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[Shinobi]

None of those are great outside shooters. We could have used Reggie Miller or hell even JJ Redick from Duke.

Yeah, cause Reggie Miller sure helped the team out in 2002.

Last year's qualifying team was a sizzling outside shooting team. In terms of their three point shooting, VC shot 45% (he was shooting 55% for a while before cooling down at the end), Bibby shot 57%, AI shot 54% (no lie), Ray Allen shot 55%, and T-Mac shot 42%. These figures are all quite a bit over their career averages. With a point guard like Kidd who can rebound and start the fast break, guys like AI and T-Mac can sprint down and spread the floor, leaving open shots for a VC or Ray Allen. It was a really solid team, and probably the most fun team to watch since the '92 squad. It's a shame that full squad isn't together this year.

 

[DJ_Tet]

Reggie Miller wouldn't have hurt, but he may be too damn old to get free against competition. Ray Allen would have been an even better fit. What was his excuse?

 

[Subitai]

Our guys can outskill most teams, but games like today (and Pistons over Lakers) show that a good team that shares the ball and hits the open shots wins more often than not. Right now we've got no outside shooters.

Yeah, without a fast break game and good ball handling, the US looks very easy to beat if you have good shooting and zone defense.

 

[Shinobi]

Reggie Miller wouldn't have hurt, but he may be too damn old to get free against competition. Ray Allen would have been an even better fit. What was his excuse?

Marriage.

BTW, after seeing some highlights I can see why the US got spanked...the refs actually called traveling! Lebron got three calls for it alone, including one on a partial breakaway dunk. That's gonna be a tough adjustment when you're used to taking like five strides before bouncing a ball.

 

[RobotChant]

Hawks to send Terry, Henderson to Dallas

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1851245

The Dallas Mavericks are expected to complete a trade Wednesday that will send Antoine Walker and guard Tony Delk to the Atlanta Hawks for guard Jason Terry and forward Alan Henderson, league sources have told ESPN.com.

 

[DMczaf]

(Reuters) - A Florida waitress who claims that Kobe Bryant groped her at the home of his former Los Angeles Lakers teammate, Shaquille O'Neal, could be called as a witness in his upcoming rape trial, a published report said on Tuesday. Prosecutors plan to subpoena the 22-year-old woman -- and possibly O'Neal -- to testify at Bryant's rape trial in August, Sports Illustrated magazine reported on its Web site.

LOL!!!!

 

[Incognito]

I'm ashamed to be a fan of the NBA and Team USA today. What an embarrassing showing by our "stars." I've already written an email to the NBA explaining and detailing my frustrations with the way they handle the Olympics. There needs to be reform, and it the team should be a, get this, TEAM.

1. Choose players 1-2 years before Olympics
2. Set up practice times for team long before the actual events. Two weeks of practice before the Olympics results in shitty, embarrassing showings.
3. Scrubs need not apply. Okafor? Stoutemire? Marbury? I know there's more on the current team, but those are the three that stick out. Ridiculous.
4. Somehow get it into the stubborn, rich, spoiled REALLY TALENTED players that it is an HONOR to play for your country. Don't give me no "I'm scared of the TERRROSISTS!" garbage, either.
5. Start enforcing the rules in the NBA. How many times was travelling called today? 10, 12? Utterly ridiculous. Yes, Allen Iverson, those 63 steps you take before dribbling the ball and crossing over is, indeed, illegal.

I'm fumed. Losing to Italy by 17 points. Oh well, at least there was some good news today: the Toronto Raptors will appear on television a whole 3 times. Seems like the NBA is finally off their Vince Carter fetish and have realized he's an injury prone, overpaid, spoiled crybaby bitch.

Go Sonics.

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

That waitress' story is completely implausible! Shaq and Kobe would never hang out with each other. Anybody knows that.

Anyway, the prosecution's case is wrecked. They said so themselves in the transcripts. Leaking stories like this just shows how desparate they are.

 

[bionic77]

That waitress' story is completely implausible! Shaq and Kobe would never hang out with each other. Anybody knows that.

Anyway, the prosecution's case is wrecked. They said so themselves in the transcripts. Leaking stories like this just shows how desparate they are.

True, what killed the case is when they admitted in the sexual history. When they show the girl had sex with some dude right after Kobe and before her rape exam that is the end of the case. Still, Shaq as a witness is courttv's wet dream.

Btw, the prosecution has leaked a lot of crap before this and so far all of it turned out to be untrue. The girl in Portland, the 'unbelievable' injuries to the girl, etc. Still, this might be true and it can't be good for the Kobster.

I think if I was in his position I would puss out and a plea to the least offense, wouldn't want to take a chance even if I was innocent.

 

[Shinobi]

(Reuters) - A Florida waitress who claims that Kobe Bryant groped her at the home of his former Los Angeles Lakers teammate, Shaquille O'Neal, could be called as a witness in his upcoming rape trial, a published report said on Tuesday. Prosecutors plan to subpoena the 22-year-old woman -- and possibly O'Neal -- to testify at Bryant's rape trial in August, Sports Illustrated magazine reported on its Web site.

LOL!!!!

Oh well, at least there was some good news today: the Toronto Raptors will appear on television a whole 3 times. Seems like the NBA is finally off their Vince Carter fetish and have realized he's an injury prone, overpaid, spoiled crybaby bitch.

Go Sonics.

To the lottery, where they usually reside. Too bad for you VC's gonna be the leading vote getter AGAIN, forcing his ass onto national TV whether you haters want to see him or not. BITCH.

Of course he might be representing a different team this year, but still...

 

[Fifty]

Hopefully that douche Rick Carlisle isn't in charge of Vince's all star team this year.

 

[Shinobi]

Haha, yeah...fuck Carlisle. Hopefully the Pistons are #1 by the all star break, as Larry is a big Vince fan (plus they're UNC alum...Tarheels bitch).

 

[Incognito]

Please, ShiDouche. Just because fans in Toronto have nothing better to do during their cold, boring, dull winters than to stuff ballots for VC doesn't mean he's actually deserving of that spot.

Unlike Ray Allen, a coaches choice after only playing 25 games, VC NEEDS the fans. He's all hype, no substance. And he won't be the leading vote getter this year, either.

 

[Bowser]

Hopefully the Pistons are #1 by the all star break, as Larry is a big Vince fan (plus they're UNC alum...Tarheels bitch).

 

[Shinobi]

Please, ShiDouche. Just because fans in Toronto have nothing better to do during their cold, boring, dull winters than to stuff ballots for VC doesn't mean he's actually deserving of that spot.

Unlike Ray Allen, a coaches choice after only playing 25 games, VC NEEDS the fans. He's all hype, no substance. And he won't be the leading vote getter this year, either.

ShiDouche??? That the best you can do HalfPastGay? I know you think VC gets the ballot box stuffed, but it simply isn't the case. He's huge in China, and that's where he gets his advantage. That and all but like four of the forwards in the east suck camel balls.

And why are you propping up Ray Allen for? He's gone the moment Seattle finds a trading partner for him. You never gave a shit about him before he joined the team, so it shouldn't be too hard to just drop his ass from now. Go dangle off Collision's balls instead.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

HAHA! You gotta love the double standard. THe DA can pull this bullshit desperation move and try to bust out some girl who says Kobe touched her titty, yet if the defense tries to bring in all the dudes that have boned the accuser to show how much of a ho' she is and how easy it is to get into her pants, there's a law to prevent it.

 

[bionic77]

(Reuters) - A Florida waitress who claims that Kobe Bryant groped her at the home of his former Los Angeles Lakers teammate, Shaquille O'Neal, could be called as a witness in his upcoming rape trial, a published report said on Tuesday. Prosecutors plan to subpoena the 22-year-old woman -- and possibly O'Neal -- to testify at Bryant's rape trial in August, Sports Illustrated magazine reported on its Web site.

LOL!!!!

That awesome new Batman the Animated Series dvd has awakened the inner detective in me. It is now obvious that Kobe was framed by a man whose evil cannot be measured by modern science. They claim that those who challege his legacy become 'cursed'.

The villain is revealed!

 

[DMczaf]

Michael Jackson?

 

[bionic77]

Michael Jackson?

LOL

No the guy next to Micheal Jackson. I think Juanita better be careful, with all this talk of divorce and alimony I think she might be vulnerable to a nasty accident from the so called 'curse'.

 

[Incognito]

HAHA! You gotta love the double standard. THe DA can pull this bullshit desperation move and try to bust out some girl who says Kobe touched her titty, yet if the defense tries to bring in all the dudes that have boned the accuser to show how much of a ho' she is and how easy it is to get into her pants, there's a law to prevent it.

That's not a double standard, moron. Her being a hoe has nothing to do with whether she was raped that night or not. Promiscuous != more prone to lie about being raped. And if Kobe has a history of groping women and pulling other sorts of stunts, then of course it's going to be used in court -- it builds the case.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

and if the women has a history of being an easy fuck (not to mention a history of mental problems, which were apparently also disallowed) does it not build the defense's case? Oh well, its obvious that this is just one last hail mary attempt by the DA. They're cooked.

 

[bionic77]

That's not a double standard, moron. Her being a hoe has nothing to do with whether she was raped that night or not. Promiscuous != more prone to lie about being raped. And if Kobe has a history of groping women and pulling other sorts of stunts, then of course it's going to be used in court -- it builds the case.

I could be wrong, but having sex 8 hours after some dude who rapes you is probably not typical behavior of someone who was raped. Not to mention she is a pyscho who tried to kill herself twice before, the police department is known to be racist, and the DA has made insinuations about things before that turned out to be unture (i.e. the portland girl who Kobe 'harassed' said the DA stalked her and tried to get her to say Kobe was violent and didn't take no for an answer).

Still you are right, it doesn't mean she wasn't raped, but you have to admit this is way beyond reasonable doubt.

 

[DMczaf]

LOL

No the guy next to Micheal Jackson. I think Juanita better be careful, with all this talk of divorce and alimony I think she might be vulnerable to a nasty accident from the so called 'curse'.

Look at her dude, that curse hit her decades ago!

 

[Shinobi]

 

[bionic77]

Look at her dude, that curse hit her decades ago!

LOL

It must be said, Jordowned.

Still, MJ must be a good dad because that must have been the only reason he stuck with her (even if he lost half, half of his worth is still a lot).

 

[Blackace]

Please, ShiDouche. Just because fans in Toronto have nothing better to do during their cold, boring, dull winters than to stuff ballots for VC doesn't mean he's actually deserving of that spot.

Unlike Ray Allen, a coaches choice after only playing 25 games, VC NEEDS the fans. He's all hype, no substance. And he won't be the leading vote getter this year, either.

Well there has been winds of a VC for Allen trade... now how does that make you feel?

 

[DJ_Tet]

ShiDouche??? That the best you can do HalfPastGay? I know you think VC gets the ballot box stuffed, but it simply isn't the case. He's huge in China, and that's where he gets his advantage. That and all but like four of the forwards in the east suck camel balls.

I thought China was only allowed to vote the last two years?

 

[Incognito]

Well there has been winds of a VC for Allen trade... now how does that make you feel?

I'd probably find a revolver and play Russian roulette if that trade ever happened.

 

[Shinobi]

I thought China was only allowed to vote the last two years?

I think that's correct...no one argued against VC being the top vote getting his first three years though (though he missed the third all star game due to injury).

I'd probably find a revolver and play Russian roulette if that trade ever happened.

Save some of the bullets for me.

 

[Blackace]

I'd probably find a revolver and play Russian roulette if that trade ever happened.

hahah that's too bad you think so poorly of VC... I happen to think that is the best trade on the market for both teams. It would put VC in the SG role all the time instead of playing 2 and 3 like he has been doing in Tor. and talent for talent wise I don't think you'd find a better swap anywhere on the market... But VC is trying to pull a Tmac... by telling the team where to trade him... only he has like 4 years left on his contract!

 

[DJ_Tet]

I think that's correct...no one argued against VC being the top vote getting his first three years though (though he missed the third all star game due to injury).

I sure as hell did, but I'm a dookie so I'm biased

 

[Takuan]

http://members.cox.net/hopz/LK-47 Presents - The Best of NBA FIGHTS.wmv

NBA fights video lol

Haha, that rocks. I have another one that is completely different from this one, also quite good. A lot of Bradley getting punked, haha. Who are the guys involved in the last fight? The Pacer looks like Harrington but I can't make out the Hornet.

 

[RobotChant]

I remember it being George Lynch. Harrington, Lynch and Magloire got thrown out of that game.

I wanted them to would meet up in the playoffs but the Hornets lost to Miami in the first round.

 

[Guzim]

After watching that fight video I have to say, had Reggie Miller and John Starks not attacked Jordan, they might be wearing rings right now...

 

[DMczaf]

Wow! That was an awesome game USA vs. Germany

Iverson with the game winning 3 pointer LOL

 

[golem]

ROFL that was nuts

 

[soulja224466]

damn, that shot was crazy!

 

[Chesapeake Silt]

Haha, that was great. Also, ESPN sucks - they missed the Iverson shot live - stupid cameraman was showing a shot of the crowd when the game winner went down. Bastards.

 

[DMczaf]

Haha, that was great. Also, ESPN sucks - they missed the Iverson shot live - stupid cameraman was showing a shot of the crowd when the game winner went down. Bastards.

Yeah that was retarded.

 

[Flizzzipper]

I was at the Jordan/Miller fight game.

Team USA sucks.

 

[Malleymal]

it came down to a 3 at the buzzer???



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZER

 

[bionic77]

Last second win against Team Germany? WTF? Other then Dirk do they have anyone decent? This is really embarassing, I figured that by just having Duncan they would destroy all the international teams.

 

[Malleymal]

good to see dreams come true....

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AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) -- Horace Jenkins signed with the NBA champion Detroit Pistons on Wednesday.

Jenkins, a 6-foot-1 point guard, played on the Pistons' summer league team and averaged 8.2 points and 2.8 assists in five games.

``He has gained valuable experience playing in Europe over the last three years, and we look forward to having him on the roster,'' Pistons president Joe Dumars said in a statement.

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Piston fans should be happy, this guy can play... he is from this D3 school here in Jersey called william paterson.., he is serious ... as a matter of fact you may remember him if you saw that ESPN show "the life" they documented him on Draft night and he thought he would get drafted, but he didnt.... just saw him at a summer league here in Jersey, put up like 40.... quickest first step i have seen in my life...

 

[Shinobi]

It's beyond puzzling...Germany didn't even qualify for the Olympics. They're missing last year's squad more then I ever thought was possible...

I sure as hell did, but I'm a dookie so I'm biased

At least you had a legit reason...

 

[Loki]

Wow, that US victory on the halfcourt heave by AI was today? After the Italy debacle? Jeez...you'd think they would have come to play after that embarrassing showing against Italy. But yeah, I forgot- today's players are so much better. Anyone think that the '92 Dream Team wouldn't still be dominating by 20-30 points each game?


They should have just let the Pistons play as a team-- because at least they'd be a team. Same with the Spurs last year and the dynasty Lakers; the NBA should've sent these teams to the Olympics/World Games.


Wade has really impressed me though with his passing, to Duncan in particular. He caught Duncan in motion several times during the Italy game; if Shaq moves around at all, I think they'll fit well together. That's a big "if", however.

 

[Cooter]

AI is the best.

They should just let him put up every shot and clean up the misses.

 

[bionic77]

Wow, that US victory on the halfcourt heave by AI was today? After the Italy debacle? Jeez...you'd think they would have come to play after that embarrassing showing against Italy. But yeah, I forgot- today's players are so much better. Anyone think that the '92 Dream Team wouldn't still be dominating by 20-30 points each game?


They should have just let the Pistons play as a team-- because at least they'd be a team. Same with the Spurs last year and the dynasty Lakers; the NBA should've sent these teams to the Olympics/World Games.


Wade has really impressed me though with his passing, to Duncan in particular. He caught Duncan in motion several times during the Italy game; if Shaq moves around at all, I think they'll fit well together. That's a big "if", however.

Uh, the Dream Team was the best the US had to offer, most of the US's best players didn't even show up.

Another faulty analogy Loki, but you can refute this by watching some tapes from 1895 which will clearly show that players were larger and faster then players of today.

 

[DMczaf]

Another faulty analogy Loki, but you can refute this by watching some tapes from 1895 which will clearly show that players were larger and faster then players of today.

Hey!

Best athletes ever!

 

[DMczaf]

Preseason schedule out

Oct. 8
Utah at CSKA Universal Sport Hall, Moscow, Russia 8:30 p.m.

Oct. 10
Golden State at Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento, Calif. 6 p.m.
Miami at Houston Toyota Center, Houston 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 11
Washington at Indiana 7 p.m.

Oct. 12
Memphis at Orlando TD Waterhouse Centre, Orlando 7 p.m.
Chicago at Boston Verizon Wireless Arena, Manchester, N.H. 7 p.m.
Washington at Philadelphia Cameron Indoor Stadium, Durham, N.C. 7:30 p.m.
Seattle at L.A. Lakers Arrowhead Pond, Anaheim, Calif. 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 13
Dallas at New Orleans New Orleans Arena 7 p.m.
L.A. Clippers at Phoenix America West Arena, Phoenix 7p.m.
Seattle at Portland Rose Garden, Portland 7 p.m.
Orlando at Atlanta Macon Coliseum, Macon, Ga. 7:30 p.m.
Boston at Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) 7:30 p.m.
Minnesota at Milwaukee Alerus Center, Grand Forks, N.D. 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 14
New Jersey at New York Wachovia Arena, Wilkes-Barre, Pa. 7 p.m.
Washington at Charlotte Charlotte Coliseum 7 p.m.
Cleveland at Memphis FedExForum, Memphis 7 p.m.
Milwaukee at Denver World Arena, Colorado Springs, Colo. 7 p.m.
Minnesota at Atlanta Birmingham-Jefferson County 7:30 p.m.
Civic Center (Ala.)
Portland at Golden State The Arena in Oakland (Calif.) 7:30 p.m.
Houston at Sacramento (ESPN) Shanghai (China) Stadium 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 15
Philadelphia at Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto 7 p.m.
New Orleans at Chicago United Center, Chicago 7:30 p.m.
Orlando at Miami St. Pete Times Forum, Tampa, Fla. 8 p.m.

Oct. 16
San Antonio at New York Madison Square Garden, New York 1 p.m.
Indiana at Memphis FedExForum, Memphis 7 p.m.
L.A. Clippers at New Orleans Cajundome, Lafayette, La. 7 p.m.
Charlotte at Portland Rose Garden, Portland 7 p.m.
Phoenix at Seattle KeyArena, Seattle 7 p.m.
Boston at New Jersey Pepsi Arena, Albany, N.Y. 7:30 p.m.
Detroit at Miami Alltel Arena, Little Rock, Ark. 7:30 p.m.
Chicago at Cleveland Savvis Center, St. Louis, Mo. 7:30 p.m.
Denver at Milwaukee Bradley Center, Milwaukee 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 17
Houston at Sacramento Capital Indoor Stadium Noon
Beijing, China
Toronto at Philadelphia John Labatt Centre, 1 p.m.
London, Ontario
Minnesota at Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) 6 p.m.
Utah at Seattle Spokane (Wash.) Arena 6 p.m.
Golden State at L.A. Lakers Centennial Garden, 6:30 p.m.
Bakersfield, Calif.
Dallas at Orlando TD Waterhouse Centre, Orlando 7 p.m.

Oct. 18
New Jersey at Cleveland Gund Arena, Cleveland 7:30 p.m.
Atlanta at Miami AmericanAirlines Arena, Miami 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 19
Minnesota at Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis 7 p.m.
Philadelphia at New Orleans New Orleans Arena 7 p.m.
New York at Utah Delta Center, Salt Lake City 7 p.m.
Charlotte at New Jersey Continental Airlines Arena, 7 p.m.
East Rutherford, N.J.
Boston at Chicago United Center, Chicago 7:30 p.m.
Milwaukee at Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas 7:30 p.m.
Phoenix at San Antonio SBC Center, San Antonio 7:30 p.m.
Golden State at L.A. Clippers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 20
Memphis at Atlanta Philips Arena, Atlanta 11 a.m.
Benetton Treviso at Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto 7 p.m.
Washington at Detroit Van Andel Arena, 7 p.m.
Grand Rapids, Mich.
Utah at Phoenix America West Arena, Phoenix 7 p.m.
Charlotte at Cleveland University of Dayton Arena 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 21
Denver at L.A. Clippers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 4:30 p.m.
Milwaukee at Memphis FedExForum, Memphis 7 p.m.
Portland at Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto 7 p.m.
Orlando at New Orleans Mississippi Coast Coliseum, 7 p.m.
Biloxi, Miss.
Golden State at L.A. Lakers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 7:30 p.m.
Chicago at Houston Toyota Center, Houston 7:30 p.m.
New York at Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 22
Denver at Golden State STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 4:30 p.m.
Portland at Charlotte Charlotte Coliseum 7 p.m.
New York at Minnesota Sioux Falls (S.D.) Arena 7 p.m.
Sacramento at Utah Delta Center, Salt Lake City 7 p.m.
New Jersey at Boston FleetCenter, Boston 7:30 p.m.
L.A. Clippers at L.A. Lakers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 7:30 p.m.
Miami at Atlanta Philips Arena, Atlanta 8 p.m.
Washington at Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) 8 p.m.

Oct. 23
Houston at Orlando TD Waterhouse Centre, Orlando 7 p.m.
Atlanta at Memphis FedExForum, Memphis 7 p.m.
Indiana at Minnesota Bismarck (N.D.) Civic Center 7 p.m.
New Orleans at Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento 7 p.m.
Cleveland at Boston Mohegan Sun Arena, 7:30 p.m.
Uncasville, Conn.
New Jersey at Philadelphia Wachovia Center, Philadelphia 7:30 p.m.
Toronto at Chicago United Center, Chicago 7:30 p.m.
Dallas at Milwaukee Bradley Center, Milwaukee 7:30 p.m.
Seattle at San Antonio SBC Center, San Antonio 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 24
Utah at Detroit The Palace of Auburn Hills (Mich.) 6 p.m.
New Orleans at L.A. Clippers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 6 p.m.
Dallas at New York Madison Square Garden, New York 7 p.m.
Charlotte at Washington MCI Center, Washington 7 p.m.
Indiana at Denver Pepsi Center, Denver 7 p.m.
Phoenix at L.A. Lakers Thomas and Mack Center, Las Vegas 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 25
Golden State at Portland Rose Garden, Portland 7 p.m.
Boston at Cleveland Schottenstein Center, Columbus, Ohio 7:30 p.m.
Washington at Chicago United Center, Chicago 7:30 p.m.
Seattle at L.A. Lakers San Diego Sports Arena 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 26
Miami at Charlotte Charlotte Coliseum 11 a.m.
Utah at Philadelphia Wachovia Center, Philadelphia 7 p.m.
Memphis at Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis 7 p.m.
Toronto at Denver Pepsi Center, Denver 7 p.m.
Seattle at Phoenix American West Arena, Phoenix 7 p.m.
New York at New Jersey Continental Airlines Arena, 7:30 p.m.
East Rutherford, N.J.
San Antonio at Dallas America Airlines Center, Dallas 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 27
Detroit at Boston FleetCenter, Boston 7 p.m.
Atlanta at Charlotte Crown Coliseum, Fayetteville, N.C. 7 p.m.
Miami at Orlando TD Waterhouse Centre, Orlando 7 p.m.
Chicago at Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis 7 p.m.
Milwaukee at Minnesota Target Center, Minneapolis 7 p.m.
Toronto at Portland Rose Garden, Portland 7 p.m.
San Antonio at Houston Laredo (Texas) Civic Center 7:30 p.m.
L.A. Clippers at Golden State The Arena in Oakland (Calif.) 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 28
Memphis at Milwaukee Resch Center, Green Bay, Wis. 7 p.m.
Philadelphia at New Jersey Continental Airlines Arena, 7:30 p.m. East Rutherford, N.J.
Utah at New York Madison Square Garden, New York 7:30 p.m.
Atlanta at Cleveland Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, Pa. 7:30 p.m.
Sacramento at Dallas American Airlines Center, Dallas 7:30 p.m.
Denver at Houston Toyota Center, Houston 7:30 p.m.
Washington at L.A. Lakers Ford Center, Oklahoma City 7:30 p.m.
Phoenix at LA Clippers STAPLES Center, Los Angeles 7:30 p.m.

Oct. 29
Cleveland at Toronto Air Canada Centre, Toronto 7 p.m.
Denver at Indiana Conseco Fieldhouse, Indianapolis 7 p.m.
Detroit at Minnesota Target Center, Minneapolis 7 p.m.
Portland at Seattle KeyArena, Seattle 7 p.m.
New Orleans at San Antonio SBC Center, San Antonio 7:30 p.m.
Phoenix at Sacramento ARCO Arena, Sacramento 7:30 p.m.

 

[Loki]

Uh, the Dream Team was the best the US had to offer, most of the US's best players didn't even show up.

Another faulty analogy Loki, but you can refute this by watching some tapes from 1895 which will clearly show that players were larger and faster then players of today.

Yet your "larger and faster players" didn't do much these past few days, eh? That's my point-- they may be "talented" and "athletic", but the game of basketball is about more than athleticism; the US is quickly learning this lesson-- as if they needed any more evidence after the thrashings of the past 5-7 years in int'l competition. Fact: the '92 Dream Team would be abusing these teams today, because in addition to great individual talent, they all knew how to play team ball and had solid fundamentals. I mean, those Italians were barely getting off the ground, weren't muscular, and none of them had blazing speed-- yet they torched the US. A good team composed of good, fundamentally sound players will trounce hastily composed all-star, me-first teams any day.

The evidence is before you in the performances of the last 2 days.