Neil Blomkamp's Alien film a direct sequel to Aliens; disregards Alien 3/Resurrection

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Tevious said:
Wow. I just saw this now for the first time. I'm in the minority that actually likes Alien 3. Yeah, it was dumb with how everyone died at first, but it was still a good film. I guess I'm okay with this, if it turns out to be good.

I wish Sony would have done this and made a sequel to Spider-Man 2 that ignored SM3, rather than rebooting it.
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That was the plan actually but Sam Raimi was being a little bitch.

""It really was the most amicable and undramatic of breakups: It was simply that we had a deadline and I couldn't get the story to work on a level that I wanted it to work. I was very unhappy with Spider-Man 3, and I wanted to make Spider-Man 4 to end on a very high note, the best Spider-Man of them all. But I couldn't get the script together in time, due to my own failings, and I said to Sony, "I don't want to make a movie that is less than great, so I think we shouldn't make this picture. Go ahead with your reboot, which you've been planning anyway." And [Sony co-chairman] Amy Pascal said, "Thank you. Thank you for not wasting the studio's money, and I appreciate your candor." So we left on the best of terms, both of us trying to do the best thing for fans, the good name of Spider-Man, and Sony Studios."
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http://spiderman.wikia.com/wiki/Spider-Man_4_(cancelled_film)
 
Hero_of_the_Day said:
His actual quote:



Essentially he's saying he didn't set out to erase those movies, but his is going to be a sequel to Aliens. Essentially, it's completely pointless semantics. His movie will be ignoring 3 and 4. He just wants the world to know that's not what he set out to do, but that is what he's doing.
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Again, the idea of cryogeneic sleep induced nightmare as a way of skipping over Alien 3 and 4 seems plausible with that quote! Ripley wakes up on the ship and sees Newt and Hicks also there. Unfreezes them and tells Hicks about the nightmare.
 
RustyNails said:
Again, the idea of cryogeneic sleep induced nightmare as a way of skipping over Alien 3 and 4 seems plausible with that quote!
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That would be a ridiculous notion to pursue though. Blomkamp has questionable skills as a writer, but I can't even imagine that he'd try to pull that hokey shit. If anything just won't acknowledge the two movies at all, and pick up straight from ALIENS' ending, but 30 years later, like ALIENS picked up from ALIEN, but 54 years later.
 
Badenergytroll said:
That was the plan actually but Sam Raimi was being a little bitch.

""It really was the most amicable and undramatic of breakups: It was simply that we had a deadline and I couldn't get the story to work on a level that I wanted it to work. I was very unhappy with Spider-Man 3, and I wanted to make Spider-Man 4 to end on a very high note, the best Spider-Man of them all. But I couldn't get the script together in time, due to my own failings, and I said to Sony, "I don't want to make a movie that is less than great, so I think we shouldn't make this picture. Go ahead with your reboot, which you've been planning anyway." And [Sony co-chairman] Amy Pascal said, "Thank you. Thank you for not wasting the studio's money, and I appreciate your candor." So we left on the best of terms, both of us trying to do the best thing for fans, the good name of Spider-Man, and Sony Studios."
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http://spiderman.wikia.com/wiki/Spider-Man_4_(cancelled_film)
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That would have been a sequel to Spider-Man 3, though, right? I mean making a new film that replaces SM3, ignoring everything that happens in it completely. That seems to be what they're doing with this new Alien film. Or they could do something like X-Men: Days of Future Past did to X-Men III: The Last Stand and retcon the events of SM3 somehow.
 
Heading to Monsterpalooza this weekend in burbank california. Its a horror show... grreat news though some of the guests will be cool;

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honerable mentions;

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!!!!!

My Aliens collection will be closer to complete..
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Can try to get some autographed photos for gaf members, PM? I think its like 20-30 bux. ( is this ok mods?)
 
Ask Mark Rolston how come he gets a bunch of acid in the face and immediately dies, but Biehn gets a bunch of acid all over his upper body and gets to star in Blomkamp's fan-film
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Ask Mark Rolston how come he gets a bunch of acid in the face and immediately dies, but Biehn gets a bunch of acid all over his upper body and gets to star in Blomkamp's fan-film
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Well, they did just leave Drake there after he took the acid bath. We don't know for sure that he died immediately. Maybe he burned to death after spewing fire everywhere with the flame thrower. We do know he didn't survive long enough to be cocooned though.
 
Wait, why is Margot Kidder at Monsterpalooza?

What horror film am I forgetting here?

(there are at least 30 super-fuckin-obvious jokes that I'm trying to sidestep as I ask this question)
 
Noisepurge said:
oh come on guys :D

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Biehn is old now, and if the story goes that they spent 30 years in malfunctioning cryosleep chambers and wake up now, the acidface would be pretty much like that combined with his old droopy skin? :D



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Didn't recognise him. Do people really think he'll come back for this film, has he been in anything decent since The Rock ?
 
jelly said:
Didn't recognise him. Do people really think he'll come back for this film, has he been in anything decent since The Rock ?
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His instagram has "doing my 'I used to be famous' routine" as a joke, so he's fine with it.

Also: BLOOD DRAGON. Seriously, how do you not know that? That thing was Fan Servicus Maximus, and it was glorious.

@margot kidder and horror above:
The Amityville Horror and some more recent movies like Halloween II, apparently.

And for the record, I don't understand the need to 'fix' Alien 3 either. 4: YES, With maximum effort to erase it from time itself. But 3? No. It's a fine movie. Fans are all 'bu-bu-bu' about that one and the production may have been a disaster, but the movie itself is fine. It's not AVP Requim, that other "oh god why did Fox okay this" sequel. Fox has been doing this "let's make a sequel nobody wants" for a long time.
Honestly, I have little faith in Blomkamp's writing ability (though that may be Sony's fault with that ********* meerkat), but I wish him the best of luck in getting it somewhat right. If W.S. Anderson could get one right (yes, the first AVP is a decent movie considering the source material), there should be no particular reason why Blomkamp couldn't either. Well, one can hope anyway.

Though personally I would do away with the queen-thing entirely. The best part about Alien Isolation is that they completely avoided that trap of 'oh hey, that thing I've killed a dozen times in a different games already' by focussing on one alien instead of a horde of them. I love AVP classic and the second AVP game as much as anyone (perhaps a bit more actually, kind of big ass nerd here), but the "shoot the core / queen" mechanism has run its course. Just my opinion, but the love for Isolation is there for a reason.
 
Zeitgeister said:
His instagram has "doing my 'I used to be famous' routine" as a joke, so he's fine with it.

Also: BLOOD DRAGON. Seriously, how do you not know that? That thing was Fan Servicus Maximus, and it was glorious.
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Yeah, did good voice work there. I'm thinking more films and TV.
 
It's odd. I love Alien and absolutely dread the prospect of this film being produced. Meanwhile, I'm very lukewarm on Blade Runner and am incredibly interested in the sequel.

I guess it has to do with my level of investment... more to lose with the Alien franchise (though it's hard to imagine this franchise stooping any lower). Still, this is a terrible idea. Hopefully it's not too late to reverse course.
 
jtb said:
It's odd. I love Alien and absolutely dread the prospect of this film being produced. Meanwhile, I'm very lukewarm on Blade Runner and am incredibly interested in the sequel.

I guess it has to do with my level of investment... more to lose with the Alien franchise (though it's hard to imagine this franchise stooping any lower). Still, this is a terrible idea. Hopefully it's not too late to reverse course.
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I don't honestly see how there's more to lose with a new Alien movie. There have been bad Alien movies. There's only one Blade Runner.
 
I feel much more confident in the Blade Runner sequel given that Hampton Fancher (original BR screenwriter) is on board, and of course Villeneuve is a great director with very strong recent films (Enemy, Prisoners, Incendies).
 
inm8num2 said:
I feel much more confident in the Blade Runner sequel given that Hampton Fancher (original BR screenwriter) is on board, and of course Villeneuve is a great director with very strong recent films (Enemy, Prisoners, Incendies).
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Yeah, the Blade Runner sequel, as frightening a proposition as that may sound on the surface, appears to have way more upside than whatever this thing might possibly turn out to be, considering.

Also, I'd forgotten that weird turn the discussion with Deck'ard took. That's still sorta mystifying.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
Yeah, the Blade Runner sequel, as frightening a proposition as that may sound on the surface, appears to have way more upside than whatever this thing might possibly turn out to be, considering.

Also, I'd forgotten that weird turn the discussion with Deck'ard took. That's still sorta mystifying.
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Oh hello.

That's probably because you don't discuss, in your own words you "rebut". You don't engage with people in good faith, and the way you edit down conversations to best frame why you are right at the expense of what they are trying to say is needlessly combative and impacts the actual discussion.

As does your tendency to generalise about posters and the worth of their opinions. Usually exaggerating the position and belittling those who hold it for the sake of some masturbatory prose.

I'd rather evoke a feeling of weird and mystifying than downright infuriating.
 
DECK'ARD said:
I'd rather evoke a feeling of weird and mystifying than downright infuriating.
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You're doing a good job, then.

You're really hung up on the way I quote, as if it somehow actually eradicates large amounts of the words I read and the words you typed. It doesn't. You know what you wrote, I know what I read. It's not a debate tactic or whatever. It's not a means to unfairly dismiss anything you're saying. There's like, five different instances where I essentially agree with your position, or at least go so far as to not only validate what you said but express understanding as to why you hold that opinion. So I'm unsure where the accusations of not arguing in good faith are coming from. How is it not good faith to acknowledge, understand, and even agree with large swaths of the position you're holding?

You took a hard left, a really hard left into assholery out of nowhere, basically, and it still doesn't make sense. Disagreeing about ALIEN shouldn't be cause for you to have gone the way you went, especially since the disagreement, on my part, wasn't even severe, or mean-spirited, or condescending, or any of those things. I didn't try to denigrate your position, or suggest you as a person were somehow defective for holding those opinions. None of that. We both really enjoy the movie, we both put a lot of thought into it, and up until you took that hard left, I thought we both were having an okay time discussing our different viewpoints on how and why it worked.

And yet here you are, still shitting on me, personally, with a conception of what I was doing that, if you go back and re-read, doesn't seem to have much of a basis in any sort of reality.

If you want to be weird and mystifying - you got it, man. You're doing a bang-up job at incomprehensible unfairness.
 
So I read that latest news piece, I wonder if the bit that Ridley Asked him to remove was stuff about the Derelict.

I've been thinking that Prometheus 2 will probably feature the derelict in some capacity.
 
RoyaleDuke said:
I've been thinking that Prometheus 2 will probably feature the derelict in some capacity.
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I'm still unsure it'll actually happen, but are you thinking that if we do get a Prometheus 2, it'll basically end with another horseshoe ship bailing off the engineer planet, and that's the one that finally crash-lands on LV-426?
 
BobbyRoberts said:
I'm still unsure it'll actually happen, but are you thinking that if we do get a Prometheus 2, it'll basically end with another horseshoe ship bailing off the planet, and that's the one that finally crash-lands on LV-426?
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I'm thinking that the second film will basically either be all on a horse shoe ship(juggernaut or whatever, I prefer to call them derelicts), or half of it on the engineer homeworld with a bunch of weird fucked up scenery and monsters, and then somehow it all leads back to the Egg, the derelict, and the original space jockey on the ship.

Then the third movie could be Weyland(the company) finding the derelict and sending a team there to investigate, them getting annihilated by the Space Jockey xeno, and then the end of that film bookends into the beginning of ALIEN proper.

Personally, I'd love some kind of arthouse psychadelic horror film set on the homeworld+ship. Just license Giger's biomechanical landscapes and bam. Instant great horror film, maybe even throw Gutalin a bone.
 
BobbyRoberts said:
You're doing a good job, then.

You're really hung up on the way I quote, as if it somehow actually eradicates large amounts of the words I read and the words you typed. It doesn't. You know what you wrote, I know what I read. It's not a debate tactic or whatever. It's not a means to unfairly dismiss anything you're saying. There's like, five different instances where I essentially agree with your position, or at least go so far as to not only validate what you said but express understanding as to why you hold that opinion. So I'm unsure where the accusations of not arguing in good faith are coming from. How is it not good faith to acknowledge, understand, and even agree with large swaths of the position you're holding?

You took a hard left, a really hard left into assholery out of nowhere, basically, and it still doesn't make sense. Disagreeing about ALIEN shouldn't be cause for you to have gone the way you went, especially since the disagreement, on my part, wasn't even severe, or mean-spirited, or condescending, or any of those things. I didn't try to denigrate your position, or suggest you as a person were somehow defective for holding those opinions. None of that. We both really enjoy the movie, we both put a lot of thought into it, and up until you took that hard left, I thought we both were having an okay time discussing our different viewpoints on how and why it worked.

And yet here you are, still shitting on me, personally, with a conception of what I was doing that, if you go back and re-read, doesn't seem to have much of a basis in any sort of reality.

If you want to be weird and mystifying - you got it, man. You're doing a bang-up job at incomprehensible unfairness.
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Yep, it's a complete mystery. I've never seen anyone else complain about or point out problems in how you engage with them or other forum members.

I'm obviously way off the mark, and this paragraph is so you can hopefully chop it off at the first comma, put "Yes" under it, and the conversation be halted.
 
DECK'ARD said:
I'm obviously way off the mark
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you are.

RoyaleDuke said:
I'm thinking that the second film will basically either be all on a horse shoe ship(juggernaut or whatever, I prefer to call them derelicts), or half of it on the engineer homeworld with a bunch of weird fucked up scenery and monsters, and then somehow it all leads back to the Egg, the derelict, and the original space jockey on the ship...

Personally, I'd love some kind of arthouse psychadelic horror film set on the homeworld+ship. Just license Giger's biomechanical landscapes and bam. Instant great horror film, maybe even throw Gutalin a bone.
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The only problem with going to the homeworld, and having that lead directly to ALIEN is that you'd probably have to show the classic xenomorph, and not the Deacon or whatever, and I'm not sure Ridley Scott wants to do that anymore.

But I agree that if whatever Prometheus 2 (should it happen) is, fucking going there and just being freakishly, Giger-ishly weird would be a good call.
 
First Dragonball Z is releasing a new series that ignores Dragonball GT out of canon, and now and new Aliens movie that will ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection out of canon? This damn good! They're finally gonna right the wrongs of the past!
 
I have a feeling that Chappie flopping has given Fox pause...

Still have heard nothing Prometheus 2, thank God. Fuck Ridley and fuck Lindelof.
 
CaptainAhab said:
Aliens was a worse Alien film than Alien 3.
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Are you fucking high? Aliens was a complete homage to what made 'Alien' a world worth exploring while giving it a shot in the arm action sequence wise. Alien 3 while not great but not terrible either was more character exposition than canon expanding. How you arrive at 'Aliens' being worse than Alien 3 is beyond rational thought.
 
Cheebo said:
It has not been greenlit. Having a imdb page means nothing. There has been a imdb page for Gremlins 3 for about a decade. Anyone can add a imdb page for a film.


I mean look at that release year, 2016. You shouldn't have fallen for that.
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Really--- I never said it was or wasn't greenlit, I was merely pointing out the movie is still listed as being in pre-production which if the movie was shit canned or delayed, we probably would've heard something by now which means they are most likely hard at work on finishing the first draft of the script and figuring out how that lines up with Prometheus 2 I would imagine.
 
Drifters said:
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As Cheebo pointed out, that's just an imdb page. The studio didn't put that up, a fan did.

I think it's somewhere back in that thread (because I was confused as hell about this too) where someone pointed out to me where and how I'd gotten confused about there being a greenlight.

But basically, Fox has not given this guy a budget to make a movie yet. They're going to let him develop his ideas, and then they're going to see if those ideas are strong enough to give him a budget. Only when the checkbook actually comes out is the film "greenlit"

So far as anyone knows, that has not happened yet. I don't know if Blomkamp said differently on his instagram in the meantime though. I thought he'd simply said he and Fox are going to gonna start working on it - but you can work on a film for a studio and not have the film greenlit.
 
CaptainAhab said:
Aliens was a worse Alien film than Alien 3.
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This hipster ass opinion has been terrible since jump

Anyways fingers crossed this movie just doesn't happen. There's little likelihood it will be good looking at who's involved

On the other hand Im kinda intrigued by the blade runner sequel. Tho Id rather it had been gylenhaal instead of gosling
 
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