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NBA Playoffs |OT| AKA Derrick Rose's family time
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friskykillface
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if Dwight is serious, he can't go for a max deal
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I enjoyed that Dwight Howard therapy session. So random in terms of timing but was cool.
Come back home to Orlando Dwight.
Come back home to Orlando Dwight.
I'll find Ainge's address if he does some dumb shit like that...
friskykillface
Banned
my name is ed
Banned
if Leonard, Iggy, Draymond Green, or Danny Green cant shut down KD what makes you think Lebron would lol
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This makes no sense. Why would he take less money for the sake of taking less money? Every team in the league is going to have money to spend the next few years with the cap ballooning and there simply aren't that many guys who can make an impact like Dwight. Dude is going to get the max even with all the questions and its completely justifiable.
I'd take D12 over Barnes and DeRozan. Sad but true.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
If you think about it this was like Dwight's version of the decision lol
friskykillface
Banned
he basically did in 2012, that Thunder team is way better than this thunder team
So they can sign more people, Dwight already made money, sign another max guy
perfectchaos007
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Yeah I definitely not see the Spurs losing this series given how good they usually are during the playoffs. OKC is going to be hype as hell for game 6. Not sure the Spurs can overcome that
my name is ed
Banned
no he didnt
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2012-nba-finals-heat-vs-thunder.html
do you have kd confused with some player that didnt average 30 points a game on 55/39/83 shooting with 6 rbs
edit: comparing the 2012 Thunder team to this 2016 Thunder
2012
Record: 47-19
PTS/G: 103.1 (3rd of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 96.9 (17th of 30)
SRS: 6.44 (3rd of 30) ▪ Pace: 93.0 (6th of 30)
Off Rtg: 109.8 (2nd of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 103.2 (11th of 30)
Expected W-L: 46-20 (4th of 30)
2016
Record: 55-27
PTS/G: 110.2 (2nd of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 102.9 (15th of 30)
SRS: 7.09 (3rd of 30) ▪ Pace: 96.7 (10th of 30)
Off Rtg: 113.1 (2nd of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 105.6 (13th of 30)
Expected W-L: 59-23 (3rd of 30)
So no, 2016 > 2012 by a pretty comfortable margin
I like this Thunder team's experience and Adams/Kanter impact. Them vs Bogut/Green would be pretty interesting. They could get killed on depth, but will just have to go with the short liineup. Spurs with droughts are much more likely to get blown out right now.
Wow. Dwight should just retire and take over for shaq on that show...much better spoken and intelligent. Total BS how he had to be publicly patronized by Smith and Barkley. smh. (this coming from someone who is definitely not a d12 fan).
Also, cut the old guy crap about how defense used to be tougher. OK? Can you explain why scoring is down compared to your era? Oh, thats right...you can't - you didn't have to face zones at any point...
Also, cut the old guy crap about how defense used to be tougher. OK? Can you explain why scoring is down compared to your era? Oh, thats right...you can't - you didn't have to face zones at any point...
friskykillface
Banned
LOL that shaq tweet
It is fair to say that if everyone plays their best game that GSW will just win. Their best isn't beatable by any remaining teams. However, if you catch them in a mediocre shooting and playing mode like they were last year in the finals they can potentially be beat.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
That Thunder team had Nazr & Kendrick Perkins.. hell no.
It's just that the competition is better now than it was in '12-'13
Lionel Richie
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No it really wasn't, this Thunder team has way more talent especially when you remember that Harden was concussed as fuck during that series and the team was way too young.
Game 1 was a "we're gonna sweep you" statement game, but OKC is matching up well and actually playing 4th quarters
my name is ed
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Looking over some more stats for the Thunder over the years.
2013 Team would have had a great chance to win the finals
Record: 60-22
PTS/G: 105.7 (3rd of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 96.5 (9th of 30)
SRS: 9.15 (1st of 30) ▪ Pace: 93.3 (10th of 30)
Off Rtg: 112.4 (1st of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 102.6 (4th of 30)
Expected W-L: 64-18 (1st of 30)
Shame Beverly launched himself at WB's knee
2014 Team was also really strong
Record: 59-23,
PTS/G: 106.2 (5th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 99.8 (12th of 30)
SRS: 6.66 (3rd of 30) ▪ Pace: 95.4 (9th of 30)
Off Rtg: 110.5 (6th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 103.9 (6th of 30)
Expected W-L: 58-24 (3rd of 30)
2013 Team would have had a great chance to win the finals
Record: 60-22
PTS/G: 105.7 (3rd of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 96.5 (9th of 30)
SRS: 9.15 (1st of 30) ▪ Pace: 93.3 (10th of 30)
Off Rtg: 112.4 (1st of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 102.6 (4th of 30)
Expected W-L: 64-18 (1st of 30)
Shame Beverly launched himself at WB's knee
2014 Team was also really strong
Record: 59-23,
PTS/G: 106.2 (5th of 30) ▪ Opp PTS/G: 99.8 (12th of 30)
SRS: 6.66 (3rd of 30) ▪ Pace: 95.4 (9th of 30)
Off Rtg: 110.5 (6th of 30) ▪ Def Rtg: 103.9 (6th of 30)
Expected W-L: 58-24 (3rd of 30)
Dreams-Visions
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I guess he's never been on teams you like. He ain't been shit since he left Orlando.
tiggerkiddo
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Time to recruit Durant San Antonio!
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The 2 best players on the court are wearing OKC jerseys. SA was the favorite but this result isn't surprising especially with some of OKC's role players stepping it up. Still a series though.
The One and Done
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Leonard was reminded that he is a grown man rocking straight backs today.
King Tubby
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I just really don't see how GSW loses a series with all the pieces they have being about as healthy as you could hope for just as we're coming to the final two rounds. Your team can play a damn near perfect game and Curry will fuck around and drop 40 regardless just dribbling defenders out of their sneakers and bombing from 30 feet. I wouldn't give any other team greater than a 25% chance of beating them.
I mean, Durant and Westbrook are two of the best players in the world, and Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are finally starting to show their age. Even so, two of the Spurs' losses really came down to a matter of like 1 or 2 shots bouncing an inch one way or the other. We could easily have been talking about what OKC's future will be like after losing to the Spurs in 5 games.
I mean, Durant and Westbrook are two of the best players in the world, and Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili are finally starting to show their age. Even so, two of the Spurs' losses really came down to a matter of like 1 or 2 shots bouncing an inch one way or the other. We could easily have been talking about what OKC's future will be like after losing to the Spurs in 5 games.
Hell no.
FWIW, 538 has Golden State as the title favourites at 51%.
PadWarrior
Member
That low?
Thunder's offensive rebounding rate was 50% with David West on the floor, holy shit. He and Duncan just aren't athletic enough to keep up with OKC's bigs.
lol well they have to split it up somewhat. Cavs are the closest at 20%.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
The fix was on for that last possession between Westbrook and Kawhi.
Kawhi grabbed him like linebacker and no foul.. meanwhile Adams trips one player into another and gets a foul.
Kawhi grabbed him like linebacker and no foul.. meanwhile Adams trips one player into another and gets a foul.
PadWarrior
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True. Guess I just don't see anyone beating a heathy warriors team.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Holy shit, can't believe the Thunder won. Hard fought, good for them.
Gonna be tough for them to knock out GS tho.
Gonna be tough for them to knock out GS tho.
Sure. That figure actually means they are significantly better than everyone left.
It probably factors in a ~65% chance of beating the Spurs and a ~80% chance of beating the Cavs (just my guesses). That adds up to 51% (ok, actually 52%). Thats a rough estimate as other teams still factor in.
PadWarrior
Member
Yeah makes sense I think I just had a mental hiccup lol
King Tubby
Member
Well, they still basically have two series left against the toughest opponents they can possibly face. If I gave them a 75% chance of winning each of those series, that'd end up at a ~56% chance of winning it all. Not that farfetched.
Yeah, I can see it.
Cavs actually have a better chance at the finals (99% lol) which makes sense given the state of Miami and Toronto, but Golden State is favored should they meet them there.
CassidyIzABeast
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The free agent KD sweepstakes has been canceled
Jack The Nipper
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I'm very surprised at okc more than anyone. That's not the team from the regular season.
Maybe sa is also just too old. Don't feel they have really put played them these last two games.
San Antonio really needs a guy like Durant on the team. Really missing that. If parker, Duncan and manu were much younger with these other guys in doubt they can be beat.
I still think of okc or cavs are losing they go into panic disruption mode, but that may not have a chance to happen until okc versus gs or cavs in finals.
They both surprised me quite a bit. They are definitely playing different than thier regular seasons showed me.
I think we saw some signs of the spurs issues in thier last games of the regular season with gs which they simply couldn't win even with some rest.
Maybe sa is also just too old. Don't feel they have really put played them these last two games.
San Antonio really needs a guy like Durant on the team. Really missing that. If parker, Duncan and manu were much younger with these other guys in doubt they can be beat.
I still think of okc or cavs are losing they go into panic disruption mode, but that may not have a chance to happen until okc versus gs or cavs in finals.
They both surprised me quite a bit. They are definitely playing different than thier regular seasons showed me.
I think we saw some signs of the spurs issues in thier last games of the regular season with gs which they simply couldn't win even with some rest.
I didn't realize that was his rookie year. He did finish second for Rookie of the Year behind Webber but no where in the MVP list. Kevin Willis tied for 11th. That's weird.
hydragonwarrior
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Thunder vs Raps
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