Neill Blomkamp officially working on new Alien film
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no really. it cant!
Bobby Roberts
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Superman Returns
Halloween H20
Those are the first two to come to mind.
The bar isn't set particularly high here.
JasonUresti
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Disagree with that quite a bit. The Dark horse Alien and Alien vs Predator comics did a much better job of expanding continuing that universe than the later movies ever did.
The plots from those movies weren't taken from the comic books.
Phat Michael
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Both were awesome. However it seems the best director on this forum is Nolan so there is no accounting for taste.
Bobby Roberts
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Predators and Aliens shouldn't have ever occupied the same universe to begin with.
Not to say there weren't a few stories that were alright (and a few video games that were fun) but I don't think there's a single aspect of Alien vs. Predator I'd care to "count" as having actually happened, either for Predator OR Alien.
Mushroomer25
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I'm onboard with this. Even though Elysium is a bad movie, it's got some fantastic visuals & great overall direction. Chappie seems like it's heading the same way.
ThoseDeafMutes
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I actually think they work fairly well in the same universe, but I don't like a lot of the direction taken with Predator "culture" so to speak. Predators on Earth hunt? Their whole civilization is based around hunting. One and done. I'm also not much of a fan of using xenomorphs as some kind of rite of passage, or having the two species exist in a long history together.
If you could construct a new continuity cutting out most of the garbage I think the combination has potential.
Dusktildawn48
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I think I'm the only person who loved both Prometheus and Elysium.
Sigh. I just want a horror movie.
Why do people want these old ass actors for horror or action films?
:/
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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First graphic novel I ever read. Read it 5 times too! Really loved it.
UncleCross
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Please don't have Sigourney Weaver in this.
Is he getting his wife to write the script?
DVPredator85
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I hope Neil Blomkamp's Alien movie retcons Alien 3 and Resurrection out of existence. Those movies sucked. And having this movie tie with Prometheus is awesome!
Extra Sauce
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Fuck me.
To the people who are happy about this news, have you seen Elysium?
You're right, there aren't enough young actors in movies today.
To the people who are happy about this news, have you seen Elysium?
You're right, there aren't enough young actors in movies today.
DVPredator85
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Yeah Elysium sucked but I think District 9 was brilliant. Chappie looks like Short Circuit with a gun rack, but if it's good, I'm all for this guy doing an Alien movie.
Gambit 1138
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Superman Returns didn't really retcon anything. They basically just had the 4 previous films act as a "vague history" for the character.
The only movie that I know of that explicitly retconned previous films was Days of Future Past and it was awesome.
I guess you can kinda sorta count Star Trek 2009 as well.
Bobby Roberts
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DOFP wasn't really "pretending" that previous movies didn't exist. Same with Star Trek, they're both technically a sequel to previous movies that's playing in a separate timeline now.
So far as I can tell, this movie would straight up pretend Alien 3 & 4 didn't happen - like Halloween H20 and Superman Returns pretended everything but the second movie never happened.
Sub_Level
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I would agree for male actors but not female actors where it's kind of reverse and they get dumped by Hollywood after they reach a certain age window unless it's some artsy movie.
brandonh83
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I hate this notion that because of x not being good, then y won't be either. I haven't seen Elysium, but that's not Alien. It's not necessarily what he'll bring to Alien. District 9 got lots of praise and Chappie is still up in the air. But even if it sucks, it's still a different project. Martin Campbell made Vertical Limit, that shitty Zorro movie... and Casino Royale.
It's a fun book but not entirely loyal to the Predator lore. I hate it when the writers make the Predator out to be an evil alien that just kills anyone.
Because all previous Alien films had been written/directed by:
-First time rookies that had no clout to direct their vision and had jumbled, incoherent mess of a script to work with (Alien 3)
-An overrated writer and a French guy who makes (good) films completely opposite to the tone Alien films are supposed to have (Resurrection)
- A total fanboy moron who had no idea what he was doing (AvP)
-Even bigger fanboy morons who had to resort to copying the older films to hide their lack of talent, and who managed to fuck the ONE thing fans of the AvP concep had been clamoring over for years (predalien) (AvP: R)
- An over the hill, has-been director who, in contrast to Alien 3, was given WAY too much creative control and not reigned in by the studio, who teamed up with quite possibly the worst writer in Hollywood at the moment (Prometheus)
Extra Sauce
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Just to clarify, I was being sarcastic. I think Hollywood is too obsessed with youth and I would add that even men suffer from this ageism, although to a lesser extent.
That's easy for you to say. You haven't seen Elysium. You don't know what I went through.
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Shpeshal Nick
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This could go either way. If Elysium didn't exist, id have more confidence. I'll remain cautiously optimistic.
NoctisVsStar
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no district 9 sequel then ;/ still awesome news.
[Insert rant from some random dude who still can't get over that Hicks and Newt died and there's no guns in Alien 3 even though it's been 20 years now]
Metroidvania
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Make several instances cutting out/disregarding 3 (and Resurrection, though I love it for the stupid Whedon Camp factor), and keep out the alien mimic suit, and I'm down.
crazyrabbits
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Indeed. The "alien homeworld" sounded (and still sounds) hokey as hell, and yet that's the angle a lot of people affiliated with the films (including Renny Harlin and David Giler) want to see happen. I'd prefer that they still kept a sense of mystique about the creature instead of trying to explain it away like Prometheus did.
There have been many good Alien EU works. AVP 1/2, Extermination for the DS, Alien Trilogy, the AVP comics with Machiko, some of the one-shots (Labyrinth), the late 80's continuation, Predator: Concrete Jungle (which featured xenos in a minor capacity), etc.
The main problem is that no one's really matched up to Scott and Cameron in their prime. Fincher probably could have done a good job with A3, but that production was fucked from the get-go and no amount of effort on his part could have saved it. A large chunk of the budget spent on script rewrites and set design, constant arguments between writers, a jumpy studio who was trying to micromanage every penny, a release date set without a completed script, and the list goes on.
I actually like Resurrection in a corny sort of way. It does a decent job of moving away from the whole W-Y antagonist and tries to do some world-building by moving it into a distant future. The problem is that most of the characters aren't memorable, it goes back to the same well as the first film in terms of setting, and the big setpieces are just kind of boring.
The fact that Isolation was so praised should give Blomkamp and co. a general idea of what people want - something that stays true to the design and aesthetic of the early films while still doing its own world-building. Far too much of the series has either been constrained on one planet (LV-426) or with a limited handful of characters (Ripley, Bishop in all his forms). Not that I don't want to see Weaver return, but I'd love to see them branch beyond their comfort zone and try a new story that focuses on different locales. Maybe an Earth-based war, something similar to the mutated xenos from the Gibson script, etc.
fallengorn
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If he keeps Hicks in it, I'm on board.
I don't know. Ripley is dead. What was walking around in Alien Resurrection was a clone. I don't have a desire to see a Ripley that has augmented abilities, bleeds acid, and can "communicate" with the xenomorph. I would rather other people faced the xenos.
Bobby Roberts
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I'll agree with this, but based on the art he's already shared, it looks more like the game he's taking inspiration from is Colonial Marines.
Not to mention his whole career started from being handpicked for a Halo movie that never got made - Halo itself being not much more than a ALIENS riff.
Okay. So, if we're gonna do this right... just get it out of the way
Retcon Alien 3, bring back Ripley and Hicks and Bishop and Newt.
Now here's the really important part!
Because it would be SO easy to just waltz in, rush it, crank it out, and kill something that has already been killed. It'd be like killing that cat that came back to life, or turning the wine back into water. A totally senseless waste.
Almost make it spiritual. Let every good movie in history rush into your soul and pervade every pour in your body, man. Like, wow, the cosmos. Rock on.
Retcon Alien 3, bring back Ripley and Hicks and Bishop and Newt.
Now here's the really important part!
Make this film as if your life depended on its success.
Because it would be SO easy to just waltz in, rush it, crank it out, and kill something that has already been killed. It'd be like killing that cat that came back to life, or turning the wine back into water. A totally senseless waste.
Almost make it spiritual. Let every good movie in history rush into your soul and pervade every pour in your body, man. Like, wow, the cosmos. Rock on.
I don't believe a Prometheus sequel will ever actually happen. There's still no script or any sign of a start date; by the time it could go forward, we'd be talking a release date 5 or more years after the first movie, which was only tepidly received in the first place.
yeah, it sounds a lot to me like Universal's "we're still doing two Bourne movies!" thing, where both may be technically in the works, but only one actually has heat on it.
Shock_Wave
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Actually there's a script, it's finished and there's a date.
Just a matter of time.
http://www.scified.com/site/prometh...ms-prometheus-2-is-written-but-may-be-delayed
EatChildren
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Chappie looks pretty questionable.
The nightmare scenario is if they try to link up both movies at the same time, and one of them has an utterly horrible idea that also sinks the other film.
Any particular edit you'd recommend? I've been wanting to watch Prometheus but similarly been told to do a fan edit that removed/minimized the plot problems.
How did they handle the scientists being morons? That'd take some really clever splicing.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, I'm curious about that. It looks like the two I'm finding mentioned more than others are "Prometheus: Special Edition" and "Prometheus: Giftbearer"
Apparently both of them begin the movie with the Ted talk and then Shaw's submission to become part of the expedition.
I can't imagine either of them really "fixes" anything because if there was a fan-edit that actually managed to make Prometheus appreciably better, one of the enthusiast sites would have posted a big article about it already.
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