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[Metalingus5150]

So called officials.

 

[sturgboski]

Looks like ten senior officials weren't having the BS from last night.

Are you saying the moment the news media fawned all over last night with the widow was just using her as a political prop and applause line?


The thing that I don't get is this: if it was a success and we got all this information, Trump would be extolling his greatness. Instead he is blaming his generals and Obama. Clearly this raid was a travesty that should have been avoided and garnered nothing of note, save for playing small minded people and the media like a fiddle.

 

[The Last Wizard]

Looks like ten senior officials weren't having the BS from last night.

You really believe this fake news?

 

[Tranqueris]

Looks like ten senior officials weren't having the BS from last night.

Trump: "Fuck, can we drag our useful prop out in front of the cameras again? Maybe let's also throw in the Benghazi mom and she if that helps out somehow."

 

[old manatee]

But during Trump's Presidential President speech he said that it was a highly successful raid that generated large amounts of vital intelligence that will lead to many more victories in the future against our enemies.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Looks like ten senior officials weren't having the BS from last night.

When POTUS finally gets a handle on what optics are and how to leverage this we'll be in real trouble. No amiunt of faceless high ranking officials will be able to push back the opinion of the populace when they're getting the "POTUS was well mannered" narrative Ali g with his lies about this botched mission.

 

[this_guy]

Don't count if sources aren't named - comment from anonymous White House source.

 

[Vinsanity.]

Wouldn't it be highly classified on what type or amount of info was gained from a military raid?

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Wouldn't it be highly classified on what type or amount of info was gained from a military raid?

Probably. Which is why if it was highly useful intel, IC people wouldn't be talking about it.

 

[Turbo Killer]

But his widow cried on TV last night in that Emmy nominated moment, the guy died saving us from child terrorists.

 

[Kephar]

Are you saying the moment the news media fawned all over last night with the widow was just using her as a political prop and applause line?


The thing that I don't get is this: if it was a success and we got all this information, Trump would be extolling his greatness. Instead he is blaming his generals and Obama. Clearly this raid was a travesty that should have been avoided and garnered nothing of note, save for playing small minded people and the media like a fiddle.

You would think she could see Trump was just using her considering her father-in-law could.

 

[OG Shaka Zulu]

How the eff do you accidentally kill 9 children?

 

[Bastables]

Wouldn't it be highly classified on what type or amount of info was gained from a military raid?

Why? The raid seems to have really been a capture or kill op, one that failed as the target managed to be away from the target area. Any intel that's left in a botched raid is/should be suspect because the opposition that have enough time to get the target away would also be taking any priority intel with them.

The baddies should know what intel and actionable intel they left behind (if any) for the US team and logically will act on the knowledge of items they know to be compromised. What is the point of opsec in this case as one can presume the intel gains is worthless? To lie to your own public?

There's also the odd acceptance that now the US military is 100% ok with conducting raids to grab presumed HDD and papers, which is utterly at odds with traditional use of raids where you capture people so you can interrogate them as that humint is considered valuable enough to risk your own troops for since pre gunpowder times, you don't do it with a focus on personal/unit diaries..

 

[metalslimer]

A woman's husband was killed in a botched operation and the man that sent him to his death used her as a prop, and the media applauded him for it. I hate this country so much sometimes

 

[Sunster]

A woman's husband was killed in a botched operation and the man that sent him to his death used her as a prop, and the media applauded him for it. I hate this country so much sometimes

sometimes I feel like we are living in South Park and Washington + the media are the parents.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

A woman's husband was killed in a botched operation and the man that sent him to his death used her as a prop, and the media applauded him for it. I hate this country so much sometimes

Don't forget:

And Ryan is looking down right now and I think he’s very happy because he broke a record

 

[Nemesis121]

Trump launched Yemen raid after being told Obama wouldn't have

Also Blamed Obama for the failure and refuse to accept the blame...

 

[Turbo Killer]

A woman's husband was killed in a botched operation and the man that sent him to his death used her as a prop, and the media applauded him for it. I hate this country so much sometimes

She allowed herself to be used, his dad is looking for justice and she's looking to be on TV.

 

[Azuran]

Looks like ten senior officials weren't having the BS from last night.

But he got a record ovation from Congress.

 

[Extollere]

Can we shove this in his face for a while like the Republicans did with Benghazi?

I fucking hate how Republicans literally DO NOT care when a Republican president fucks up horrendously, but the tiniest mistake by a Democrat and they're calling for their head.

 

[old manatee]

She allowed herself to be used, his dad is looking for justice and she's looking to be on TV.

damn no empathy for the grieving widow?

 

[UberTag]

Can we shove this in his face for a while like the Republicans did with Benghazi?

I fucking hate how Republicans literally DO NOT care when a Republican president fucks up horrendously, but the tiniest mistake by a Democrat and they're calling for their head.

They'll pretend to care about all of this horseshit again the next time a Democrat takes office and they won't be called out for their hypocrisy.

 

[Darryl M R]

damn no empathy for the grieving widow?

Grieving by allowing yourself to be a prop for the man that sent your husband to die for no good reason.

 

[Spider from Mars]

All the clowns who applauded Trump and called him presidential for last night need to re-calibrate themselves, especially those in the media.

 

[TimeEffect]

Just to remind people

1. Trump made this decision during dinner

2. He couldn't even be bothered to be in situation room during the operation

3. Trump used the name of the fallen solider to deflect criticism from himself

Wait, is this the soldier in the congress speech Im hearing about?

Im surprised this wasnt a bigger deal, as it sounds like Trump was to blame, unless I missed his response

 

[Shadybiz]

Wait, is this the soldier in the congress speech Im hearing about?

Im surprised this wasnt a bigger deal, as it sounds like Trump was to blame, unless I missed his response

Yes, same soldier.

Apparently, since the bar is so low now, nobody is really paying attention to it...at least not as much as they would have been if Obama had done this, or if Trump's name was spelled H-I-L-L-A-R-Y. He simply blamed the generals yesterday, which I guess is probably why even more are leaking that no substantial intelligence was gathered on the raid.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Wait, is this the soldier in the congress speech Im hearing about?

Im surprised this wasnt a bigger deal, as it sounds like Trump was to blame, unless I missed his response

Yes, William Ryan Owens.

It's not a big deal because republicans in congress are self serving assholes.

 

[Flux]

Grieving by allowing yourself to be a prop for the man that sent your husband to die for no good reason.

She's looking for a book deal from what I heard on news radio.

 

[Suikoguy]

She's looking for a book deal from what I heard on news radio.

Perhaps she will fight back, a book deal on how Trump fucked up.
How can you do anything else after that shitshow?

 

[metalslimer]

She's looking for a book deal from what I heard on news radio.

If this is true, that's insanely scummy

 

[Flux]

If this is true, that's insanely scummy

No question.

Perhaps she will fight back, a book deal on how Trump fucked up.
How can you do anything else after that shitshow?

It's kind of going the other direction. She believes it was a just cause and that more operations/sacrifices must be made. For what I have no clue it's delusional at this point.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I'm not going to judge a loved one after losing their SO.

Especially if it's a situation where she voted for Trump and started to hear that her husband was killed for literally no reason other than ego or poor judgement.

The mind goes through a lot of things to protect itself, and lying to oneself is the first and best way to do so

 

[Kinyou]

I wonder what grade Trump will give himself for that

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

I'm not going to judge a loved one after losing their SO.

Especially if it's a situation where she voted for Trump and started to hear that her husband was killed for literally no reason other than ego or poor judgement.

The mind goes through a lot of things to protect itself, and lying to oneself is the first and best way to do so

Yup.

 

[Mariolee]

"No Significant Intelligence" would be a great name for a movie adaptation of this

That really should be the name of an entire biopic for the Trump Administration.

 

[Herr Schwarz]

I'm not going to judge a loved one after losing their SO.

Especially if it's a situation where she voted for Trump and started to hear that her husband was killed for literally no reason other than ego or poor judgement.

The mind goes through a lot of things to protect itself, and lying to oneself is the first and best way to do so

Lying to yourself and making the best of a bad situation. Plus the president owing you a favour.