sheeeeeeeeit. ballin.
joel berry is gonna build that class. he's actively recruiting the field.
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NCAA Men's College Basketball 2012-2013 Season |OT|
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sheeeeeeeeit. ballin.
joel berry is gonna build that class. he's actively recruiting the field.
Avinexus
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Yeah, just noticed the "GO CARDS" at the end of that post. Makes sense now.
He's a Louisville fan, of course he does.
(Luckily I have family connections to both schools and live in Cali so I root for both :lol)
Edit: beaten badly
even as a carolina fan i was very jealous of kentucky last year.
i enjoyed watching them a lot. i have no problem admitting that. i still wish we could've played them again though.
Yeah, UNC/UK was destined to happen until fucking Creighton of all teams derailed our dreams
Thug ass Blue Jays.Yeah, UNC/UK was destined to happen until fucking Creighton of all teams derailed our dreams
Creighton :lol what a lame way for Marshall to get hurt.Yeah, UNC/UK was destined to happen until fucking Creighton of all teams derailed our dreams
TheNatural
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I'm never jealous of teams like that, or teams like Syracuse with Carmello, which was miniscule compared to now. When I think of UNC I think of 3 and 4 year guys, guys like Hansborough and Jordan, guys who stayed to win the title. I can't imagine just watching a team put together on the fly for nothing more than a minor league gapstop to the pros. We've only had two early entry draft picks in like almost 20 years, and are up there in either first or second all time in 1,000 point scorers with you guys.
Even if it lowers our chances to win a title, I still wouldn't trade that for running guys in and out every year. It devalues even watching the game. It's one of the bigger reasons I can't understand anyone watching the NBA these days. Guys jump teams like it's a bodily function.
I'm not such a romantic about these things. I like winning too much to be anything but a cynic.
TheNatural
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I don't think you have to be a classical fan wishing for the good ole days to think that kind of roster turnover is ridiculous. UNC has had about as much pure talent as anyone the past decade with its own share of doners, but it seems like you guys have a nice mix constantly. I just can't imagine "ok new year, now root for these guys we just got." If you're going to follow sports and be an actual fan, what's the functional difference between doing that and just choosing to root for a new team each year? I couldn't stand it.
What IU is doing is great, because so many of those guys were there in really shitty down times and improved and have become rock solid because of it. That's what's great about this sport.
To be fair, not every single player on UK last year was like that. The three freshmen were, but Terrence Jones, Doron Lamb, and Darius Miller were all returning players. Hell, Darius was a senior from the Billy G days straight out of Maysville, Kentucky.
After this year though, it'll be interesting to see what Calipari does going forward. Is the mediocrity just from a bad batch of freshmen or is it a lack of upper classmen leadership?
After this year though, it'll be interesting to see what Calipari does going forward. Is the mediocrity just from a bad batch of freshmen or is it a lack of upper classmen leadership?
TheNatural
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Jones and Lamb stayed ... two years. My apologies.
Haha, hey two years is more than one!
TheNatural
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HOLY SHIT Siva haha.
If Cincy is going to hit bullshit though, right back at ya fuckers.
If Cincy is going to hit bullshit though, right back at ya fuckers.
TJ Verboten
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It's just the part of beating every team you've faced that's appealing. Not the 1 and done factory that Calipari has established (though I dont begrudge him for making his program the place for one and dones, he's certainly the best at that).
But I do much prefer Crean's approach. Getting 3-4 year guys, with maybe 1 or 2 guys that would turn pro after one/two years, provides nice stability and allows the fan base to develop more of a connection with the players + seeing them grow and improve. Oladipo's career arc for instance....hard to imagine that happening at UK since they by and large get ready made players (their team's struggles this year not withstanding).
I greatly appreciate the way Crean rebuilt the program from the bottom up. He didn't take shortcuts with academic risks/juco's by and large....stuck to guys that would be 3-4 year players, establish the culture, etc. It took till the 4th year (and Cody Zeller) to put IU back into relevancy, but it's impressive given the mess he inherited from Sampson and the NCAA.
The rebuild would have happened sooner had Kyrie Irving come or had Maurice Creek not gotten hurt. In any case, I'm certainly more than pleased with where they are now.
To have two academic all-americans (Zeller and Hulls...with Oladipo close) coupled with the hard work the players + coaches have put into building the program back up, it's great.
Randolph Freelander
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Randolph Freelander
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Not the first time I've heard or read him say that. They lost 2 of their first 3 without Kelly, including getting rolled at Miami by 27.
It might seem outlandish, it certainly does to me, but consider for a moment:
- They're 12-4 in the league.
- They almost lost at Boston College
- Were in a close game at Wake Forest, tied with 3 minutes to go
- Could have lost to UNC at home
- Could have lost to Miami again on Saturday
They're literally a few plays away from being 8-8 right now in the ACC. Does a .500 team in the ACC make the tournament? Not likely.
chris121580
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I'd be totally ok not having to play Butler again this season. They're always dangerous in the tournament even if they are slipping up lately
KU has the most Top 50 wins this year. If ISU crawls back in (was at 53), we would have two more.
TheNatural
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Big win. Now to get revenge versus Notre Dame Saturday. We're starting to roll at the right time.
Coach K trolls everyone. I regretted going into douchebag fan mode (no doubt it was douchebag fan mode) but man no player had outright angered me in 2 minutes like Mason did in that Miami game.
He needs to have his shit straight for us to have a chance. I'd rather he just play smart than drop 20 & 10 (but I'll take that too)
A 9-9 Duke or NCSU would have made the tourney.
Randolph Freelander
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Duke, yeah, maybe. NC State, probably not. Didn't beat anybody out of conference.
Either way, it's moot. Neither are going to be 9-9. State might get to 10-8, though, and that would be interesting to see. I think ACC teams are going to need to be a minimum of 11-7. Hear that, Terps? You're done.
They beat UConn. If State's an 8 seed, dropping their last 3 would drop them to a 12 I think (would include 2 WTF losses). I think State's going to end up a 7 personally, 6 possible if they make it to Saturday of ACCT, 5 if they win it. The tourney takes injuries into consideration, and losing Lorenzo Brown for 3 games probably cost them 2 wins in those games (though it helped get Tyler Lewis into the mix which they needed, so it wasn't all bad). This is also why I think Duke will get a 1, Ryan Kelly is back.
Dreams-Visions
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I wonder what Michigan has to do to get back in the #1 seed discussion. Beat Indiana in the season finale and win the B1G tournament is probably required at this point, no?
bucknuticus
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Pretty much, and I think would have to hope the B1G champ game is them playing IU again.
That at least but I just don't think they have enough left on the schedule.
Big game tonight and I imagine Assembly Hall will be crazy. The students always get pumped for big games but having a senior night for three guys that have done a lot to get Indiana back to this point will probably make it even more crazy.
In the media Q&A Deshaun Thomas said IU was the second loudest place he has played in behind Kansas but I imagine that will change tonight.
bucknuticus
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Thad has said the loudest was Purdue in 2010 or something. Prepare for sadness tonight IU fans! We're going to shit all over your senior night!
If you play anything like last time and all we have to do is stop Deshaun, I don't see OSU standing a chance. In a perfect world Hulls and Watford go off and hit every shot they put up and that means raining threes. In reality Hulls plays average and Watford hides under a rock for the whole game.
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TheNatural
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Conference tourneys have officially begun!
Winthrop and Radford kicking things off in the Big South tourney WITH THEIR SEASONS ON THE LINE.
I'm going to find a way to watch some of these games. Big South is basically assured of a 16 or 15 seed.
EDIT: Nevermind. $79.99 for an "annual" Big South subscription.
Winthrop and Radford kicking things off in the Big South tourney WITH THEIR SEASONS ON THE LINE.
I'm going to find a way to watch some of these games. Big South is basically assured of a 16 or 15 seed.
EDIT: Nevermind. $79.99 for an "annual" Big South subscription.
bucknuticus
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Hopefully we dont, I really dont think we win but it will be a closer game than last time.
TheNatural
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LOL. Has a college coach ever went back to the same place he coached after quitting? That may be a first.
Brian Fellows
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Glossing over that @Purdue game are we?
I don't think he was glossing over anything. Beating Purdue is not something that will help us in any way. Losing will only hurt us.
I want to see High Point win because by dad got to play there briefly until they found out he was ineligible.
I think we match up well with OSU but it might be tougher than many expect since we played a pretty good game at OSU. We don't always make all those shots.
Also, this article today was pretty interesting. Bob Knight's the one who started the Candy-Stripe pants thing at IU the first year he was here because he thought they looked cool.
This is from the era where Bobby Knight wore cool plaid suits like this
instead of the boring sweaters
http://www.lostlettermen.com/why-does-indiana-wear-candy-striped-pants/
perfectchaos007
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Looks like USC will get their former coach Tim Floyd back, and he'll probably bring a top recruit ( Isaac Hamilton) along with him.
That's Jordan Hamilton brother.
perfectchaos007
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I know. sucks that he never considered UT, but apparently Jordan didn't exactly have high praise for Rick Barnes. Then again, who does?
Randolph Freelander
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Larry Shyatt left Wyoming to go to Clemson, sued Wyoming to get out of his contract buyout, later got fired at Clemson, got rehired at Wyoming a few years later.
Another one I'm familiar with is Mike Dement, who left UNC-Greensboro to go to SMU. Resigned after a few unsuccessful seasons, returned to UNCG. Resigned again last season, now works at Burger King. Not sure about that last part.
Hasphat'sAnts
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When Mason Plumlee knows what he wants to do and commits to that play he looks pretty special.
It's just too bad he never knows what to do.
It's just too bad he never knows what to do.
My theory is his girlfriend dumped him in some hardcore way. He just seems really mopey lately