Bryant, who is in his mid-20s, is probably the best all-around player in the league right now. If things had worked out differently (say, if the Lakers would have won the series) Bryant would be considered one of the greatest players of all time. People would be comparing him to Michael Jordan left and right.


The Pistons have shown that youth and energy win championships in the NBA, and Bryant has both in spades. His intangible is that he's been in the league for so long and that he's won so many games that he has the experience of only a handful of NBA players (how many guys have played in four finals series?) at the age of 26. It's unparalleled in the history of the league. It's an enormous advantage.


I don't think you'll need much beyond Kobe to win an NBA title in the coming years. The NBA has parity, and it's a two-star setup, or a three-star setup, that is taking teams to the final. So the Lakers need to go out and get another all-star or two, and put them on the floor with Kobe, but make it clear once and for all that it's Kobe's team.


Shaq cannot make a free throw, and while that does not kill the Lakers in that many games, it doesn't help them either. It doesn't help that if he gets into foul trouble he becomes useless, and it doesn't help that he can't really rebound all that well considering he's the biggest guy in the league. Kobe, meanwhile, is a unique talent with more opportunity than anyone else in basketball. He deserves a chance to shine on his own, and the Lakers should cash in on Shaq before it's too late.

Someone in the media who has a fucking clue...

 

[DMczaf]

Someone in the media who has a fucking clue...

Ok we get it already. When ever someone in the media agrees with YOU, they have a "fucking clue". We got it, ok?

 

[Cloudy]

But the Lakers seem to agree too. If you're gonna lose only one of them, it's the OLDER, DECLINING player......

 

[bionic77]

The Laker should convince Shaq to restructure. There are only two players in the league a sane person would trade Shaq for: Duncan or Garnett. Something tells me that those trades are not going to happen though. Though it would be sick to see Kobe and Kevin play together, MOST ATHLETIC TEAM IN HISTORY!!!!

 

[Ninja Scooter]

they already asked Shaq to restructure, or sign an extension that would make it easier on the cap (somewhere around $18 million a season) and Shaq took it as an insult. He wants his $35 million per extension.

 

[bionic77]

they already asked Shaq to restructure, or sign an extension that would make it easier on the cap (somewhere around $18 million a season) and Shaq took it as an insult. He wants his $35 million per extension.

If Shaq is really that unreasonable then I might be more open to Konex's terrible idea of trading Shaq. He really underestimates what he means to the team even while many analysts overestimate his worth. Still, big men are the hardest guys to find in today's NBA and Shaq is one of the best, hope he comes to his fucking senses and does what is best for the team.

 

[Cloudy]

Would the Pacers be stupid enough to accept the "Shaq for JO+Artest deal" that's been rumored though? And why would anyone want Artest on their team after the shit he pulled in game 6? This offseason will be even wilder than the last...

 

[Ninja Scooter]

If Shaq is really that unreasonable then I might be more open to Konex's terrible idea of trading Shaq. He really underestimates what he means to the team even while many analysts overestimate his worth. Still, big men are the hardest guys to find in today's NBA and Shaq is one of the best, hope he comes to his fucking senses and does what is best for the team.

its true, and its an insult to guys like KG (who is in his PRIME and restructured to help the team avoid the luxery tax) and Karl and Gary, who turned down huge paydays to join LA. It just goes to show how insecure Shaq is. You think he needs the money? He just thinks that his legacy hinges on being the highest paid player in the game.

 

[Cloudy]

Shaq on Phil - "If he goes, I'm gone"

Just heard the sound clip on the Loose Cannons. Jackson is meeting with Mitch today and Buss tomorrow.

The shit has hit the fan! lol

 

[Cloudy]

If I hear "Deeeeetroooit Baaasketbaaaall" one more time, I'm gonna break something :\

 

[DMczaf]

If I hear "Deeeeetroooit Baaasketbaaaall" one more time, I'm gonna break something :\

LOL!! I love it!

 

[bionic77]

LOL!! I love it!

DM are you just a TMac fan or a fan of Orlando? If you are just a fan of T-Mac you are just as bad as Konex! Pick and team and stick with it, that is the one and only rule of fandom.

 

[DMczaf]

DM are you just a TMac fan or a fan of Orlando? If you are just a fan of T-Mac you are just as bad as Konex! Pick and team and stick with it, that is the one and only rule of fandom.

Im a Bulls fan, and a fan of T-Mac

Im not a Konex type fan who only follows one player and acts like a fan of a certain team until he leaves that team

 

[bionic77]

Im a Bulls fan, and a fan of T-Mac

Im not a Konex type fan who only follows one player and acts like a fan of a certain team until he leaves that team

Au Contraire, now that I know that you are a wannabe Orlando fan who just follows T-Mac I deem that you are EXACTLY LIKE KONEX!!!!

DMczaf = Konex > Jordan

 

[Cloudy]

I'm a Clippers, Grizzlies and Sonics fan....


















Or maybe I'm just a fan of Q, Maggs, J-Will and Ray

 

[Incognito]

Bullshit, DM, besides Mig here, you're the biggest bandwagon fan here. It's appaling. Your knowledge of basketball is derived only from the captions of all the pictures you post.

 

[bionic77]

I am starting to get a deeper understanding of you two. DM will just latch onto the nuts of whoever has the highest scoring average and hold on for dear life and Konex will latch onto flashy and athletic guards.

 

[Incognito]

I am starting to get a deeper understanding of you two. DM will just latch onto the nuts of whoever has the highest scoring average and hold on for dear life and Konex will latch onto flashy and athletic guards.

Bingo. They're all about flash. What team all of the sudden was DM's favorite in the NFL two years ago? Oh, that's right, the Buccaneers.

 

[DMczaf]

Au Contraire, now that I know that you are a wannabe Orlando fan who just follows T-Mac I deem that you are EXACTLY LIKE KONEX!!!!

DMczaf = Konex > Jordan

Nooooooooooooooo

You try supporting the Bulls on an internet forum when you see these guys on the court

When you should be seeing these guys on the court!

"Sorry DMczaf, I just don't see 2 All-Star players leading the Bulls back to the playoffs"

 

[DMczaf]

Bullshit, DM, besides Mig here, you're the biggest bandwagon fan here. It's appaling. Your knowledge of basketball is derived only from the captions of all the pictures you post.

Ok Lonestar, Ill ask the question ONE more time. Which TEAM did I bandwagon?

If you try to say Bucs, I've been a fan for a several years now (mostly because of Future Trunks)

 

[Cloudy]

and Konex will latch onto flashy and athletic guards.

That's the kind of players I enjoying watching the most. Plus my game is like that except my left is not as strong as my right and I can't dunk a regulation rim

Big men = BORING...

 

[bionic77]

LOL, a true fan would just make the most insane comments of all time and somehow justify their team dominating the next year. Weaksauce DM, weaksauce.

 

[Incognito]

Ok Lonestar, Ill ask the question ONE more time. Which TEAM did I bandwagon?

If you try to say Bucs, I've been a fan for a several years now (mostly because of Future Trunks)

You latch onto any team that's on their way to winning the championship. I'm not the only person who knows this, nor am I the only person to bring this fact up. Btw, DM, I'm not Lonestar. Quit comparing me to that tool.

 

[DMczaf]

You latch onto any team that's on their way to winning the championship. I'm not the only person who knows this, nor am I the only person to bring this fact up. Btw, DM, I'm not Lonestar. Quit comparing me to that tool.

And you still dont answer the damn question Lonestar. Unbelievable.

LOL, a true fan would just make the most insane comments of all time and somehow justify their team dominating the next year. Weaksauce DM, weaksauce.

I could try, but I just cant anymore. I did it after Krause broke up the dynasty and my friends called me psycho, but after Krause traded Brand and Artest...it broke my spirit

 

[Ristamar]

WTF, Pistons Ball bringing in the ratings?!

This is the first year I've watched every game of the finals. Hell, this is the first year I've watched more than a full quarter of the finals without getting bored and doing something else.

 

[bishoptl]

Chandler: "The Force is too strong! Nooooooo!"

"Yes."