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NBA pulls 2017 All-Star Game out of Charlotte due to LGBT laws

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linsivvi

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I'm torn on this.

On one hand, this law is stupid. It should go.

On the other hand, businesses should not be able to bully governments into changing laws. Government is meant to serve the people, not businesses.

ay yay yay...

It's not bullying if the law is immoral.
 

Blue Calx

Member
Good on the NBA. Here's McCroy's response:

“The sports and entertainment elite, Attorney General Roy Cooper and the liberal media have for months misrepresented our laws and maligned the people of North Carolina simply because most people believe boys and girls should be able to use school bathrooms, locker rooms and showers without the opposite sex present. Twenty-one other states have joined North Carolina to challenge the federal overreach by the Obama administration mandating their bathroom policies in all businesses and schools instead of allowing accommodations for unique circumstances. Left-wing special interest groups have no moral authority to try and intimidate the large majority of American parents who agree in common-sense bathroom and shower privacy for our children. American families should be on notice that the selective corporate elite are imposing their political will on communities in which they do business, thus bypassing the democratic and legal process.”

Governor McCrory Issues Statement on the NBA's Decision to Relocate 2017 All-Star Game

Fuck McCrory.
 

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
So the NBA is just 'on the brink' of not having the ASG in Charlotte and haven't actually pulled the trigger yet?

I'll withhold my congratulations until they actually pull the game.
 

Mortemis

Banned
So the NBA is just 'on the brink' of not having the ASG in Charlotte and haven't actually pulled the trigger yet?

I'll withhold my congratulations until they actually pull the game.

Nah they did. Look a couple of posts up for the official statement.

Good on the NBA for doing this. I feel bad for Charlotte, but hopefully the people of NC can get these clowns out of office and revoke these laws so they can get it back soon.
 
I'm torn on this.

On one hand, this law is stupid. It should go.

On the other hand, businesses should not be able to bully governments into changing laws. Government is meant to serve the people, not businesses.

ay yay yay...

Businesses are people, friend
 

Bad_Boy

time to take my meds
well that just sucks... i had plans of buying tickets and going next year as a treat to myself for when I get ouf of the military. charlotte is right down the road from me.
 

UberTag

Member
If they really want to put the squeeze to North Carolina, they'll bar teams from drafting players from NC-based schools.
 
I'm torn on this.

On one hand, this law is stupid. It should go.

On the other hand, businesses should not be able to bully governments into changing laws. Government is meant to serve the people, not businesses.

ay yay yay...

To an extent, I agree.

But on the other hand, the very sorts of people who enacted and/or support this bullshit law and similar laws are invariably the ones who have given and continue to give business as much power to dictate politics as possible.

So you know what? They can get rammed up the ass with their own spiked dildo all fucking day. Karma porn is my kink.
 

mieumieu

Member
Hey guys,

Do you know any material I can use to debate with others on this bathroom issue? Like statistics and such.

NBA fans in my country have a hard time understanding this issue and a lot of them simply assume this is PC police gone awry...
 

Monocle

Member
Good. Anything to disrupt the cruel exceptionalism that bigots want to be the status quo. Fix your life, assholes.

I'm torn on this.

On one hand, this law is stupid. It should go.

On the other hand, businesses should not be able to bully governments into changing laws. Government is meant to serve the people, not businesses.

ay yay yay...
So we've decided that a business making sure all its employees are treated equally is bullying? Making LGBT fans feel as welcome as anyone else at a game is bullying?

No. Don't let apologists for discrimination muddle your thinking here. Standing up to bigotry is not a form of bigotry, and influencing discriminatory laws by declining to be hosted by a state that has legally enshrined bigotry is a valid form of speech. You could even argue that organizations as influential as the NBA have a moral obligation to take this kind of stand.
 

jmood88

Member
I'm torn on this.

On one hand, this law is stupid. It should go.

On the other hand, businesses should not be able to bully governments into changing laws. Government is meant to serve the people, not businesses.

ay yay yay...
No one is being bullied. The NBA said they'd move their game of the law wasn't changed, the law wasn't changed, so they left. They aren't obligated to hold the game there.

Anyway, I can't wait for another all star game to come to New Orleans and allow me to go to all kinds of free concerts and get free shit like last time.
 

Monocle

Member
While I think this is a great thing, this is a pretty dangerous stance to take. The argument could just as easily be turned into: "not anti-LGBT laws is immoral."
Good luck rationally justifying that though. "All our employees and fans should be treated fairly and equally" isn't an especially difficult position to grasp. It's a little tougher to argue the opposite.

"While we value the labor and money of LGBT people, we disapprove of their disordered lifestyles and would ask that they act normal in all circumstances connected to our business."
 
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