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Neighbors Upset Over Couple's 'Up'-Themed Home Renovations

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slit

Member
OK, maybe the house does look that bad....



What? I'm not sure what you are talking about. That sentence was in response to a hypothetical where the house becomes a tourist attraction and how that might effect property value.

As far as what you are saying, I generally agree with the sentiment, but real life is a little more complicated than that.

No not really, this particular case is pretty straighforward.
 

slit

Member
Yeah, until you have to lower the asking price by 25 or 50 grand on your 600k dollar home that you just paid 650k for 7 years ago because you aren't getting any interest

Please don't tell me what I'd cry about. That's a risk everybody takes when they own a home and are not under a HOA.
 
On one hand, it sounds like the neighbors are being upppity jerks.

On the other hand, while the idea of painting your house to look like the one from "Up" is awesome (imo), god DAMN did they do the worst job possible. They really should have matched the tone and value of the paints they were using to what they were modeling it after; they did a terrible job and made the colors all super saturated pastel shades and OMG CLOWN VOMIT!
 

daycru

Member
These are homes of families. A goddamn children's cartoon set is suddenly magic wand'd into existence. What the fuck?
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
I think it looks great, but most Victorian houses in the area I grew up in are strange colors. The neighbors are just looking for something to complain about, shitty neighbors are going to be shitty.

Seriously, the two victorian homes in my neighborhood were sky blue and this garish pink color
 

Zoe

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Also, for those that haven't read the full article, the owners have done a lot of internal changes that have the preservation society miffed.

Yeah:

Aside from the loud color scheme, neighborhood residents are also protesting the interior and exterior renovations the family is reportedly making to the home — replacing the porch, lifting the foundation of the home by 16 inches, and removing the elaborate banister on the grand staircase.

If it had just been the paint job then there'd nothing that could be done, but somehow they were allowed to skip the steps required for obtaining permits on the renovations, and those renovations are things that will affect the rest of the neighborhood.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
the owners of the house:
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other houses nearby that look like they could benefit from a paint job themselves:
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the context:
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the video these images were extracted from:
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Old-Victorian-in-Santa-Clara-Remodeled-to-Resemble-Home-in-Movie-Up-Sparks-Controversy-256800571.html

God damn that neighborhood is ugly. Those neighbors have no right to complain with the shitty condition they keep their homes in.
 
Yeah:



If it had just been the paint job then there'd nothing that could be done, but somehow they were allowed to skip the steps required for obtaining permits on the renovations, and those renovations are things that will affect the rest of the neighborhood.

How do internal changes to a neighbours house affect property values? This is crazy.
 
Yeah, until you have to lower the asking price by 25 or 50 grand on your 600k dollar home that you just paid 650k for 7 years ago because you aren't getting any interest

You're making shit up now. If I was in the market for a home, the dumb paint job on the neighbors house wouldn't be a big concern for me. I have a bigger problem when they don't take care of their lawn and have junk in their yard. An unappealing paint job on an otherwise well kept home isn't that big of a deal.
 

bmo

Neo Member
This doesn't appear to be a "homeowner association" in the typical sense. From their website: "If you live in the general area and are interested in a social group of folks who care about the City they live in...." http://www.oldquad.org/oqra/

This is why the city is now involved. It's just a club comprised of a "Social group of folks that care...." They can't do shit.

"we intend to continue to create a strong sense of neighborhood identity, of belonging...," unless you paint your house like a Pixar movie. Then you can fuck right off.

I can't wait for the family to tie off huge colorful weather balloons to the roof.
 
Looking at their neighbors houses posted here, the rebellious house is so pastel it barely stands out.

I would have went with something with a higher saturation.

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xenist

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That neighborhood looks like the kind of place one goes to buy drugs. They could use a paint job and some landscaping.
 
They own the house, they want it to look that way and it looks great.

No issue here whatsoever. I'd be happy to have them as neighbours and for them to give me an Up house!
 

Number_6

Member
Nosy neighbors shut the fuck up and mind your business. Keep your own houses from looking like dusty old granny shacks, then maybe you'll have the right to judge--silently.

Actually in that situation I'm not sure that would positively effect the property value of surrounding houses.

I think you meant to use 'affect'.

But it obviously has had an affect on them...?

I think you meant to use 'effect'.

edit: Yes, I realize I said the neighbors should stfu, then proceeded to grammar nazi.
 

maxcriden

Member
Nosy neighbors shut the fuck up and mind your business. Keep your own houses from looking like dusty old granny shacks, then maybe you'll have the right to judge--silently.



I think you meant to use 'affect'.



I think you meant to use 'effect'.

edit: Yes, I realize I said the neighbors should stfu, then proceeded to grammar nazi.


Youre grammer corrections will likely have minimal imffect here.
 

Tiktaalik

Member
This is an ironic criticism because from my experience lots of old victorian homes were brightly coloured with many different colours.

I guess it could be different in this town, but its not necessarily out of place.
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
Their house is the best looking one on the street judging from the video. All of the other houses look like they are falling apart!
 

Takuan

Member
I understand that exterior appearances can affect property values and the neighborhood "theme" or whatever, but they're protesting interior changes, too? The things people get upset over...
 

Zoe

Member
I understand that exterior appearances can affect property values and the neighborhood "theme" or whatever, but they're protesting interior changes, too? The things people get upset over...

Only one of the three renovations are for the interior.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Those houses were originally painted in very lurid hues. Google "painted ladies Victorian houses" for examples.

This house is ironically more historically accurate than the neighbors '.
 

Risible

Member
I seriously hate neighbors who don't mind their fuckin business.

Spoken like someone who has never lived near an asshole/slob.

Neighbors who don't give a shit about their neighbors suck balls. I'm not saying you have to conform to every social norm, but why buy in a neighborhood that you know isn't going to like what you'rem doing? You want an "Up" house, buy a house in a neighborhood that isn't full of historical homes. Go buy a house in an area where the houses are far apart. No one will give a shit about your whimsical house project then.

(note : I like the house and think it's cool. I also like people who respect their neighbors, though.)
 
It's a stupid fucking eyesore, I could see being aggravated by having to look at it every day.

That being said, they own the house, they can do whatever they want with it. The neighbors have no right to tell them what they can or can't do.

All the shacks there are eyesores though =\
 

Camp Lo

Banned
Since they didn't go through the proper channels, I can see why people would feel a certain way about this. It's definitely an eyesore.
 

Az

Member
House looks okay, they could have done better. I wouldn't have a problem with it, honestly.

Having shitty neighbors sucks though. I am lucky and have no major issues at my house, but friends tell me their horror stories all the time. One of buddies neighbor would climb up on the fence and take pictures of whatever my friend was working on in his back yard. In pain sight, not even being sneaky about it.
 

bigfurb

Member
Do some of you really find it to be that much of an eyesore? Maybe it's cause I'm Bermudian and I'm used to homes being painted in pastel colours, but I think it looks much better than the surrounding properties
 

nel e nel

Member
Thing is, 'completely disrespectful' is relative. I'd imagine the complaining neighbours consider this house completely disrespectful to the aesthetics of the neighbourhood.

Does the US have the equivalent of 'listed buildings'?

Yes, historic districts, which is what this particular neighborhood is, from my understanding:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_districts_in_the_United_States

The U.S. federal government designates historic districts through the United States Department of Interior under the auspices of the National Park Service. Federally designated historic districts are listed on the National Register of Historic Places, but listing imposes no restrictions on what property owners may do with a designated property. State-level historic districts may follow similar criteria (no restrictions) or may require adherence to certain historic rehabilitation standards. Local historic district designation offers, by far, the most legal protection for historic properties because most land use decisions are made at the local level. Local districts are generally administered by the county or municipal government.

As far as the other houses looking drab, well, if they are being 'authentic' about it, then they are probably painting them in colors that would have been standard for 200 years ago.
 
Is there any evidence that the colour of your neighbours house significantly affects property value?

Property Value is tricky to quantify because it's largely based on fad popularity. However the color of a house can very much have influence on neighboring homes property value simply because people would be less likely to buy a house in a neighborhood with an eyesore. Whether or not the paint on the house in question is an eyesore is subjective, but generally such a wild color scheme wouldn't be attractive to very many people in the US. It varies depending on are of the US as well.

This is why every year there are news stories about neighbors being pissed off about a homes extravagant Christmas Lights display in one area while places like Candy Cane Lane are celebrated. Just depends on who lives in the area and what they think.
 

Octavia

Unconfirmed Member
Do some of you really find it to be that much of an eyesore? Maybe it's cause I'm Bermudian and I'm used to homes being painted in pastel colours, but I think it looks much better than the surrounding properties

Some of those other people seriously need to repaint their houses. If your paint if peeling and you can see the wood behind it, please repaint it, it's time.

It looks better than the others because of this.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
You're making shit up now. If I was in the market for a home, the dumb paint job on the neighbors house wouldn't be a big concern for me. I have a bigger problem when they don't take care of their lawn and have junk in their yard. An unappealing paint job on an otherwise well kept home isn't that big of a deal.

To hell he is, he's dead right, a neighbor that does that to there house does directly affect your ability to sell your home at a given price. Just because it's not a concern for you does not mean it doesn't affect buyers who actually care what the surrounding area looks like. I had to sell my house for 10k less that I wanted to because the neighbors 3 bourses down let there house fall to shit and have created a very negative vibe at the top of the neighborhood. When people comment to there realitors that they love the home but are concerned about the surrounding properties, that's when you know your neighbors lack of care is negatively affecting your investment.

You don't drop your life savings on a house in a neighborhood that has houses painted like clowns, it sets a bad vibe. You can change your house all you want, but you can't do a thing about the ugly neighbor houses around you. Location location location. You can change everything else about a house, just not that.
 

mm04

Member
It looks like they're one of the few families in that neighborhood who actually care what their houses look like. A shabby, rundown looking house is much worse than a brightly colored one. Pick your weeds off your front yard before complaining.
 
To hell he is, he's dead right, a neighbor that does that to there house does directly affect your ability to sell your home at a given price. Just because it's not a concern for you does not mean it doesn't affect buyers who actually care what the surrounding area looks like. I had to sell my house for 10k less that I wanted to because the neighbors 3 bourses down let there house fall to shit and have created a very negative vibe at the top of the neighborhood. When people comment to there realitors that they love the home but are concerned about the surrounding properties, that's when you know your neighbors lack of care is negatively affecting your investment.

You don't drop your life savings on a house in a neighborhood that has houses painted like clowns, it sets a bad vibe. You can change your house all you want, but you can't do a thing about the ugly neighbor houses around you. Location location location. You can change everything else about a house, just not that.

It's not that it sets a bad vibe, it's the neighborhood in general that decides that. Were all the houses in that neighborhood painted similarly, then it wouldn't have an adverse effect on Property Values because it would attract people who liked that type of color scheme. As it is though, the rest of the neighborhood would likely attract buyers who like a more traditional historic look and thus that particular house effects things negatively.

It's similar, but inherently different than a single house that isn't taken care of/falling into ruin because it's just a color rather than disrepair. A lime green car may be marginally harder to sell than a black or white car but it's still infinitely easier to sell than a car that's rusted out and won't run.
 
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