He doesn't have that many "45/20/15's" left in his career
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NBA Playoffs |OT| AKA Derrick Rose's family time
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He doesn't have that many "45/20/15's" left in his career
It's not like Wiggins is a plus player right now. Time will tell though. Wolves have big-time potential though especially if they land Dunn. Young and stacked with talent.
sir_kevith
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I just want to hear how brutal the OKC crowd is going to be when Draymond gets the ball. This game is going to be entertaining as all hell because I can't imagine GS accepting another blow out or even a loss at any cost.
it's funny because that being a bad trade didn't require hindsight, yet it still happened
No way. I'm not counting them out until it's over. Kinda amusing to me how many people seem to be sleeping on the defending champs.
DeaconKnowledge
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Did you watch Sunday's game?
catpurrcat
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And one of those 10 regular season losses was to the expansion raptors (20 wins) played in a baseball stadium.
friskykillface
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would be funny if someone from OKC got ejected tonight, the crowd will go nuts and probably throw shit on the court
catpurrcat
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Raptors fans appreciate the development time the Wolves staff have put into our Wiggins. No growing pains when he gets here.
Lionel Richie
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I don't think he's elite yet, but Wiggins is 20 years old, averaged over 20 PPG and improved considerably on his efficiency from his rookie season. The potential is scary there and Kevin Love looks like ass and is probably one of the 5 worst defenders in the NBA. Lebron shouldn't ever be allowed to act as a GM again.
Doc Holliday
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He's not that old, he's only 31 and he's never gone through mayor injury.
Basileus777
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The real answer is that they should have traded Wiggins for something other than Love who is getting outperformed by Frye, a guy they got for a trade exception.
Lionel Richie
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I agree that when you can make a trade to bring your team closer to a championship, you absolutely have to do it. Love was just the wrong player though.
The mistake ia not trading Wiggins, but trading for Love. They could have gotten a much better player for a highly valuable at that time Wiggins.
Man I saw a Warriors writer on twitter mention earlier that the Warriors could have drafted Rudy Gobert in 2013. Part of a larger conversation about how Golden State's frontcourt is becoming pretty inconsistent outside of Draymond.
Dubs definitely need some young talent soon, or at least younger than what they got. They haven't hit on anything since 2012, and one of those guys (Barnes) may be gone soon.
Dubs definitely need some young talent soon, or at least younger than what they got. They haven't hit on anything since 2012, and one of those guys (Barnes) may be gone soon.
When you come in out of high school 31 is a little older than it sounds. I mean Lebron is still great, but this is year 13 already and he has an insane amount of mileage when you factor in all the Olympics play and deep playoff runs.
Ninja Scooter
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He's got major mileage on his body. Maybe he's another Karl Malone who will just defy Father Time but most guys, even greats, start to break down when they hit the minutes and games played numbers LeBron has hit, especially when you factor in 5 straight deep playoff runs and his Olympic stuff in the summer.
Did you see the Thunder get stumped by the Spurs in game 1 and come back to win the series
Final score means nothing, GS only has to win one game in OKC and they take back home court
Bam Bam Baklava
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I didn't know playoff series were decided by one game. Thunder got blown out in game 2, they blow them out in game 3...what am I supposed to be seeing other than one was more recent?
that trade got shit on in real time too
I think Dubs can win this series if they win tonight, but I don't like the matchup at all for GS going forward. Durant has done a great job on Draymond for the most part and even our usual small ball advantage seems nonexistent against OKC's smaller lineups. Couple all that with Steph not being MVP-level Steph and I'm feeling pretty gloomy about their chances.
clevbrowns94
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I think the biggest problem of the Love Wiggins trade is that it gives you a big three with two out of three that can't play defense. That wasn't the case with other big threes that won championships like Boston, Miami, GS, etc. And if Love is off on offense, he really contributes nothing (rebounding maybe, but that's not enough). Sure, Kyrie can have an off game like he did in game 3, but it certainly happens a lot less than Love having one.
Before the trade, I said it was stupid because LeBron is getting old and having Wiggins around to guard the other team's best wing scorer would be more important than what Love would provide on the offensive end. I stand by that. This team needed more defense, not offense.
Wiggins sucks at defense. Just sayin
Jack The Nipper
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I assume green's 'I'm never going to be careful' was posted.
Ninja Scooter
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There's no guarantee Wiggins would have developed the same way in Cleveland, with all the pressure of playing with LeBron and on a title contender, as he did in Minny where nobody really cares if you win or lose. I mean, it's not like he's a franchise type player yet even with the Wolves.
Better than Love and Kyrie!
rokkerkory
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cavs are master at flopping
Gotdatmoney
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Love was the wrong player. Even win now I would rather pay a peanuts contract for one of the nost freakishly athletic talents in recent memory to come off the bench and pay softer contract on solid role players than all thry gave up for Love. People may disagree but long term and short term I think it was a fucking horrible deal. Rookie Wiggins was a way better defender than Love.
Even now they still really dont know what to do with Love and the team is fucking horrible defensively.
Basileus777
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Love was just a poor fit as a third option guy. You need your third option to be a more rounded player because he's never going to get the touches to maximize his impact when he is on the same team as Lebron and Kyrie. Love's inability to hold up defensively at the 5 also makes him a poor complement to Lebron who needs minutes at the 4 and that was already apparent 2 years ago. We already knew then that Lebron was essentially a 4 and thrived playing next to a big like Bosh, except Love can't handle the Bosh role on defense.
The main point is that, when you already have Kyrie, you need to find defensive help. Starting two minus defenders is a recipe for disaster. I may have overrated Wiggins' defensive ability (I only read about his game since I don't watch college ball) but I was right that the Cavs weakness was (and still is) defense and they should fill that hole.
This is not a hindsight insight. This is LeBron being a bad GM.
This is not a hindsight insight. This is LeBron being a bad GM.
PadWarrior
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Wow lol
Gotdatmoney
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His one on one man to man defense is fubdamentally solid imo. He breaks down when it comes to switches and positioning which is something that can improve with time, coaching and good veteran presence.
DeaconKnowledge
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Don't see how any of this changes what i said. Nobody is sleeping in the warriors but game 3 exposed a lot of deep flaws in their game.
Mix Master
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Win first 2 games in a blowout fashion
Lose 2 in a row
Lose 2 in a row
UncleMeat
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Got a ticket to the game tonight; I'm hoping for a game 3 repeat but I'm willing to take things to the next level if necessary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gdh2GYOsSc
Everyone was fooled with Love. Guy was 25/14 as the man for Minnesota. People expected pts to go down some, and effeciency to go up.
mechashiva
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I was at game 3. Hope you get to enjoy the same magic.
UncleMeat
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Thanks, should be fun. I have a sneaking suspicion that Draymond is going to get booed.
CassidyIzABeast
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Kevin Love aint about that playoff life. You can't finesse the team out of 110M and not play in the 4th quarter.
sir_kevith
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I think the main problem with game 3 is that Draymond had a bad game and rather than taking a break and figuring out how to contribute, he got more and more desparate and doubled down on BS and continually made things worse.
Also Bogut has been getting in foul trouble early on since the Portland games and he's a freakin starter. This deep in the playoffs you can't have an ineffective starter. Barnes didn't put up good numbers either but at least he could be on the floor. Curry and Klay put up numbers similar to game 2 but without any production from the rest of the starters then there's no chance in hell when all OKCs starters were contributing.
That perfectly explains that weird ass State Farm commercial. All he wants to do is rain dimes.
You really think they would have given a near-maximum contract to Tristan Thompson if LeBron didn't want him? You really think they would have gotten rid of Wiggins and brought in Love if LeBron didn't want him? You really think they would have canned the coach midseason if LeBron wasn't alright with it?
Yes, we exaggerate LeBron's influence by saying he actually is the GM, but if you think they're doing these moves without his consent, you're crazy.
TheLaughingStock
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We live in a what have you done for me lately era. KD could win the championship this year and be a washed up bum next season.
LyleLanley
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LOL.
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