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Neighbors Upset Over Couple's 'Up'-Themed Home Renovations

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Fuck what the neighbors think.

This is pretty incredible. The fact that these people are concerned with anyone's home besides their own is beyond absurd.
 

shuri

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I'm sure the kids won't get bored of it in 2-3 years. Hell, imagine when they'll invite their friends over during their teens years.. Not embarrassment at all.

Also here where I live, historical houses can't be modified in certain ways, tehre are tons of laws and regulation about this.
 
Common sense? If you buy a house, generally you're aware of whether or not there's a HOA.
If they own the house they should be able to paint it like they want. They're not drawing giant dicks on the side, it's just in technicolor. How is it common sense that this would cause an issue?
 

Stet

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If they own the house they should be able to paint it like they want. They're not drawing giant dicks on the side, it's just in technicolor. How is it common sense that this would cause an issue?

Again, HOAs are very specific. I'm not saying that the neighbours are in any way right, I'm saying that they've knowingly given themselves an extreme amount of hassle.
 
I think it looks great, but most Victorian houses in the area I grew up in are strange colors. The neighbors are just looking for something to complain about, shitty neighbors are going to be shitty.
 
depends on the municipal bylaws.

a nationalistic Greek painted his garage door like a Greek Flag in Pierrefonds, Montreal, Qc. The city fined him and told him to remove it. The city made the right call
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http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=a632a80a-ff76-4b7e-96db-5d83cc62d437

When you live in a municipality, you must adhere to the municipal code. you can't decide to paint whatever on your property.

If every member of hosuehold painted their garage doors however they wanted, it would be retarded
 

Replicant

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Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch. How about you mind your own God-damned business, nosy neighbors?

Why is it some people always try to tell others what they should do with their lives instead of minding their own business?
 

slit

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Again, HOAs are very specific. I'm not saying that the neighbours are in any way right, I'm saying that they've knowingly given themselves an extreme amount of hassle.

Where does the article mention anything about a HOA?
 
There has to be some kind of bizarre pathology involved when people have kids and start living their lives completely for those kids.

It's called Parental Brain. It is almost literally a rewiring of the brain so that parents feel inclined to care for their offspring.

It's basically nature's version of Stockholm Syndrome.



It is also completely normal, not "bizarre pathology".
 

V_Arnold

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if it devalues the neighbor's house, it is a problem

That is not a rabbit hole you want to go into, seriously.
You have financial options available to not "devaluate" your house: buy all your neighboring houses*. Otherwise, that is a risk you will just have to live with.

*And then you can worry about the neighbors of those houses as well! Is not life fun when you buy stuff to keep value, instead of trying to use them for their originally intended purpose?
 

Stet

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Where does the article mention anything about a HOA?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=109926040&postcount=10


It's called Parental Brain. It is almost literally a rewiring of the brain so that parents feel inclined to care for their offspring.

It's basically nature's version of Stockholm Syndrome.



It is also completely normal, not "bizarre pathology".

I'm not talking about normal things like somehow finding your baby's poop doesn't smell that bad. I'm talking about repainting your entire house for what will probably be three months of fun, six months of interest, and then boredom, not to mention the neighbourhood hassles.
 

Dash27

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It's ugly but... it's their house. So tough.

Now granted if it's reducing the property value of the neighbors homes that blows.
 

SmokyDave

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If they parked an old banger on the driveway and had an uncut lawn, it'd "devalue" the neighbors house, I guess, but you can't control everything in the world.
Here in the UK, you can control how people decorate / renovate properties of historical interest. It seems that the National Register of Historic Places in the US is mostly a symbolic thing and that local HOAs are the ones that set the rules. It also seems this property hasn't technically broken the rules, so they're in the clear. The concept isn't all that preposterous though.
 
I'm not talking about normal things like somehow finding your baby's poop doesn't smell that bad. I'm talking about repainting your entire house for what will probably be three months of fun, six months of interest, and then boredom, not to mention the neighbourhood hassles.

And I'm telling you that being rewired to completely live for your children is completely normal. The brain basically gets focused on children to the almost exclusion of "others", which most certainly includes bitchy neighbours.

Besides, it's paint. It's not like it can't be repainted, and I'm pretty sure you're talking about a couple days of work for a professional crew.
 

slit

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Here in the UK, you can control how people decorate / renovate properties of historical interest. It seems that the National Register of Historic Places in the US is mostly a symbolic thing and that local HOAs are the ones that set the rules. It also seems this property hasn't technically broken the rules, so they're in the clear. The concept isn't all that preposterous though.

It is, there is nothing stopping someone from changing a historical landmark if they own it.
 

Mael

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Feel sorry for the couple for having such fucking shitty neighbours.

This.
It's none of their business,
if it becomes a tourist attraction and up the property value of their shitty houses, the neighbors will be more than happy that they decided to do that paint job.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
What a bunch of douches. It may be a bit unorthodox but it still rather well done. The HOA should be about maintaining a respectable level of care for the houses and property so you don't have overgrown grass and foliage or worn down houses with broken shit and pealing paint all over looking run down and shitty. It's so people don't have junker cars on their front lawns and trash everywhere. It's not to be uptight assholes who give people who take care of their homes shit because you don't like their color scheme.

It's not like they gutted the house and threw on vinyl siding and added some ridiculous addition to the house and made it into some Mcmansion. They painted it, it can always be repainted in the future and no one will be the wiser.
 

Goodlife

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Here in the UK, you can control how people decorate / renovate properties of historical interest. It seems that the National Register of Historic Places in the US is mostly a symbolic thing and that local HOAs are the ones that set the rules. It also seems this property hasn't technically broken the rules, so they're in the clear. The concept isn't all that preposterous though.

The amount of houses placed under the protection to are talking about are a tiny % of homes in the UK. Like proper tiny.
 

Stet

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And I'm telling you that being rewired to completely live for your children is completely normal. The brain basically gets focused on children to the almost exclusion of "others", which most certainly includes bitchy neighbours.

Besides, it's paint. It's not like it can't be repainted, and I'm pretty sure you're talking about a couple days of work for a professional crew.

I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. Not everyone goes to extreme lengths like this, but some people do, and I find it bizarre. I'm not talking about all parents. Most parents are completely normal.
 

SmokyDave

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Of course, here in the UK, Victorian is barely old enough to be noticeable :)
I did think that when I was looking up the neighbourhood. I've got socks older than that house.

It is, there is nothing stopping someone from changing a historical landmark if they own it.
Man, that's crazy. I guess people in a position to own historical landmarks are generally respectful of their properties though, for investment reasons if nothing else.

The amount of houses placed under the protection to are talking about are a tiny % of homes in the UK. Like proper tiny.
Half a million buildings according to the National Trust, though obviously houses won't make up a large proportion of that. The regulations are still there though.
 
I don't know if that's a HOA in the traditional sense and even if it is, it doesn't sound like they can do anything as the owners follwed the rules, it sounds like someone who issued permits messsed up. If that's the case, sucks for the uptight stuck-ups.

Historic preservation societies never have the teeth of an HOA unless they are well integrated into the city council, which it sounds like this one isn't. If an HOA was in play here, the house would have never made it to this point.
 

Vyer

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This.
It's none of their business,
if it becomes a tourist attraction and up the property value of their shitty houses, the neighbors will be more than happy that they decided to do that paint job.

Actually in that situation I'm not sure that would positively effect the property value of surrounding houses.

What a bunch of douches. It may be a bit unorthodox but it still rather well done. The HOA should be about maintaining a respectable level of care for the houses and property so you don't have overgrown grass and foliage or worn down houses with broken shit and pealing paint all over looking run down and shitty. It's so people don't have junker cars on their front lawns and trash everywhere. It's not to be uptight assholes who give people who take care of their homes shit because you don't like their color scheme.

It's not like they gutted the house and threw on vinyl siding and added some ridiculous addition to the house and made it into some Mcmansion. They painted it, it can always be repainted in the future and no one will be the wiser.

Yeah. I honestly don't think it looks that bad. I don't agree with the 'fuck the neighbors! We can do what we want!' crowd because there are situations where respect for the people around you is as important as minding your own business. But in this instance it just seems more like picky neighbors. However, if they moved into an area where this actually is addressed then it's fair that it becomes an issue I guess.
 

Goodlife

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I don't think you understand what I'm getting at. Not everyone goes to extreme lengths like this, but some people do, and I find it bizarre. I'm not talking about all parents. Most parents are completely normal.

I'd do it, no problems.
 

drspeedy

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...it sounds like there is one.

Neighbor Lou Faria, a member of the Old Quad Residents Association, told KNTV: "I don't think it fits in... It really, in my opinion, is atrocious that this Victorian is a gracious old lady and it's been painted up to look like a clown.”

Aside from the loud color scheme, neighborhood residents are also protesting the interior and exterior renovations the family is reportedly making to the home — replacing the porch, lifting the foundation of the home by 16 inches, and removing the elaborate banister on the grand staircase. According to Santa Clara historian Lorie Garcia, the couple is technically not breaking any rules, as long as they maintain the historical integrity of the home. But presently, the family’s specific plans are unclear — a situation that worries their neighbors, many of whom want to preserve the classic feeling of the street. “To be fair, when the family bought the home, it was in pretty poor condition,” Garcia tells Yahoo Shine. “However, to paint with colors like that …when I drove by, I felt like singing, ‘It’s a Small World.’”

Homeowners in the Old Quad neighborhood do not need a permit to repaint their houses, but in the case of renovations, they must apply for a permit by presenting their ideas to the city's Historical & Landmarks Commission at a meeting where neighbors within 300 feet of the home are given an opportunity to voice their opinions on how the changes will affect the neighborhood. However, in the case of the “Up” home, the family never took that step, and instead went straight to the city’s planning department, where they got the project approved and permits issued without consulting the commission. “In my 20-year career, I have never seen this happen,” says Garcia. “The city planner won’t give me a straight answer as to why no one consulted the neighborhood.”

Yahoo Shine could not reach city planner Steve Lynch for comment but according to Garcia, the Santa Clara city council will now form a committee to rewrite the preservation ordinance, going into more detail about how to approach color schemes for the neighborhood. Also, after the renovations are complete, the city will do a detailed inspection to determine whether the family has in fact, preserved the historical significance of the home.

Sounds like a Historical Preservation Society, not HOA. Big difference is that the city/town planners have the final authority rather than a group of homeowners in the neighborhood, although most of the approvals will still require some public opinion or a review by the historical preservation committee.... which is usually people who live in the area, so it's a formalized version of the same idea.


And there's a reason they always get nicknamed the "Hysterical Preservation Committee"
 

Enron

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Oh, gee, I don't know. Why do you think?

I agree with the neighbors somewhat. I don't think the house is an eyesore, but I do think it's unorthodox enough to affect the homes immediately surrounding it.

How would you like to be the owner trying to sell the house next door to that one?

Sure, you can do whatever you want with something that you own but you ought to be considerate of others around you as well.
 
Can anyone find a street view of this place? I can't even find the neighborhood on Google Maps. Curious to see how the rest of the houses look.

Also, for those that haven't read the full article, the owners have done a lot of internal changes that have the preservation society miffed.
 

slit

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Actually in that situation I'm not sure that would positively effect the property value of surrounding houses.

Too bad, life doesn't always bend to other's sense what is respectful and what isn't. There was no offense intended as far as I know, so they can live with it. There are things I find tacky in my neighborhood, but I don't cry about it because I want that freedom as well.
 

slit

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Historic preservation societies never have the teeth of an HOA unless they are well integrated into the city council, which it sounds like this one isn't. If an HOA was in play here, the house would have never made it to this point.

I know that, and if that was the case I wouldn't have any sympathy for the owners since they were stupid enough to live under a HOA.
 

Enron

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Too bad, life doesn't always bend to other's sense what is respectful and what isn't. There was no offense intended as far as I know, so they can live with it. There are things I find tacky in my neighborhood, but I don't cry about it because I want that freedom as well.

Yeah, until you have to lower the asking price by 25 or 50 grand on your 600k dollar home that you just paid 650k for 7 years ago because you aren't getting any interest
 

Vyer

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OK, maybe the house does look that bad....

Too bad, life doesn't always bend to other's sense what is respectful and what isn't. There was no offense intended as far as I know, so they can live with it. There are things I find tacky in my neighborhood, but I don't cry about it because I want that freedom as well.

What? I'm not sure what you are talking about. That sentence was in response to a hypothetical where the house becomes a tourist attraction and how that might effect property value.

As far as what you are saying, I generally agree with the sentiment, but real life is a little more complicated than that.
 
Oh, gee, I don't know. Why do you think?

I agree with the neighbors somewhat. I don't think the house is an eyesore, but I do think it's unorthodox enough to affect the homes immediately surrounding it.

How would you like to be the owner trying to sell the house next door to that one?

Sure, you can do whatever you want with something that you own but you ought to be considerate of others around you as well.

Is there any evidence that the colour of your neighbours house significantly affects property value?
 
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