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Link to my first joystick mod. It's nowhere near perfect but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. Seimitsu LS-32-01 stick, Sanwa buttons and a Toradora mock-up for the background.

There's some small white space showing around a couple of the buttons and one cutting goof I made up near the PS button but overall I'm pleased with the finished product and of course it feels and plays a ton better than with the stock parts.
 
A Twisty Fluken said:
Listen up kids! G4TV has taught us:

white OBSF-30 from madcatz = "top notch"

dark hai OBSF-30 from sega = "very poor"
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Along similar lines:
VSHG = buttons too close to the stick
HRAP EX = Perfect

They're the same distance apart. :lol
 
matmanx1 said:
http://cid-fc39126ca8782bf9.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Share/DSC01143.JPG

Link to my first joystick mod. It's nowhere near perfect but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out. Seimitsu LS-32-01 stick, Sanwa buttons and a Toradora mock-up for the background.

There's some small white space showing around a couple of the buttons and one cutting goof I made up near the PS button but overall I'm pleased with the finished product and of course it feels and plays a ton better than with the stock parts.
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I kinda like the size of it.
May pick up a fightstick SE, mod it with my TE stuff while getting seimitsus for the TE.
 
toneroni said:
I kinda like the size of it.
May pick up a fightstick SE, mod it with my TE stuff while getting seimitsus for the TE.
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Yeah, I kinda want one for fun as well, just for the stock SFIV artwork before they disappear. I almost bought one at Fry's yesterday but they only had a bunch for PS3...kinda want one for 360.
 
I kinda want to mod an SE with Seimitsu parts for an "FSSE-SE"

For a guy who spends a lot of time in this thread I've never actually used a Seimitsu lever in my life.
 
So I got two Green Goblins (<3) in the mail today, and I was thinking of modding them. One with Sanwa parts and one with Seimetsu. I opened them up and it looks pretty easy, so anyone who has done this, can I seriously just pop in new (snap on) buttons & a stick, and then hook up the harnesses? Will I have to do much/any modification to the case?

Thanks in advance. :)
 
So HELLO THAR peoples, I live in canada and am having a bitch of a time finding ANY arcade stick that doesn't come from another country or even another hemisphere. This means I wind up not only dealing with what I'll dub the SF4 markup(anywhere from 10-100% above regular value) but the shipping is obscene- like 35-100 dollars american.

Is there any hope for me to find even the regular street fighter 4 stick for 360 ? I live near edmonton btw.

Also, to markman- I saw that x-play arcade stick roundup and was a little taken aback that they rated a custom lower then the other 2 because apparently that guys didn't work properly for some reason or another... while failing to mention that the arcade in a box guys will walk you through any needed fix over the phone or failing that fix it free of charge if they have to. My guess is they just went with the SF4 stick because it's the big official brand name stick.
 
Stupid question for all you HRAP owners... I took my DS HRAP apart awhile ago (doesn't matter which tho I am guessing for this question) and I forgot where the hell those two ground ("earth" for you euros) wires go. lols.

I'm assuming I can just ground them between any washer/bolt/nut combination that goes to the top metal control panel?

Let me know, I wanna get this thing put back together... I also need to cut away a bit of the bracket of the joystick since I am using screw-on buttons and the locknut for the button is hitting the bracket. >:/

Thanks!
 
kazuo said:
Let me know, I wanna get this thing put back together... I also need to cut away a bit of the bracket of the joystick since I am using screw-on buttons and the locknut for the button is hitting the bracket. >:/
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I used screw-on buttons (Seimitsu) on the same stick and it fit fine on that one button. I just slid the plastic nut under the edge first (slightly snug) with a bit of pressure then rotated the button instead to to get it all tight. Just connect the quick-disconnects afterwards. No need to cut. If yours is a bit snugger I'd suggest trimming down the washer to decrease the profile.
 
_dementia said:
I think it got new artwork:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=16066062&postcount=130
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Oh that does look good! Think I'm getting it for the PS3 since it is based on that hardware. Strange, I'm starting to get all my multi-plat games for PS3, which is easily my least played system. Cosmetically, the boxes are just generally more appealing. Haven't played Tekken since the original PS1 release but I'm making an strong effort to get back into these franchises this year...here is hoping Tekken is not too deep.

Side note: hadn't realized Dragon Age was gonna get a console release...that is a nice surprise!
 
Is the Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3 backwards compatible (play PS2 games on the PS3)? How is the quality? Sounds like amazon.ca has them again (take about a month, though).
 
Putting the Sanwa snap in's in the SE stick was a snap. Literally. Used a small pair of needle nosed pliers to pull the wires off of the bottoms of the old buttons because they were on VERY tightly but otherwise it's as easy as popping the old ones out and the news ones in.

The Seimitsu stick took a little more effort. I rotated the S-bracket 90 degrees to the right so that the 5 pin connector would be in approximately the same place as the old stock one. I also had to remove the plastic strip next to the closest buttons because it sits over the left hand side of the stock mounting plate and covers the holes I needed to screw in the new stick. Once I had that done I plugged in the 5 pin connector the same way the old one was plugged in and discovered I only had "down" motions registering on the stick and through some searching figured out I needed to turn the connector over to restore full operation. Go figure.

The Seimitsu stick is stiffer than the Sanwa (my buddy has the JLF in his SE and I took it home for a weekend before I decided I wanted to do this mod) so it doesnt have quite the same smoothness but the shorter throw, higher resistance and quicker return to center means I can pull off motions faster with it than the Sanwa. That's just me though, my buddy swears by his JLF so YMMV. Overall I love the mod. I enjoyed doing it, it performs excellently and I am almost tempted to buy another stick for my 360 just so I can do it again with some different art and colors.
 
Well it seems the local ebgames stores have been getting arcade sticks in at a trickling pace this past week, one of my friends went to 2 different stores and bougth 2 of the tournament editions for his ps3. I played with them a bunch today and they are quite good, not so great it makes a crappy player like me that much better at the game but still an improvement to using a gamepad.

While at a 3rd EBgames we found a special edition fighting stick for 360 so one of my other friends picked that up, it's definetly worse then the tournament edition but it's still good enough and better then a gamepad. Hopefully I can come across another one soon for myself ... although the deluxe model is better unless I had no other choice I'd rather save 100 bucks.
 
Decado said:
Is the Playstation 3 Fighting Stick 3 backwards compatible (play PS2 games on the PS3)? How is the quality? Sounds like amazon.ca has them again (take about a month, though).
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Yes it's BC. Not my favorite stick qualitywise, but a couple of weeks ago a very good Ryu won a local tourney with an unmodded one. He had no problems with links, FADCs etc.
 
_dementia said:
Yes it's BC. Not my favorite stick qualitywise, but a couple of weeks ago a very good Ryu won a local tourney with an unmodded one. He had no problems with links, FADCs etc.
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Buktooth goes to tourneys w/ a FS3 as well lol.
 
_dementia said:
Yes it's BC. Not my favorite stick qualitywise, but a couple of weeks ago a very good Ryu won a local tourney with an unmodded one. He had no problems with links, FADCs etc.
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Thanks. I'm trying to cancel my PS3 HORI Real Arcade Pro Stick 3 from Play-Asia and get this one instead off amazon.ca. When the SFIV TE sticks come back in stock at EB I'll pick one of those up with trade-in credit.
 
Did anyone here pre-order an HRAP from NCSX? I'm gonna bet they've probably already exceeded their capacity, but I still wanted to order one.
 
I was initially motivated after reading KoD's thread on VFDC http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbt...242801/fpart/1
which explained how he had made one for testing VF. With SlapperJoe's help I modded my Hori T4 stick and connected it to an arduino, and started programming. We went through a few iterations (dualshock pad, Fighting Stick 3).

Over the holidays (I've had 5 weeks off) I took the time to assemble what i needed to get the setup just as I wanted it.

2xMayflash sticks (from Slagfart)
Arduino Mega (lots of lots of pins, lots of memory)
LCD screen (4x20 characters, blue)
LEDs
My own equipment for soldering etc.

I worked out how to solder for myself finally and went about putting it together. The mayflash sticks are actually extremely easy to use. They have 8 pins which are easy to find and solder too, and the stick itself is easy to solder onto. Grounding is easy as well. I'm sure you could swap bits out to make it a nicer stick, but at this point it serves no purpose to me.

After trying it out, I now have the following

- 2 sticks, controlled by the one PCB. 8 buttons each, 4 directions. Easy to test P1 and P2 stuff at the same time.
- LCD screen showing title, frame rate (NTSC/PAL/Custom) and values which I'm testing (generally frame intervals). Also shows frame elapsed/time elapsed
- Coding is tight. New timing means that it drops about 3/1000 seconds in the first second and is almost 999 or 1000msec per second thereafter. Frames are pretty much accurate. Easy to swap NTSC and PAL.
- I have scripts for testing delays between moves, reading inputs, JF testing/training and combos. Can increase delay for 4 separate moves without having to reupload the script, and it is displayed on the LCD. Can also swap 1P and 2P side as needed.
- Coding is still a bit messy, but works ok. Have tested a few things that I've wanted to know (OTGF input requirements, tech-catch window)
- Works on Wii, PS2, PS3 and PC (note, doesn't work on PS3 backwards compatibility.)

All I really want to do is
- Attach it to a solid base.
- Attach some LEDs for JF timing
- Simplify the code
- Test T6BR.

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Yes Boss! If you want to fit in a good Seimitsu stick for shooters, I suggest you try LS-56. That's what I mounted to my HRAP EX. Although, you will need a mounting plate MS for the LS-56.

I've found the stiffness of LS-56 to be what I prefer for STG games. Of course the stiffness/movement restriction is totally opinions/assholes situation, I've found it to be the best for my tastes.
 
Momar said:
Did anyone here pre-order an HRAP from NCSX? I'm gonna bet they've probably already exceeded their capacity, but I still wanted to order one.
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I pre ordered one the first day that they had them up. I take it that they are still taking pre orders?!

I say give it a shot. They don't charge your CC till they have your order in stock so you should be good to go if you find one else where...
 
Anybody know any type of timeline for a Mad Katz announcement(if at all)? E3 floor is now open and I was anticipating something before then.
 
So with the whole TvC for Wii coming with new characters tidbit - is there an easy way to use my PS3 and/or PS2 sticks on the Wii? :lol

I do have an old PS2->GC converter for the PS2 stick.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
So with the whole TvC for Wii coming with new characters tidbit - is there an easy way to use my PS3 and/or PS2 sticks on the Wii? :lol

I do have an old PS2->GC converter for the PS2 stick.
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I use a pair of these:

joyconverter3.jpg


They work great.
Look up "Cube Joybox" on play-asia or amazon marketplace
 
Hello,

Does anyone know off the top of their head if the Seimitsu LS32-01 is compatible with the HRAP1 Amazon JP edition (Orange) ?


Thank you!
 
DoubleTap said:
Hello,

Does anyone know off the top of their head if the Seimitsu LS32-01 is compatible with the HRAP1 Amazon JP edition (Orange) ?


Thank you!
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If it's the 1st version of the HRAP1 (mirror top) then an LS-32-01 fits fine without any physical modification to the mounting bracket.
 
BillyG_3001 said:
They are shit imitations of the Sanwa buttons, they will work okay for a little while but in the long run they will let you down :)
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A couple of weeks later, one of my buttons is starting to go on my Madcatz SE stick.

I'm looking now to order new Sanwa parts, buttons: OBSF-30, joystick I'm not 100% sure on: I had the JLF-TP-8YT bookmarked I think from a mention in this thread, does it have the same sized ball top as the Madcatz stick? I wouldn't want one any larger (some pics make them look big).
 
BitchTits said:
A couple of weeks later, one of my buttons is starting to go on my Madcatz SE stick.

I'm looking now to order new Sanwa parts, buttons: OBSF-30, joystick I'm not 100% sure on: I had the JLF-TP-8YT bookmarked I think from a mention in this thread, does it have the same sized ball top as the Madcatz stick? I wouldn't want one any larger (some pics make them look big).
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It's the same size, no worries.
 
No word from E3 about any new sticks being released stateside? Disappointing. With all the fighting games coming soon, I was sure something would be in the works. Isn't Marvel vs. Capcom 2 coming in just a couple of weeks?

I'm glad Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is coming to the USA. Now I have more games to use my modded Wii sticks on!
 
Baron said:
No word from E3 about any new sticks being released stateside? Disappointing. With all the fighting games coming soon, I was sure something would be in the works. Isn't Marvel vs. Capcom 2 coming in just a couple of weeks?

I'm glad Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is coming to the USA. Now I have more games to use my modded Wii sticks on!
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Yeah, bummed me out. This thread was too quiet for such an epic E3.
 
Baron said:
No word from E3 about any new sticks being released stateside? Disappointing. With all the fighting games coming soon, I was sure something would be in the works. Isn't Marvel vs. Capcom 2 coming in just a couple of weeks?

I'm glad Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is coming to the USA. Now I have more games to use my modded Wii sticks on!
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Well, the SFIV hype is finally dying down and people are going back to their FPS games so it's to be expected.
 
About to grab a SF4 Fight Stick for the 360 and have a couple of questions since I haven't really been following the sticks since before they released:

- Has the washer issue been resolved?
- Regardless of whether it has or has not, the washer issue didn't mess up the main PCB correct? So even if I had the issue, replacing the stock stick with a new one would fix it right?

Thanks!
 
Slapped a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in my TE and damn. It's tight. I wasn't expecting such a huge difference from the Sanwa. Not sure if I'm gonna keep the Seimitsu buttons in but the stick, yeah. It's staying. Really need to try it with Raiden Fighters. I'm sure it'll make a big difference. Certainly did in SF4. It threw off my game a bit, since I'm so used to the loose goosey Sanwa, but it feels so much more precise to me. I'm sure my input replays would look way different now! Maybe.

Really need to print up some custom art for the TE now. The current red does not go well with my blue buttons and pink balltop.
 
Rummy Bunnz said:
Slapped a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in my TE and damn. It's tight. I wasn't expecting such a huge difference from the Sanwa. Not sure if I'm gonna keep the Seimitsu buttons in but the stick, yeah. It's staying. Really need to try it with Raiden Fighters. I'm sure it'll make a big difference. Certainly did in SF4. It threw off my game a bit, since I'm so used to the loose goosey Sanwa, but it feels so much more precise to me. I'm sure my input replays would look way different now! Maybe.

Really need to print up some custom art for the TE now. The current red does not go well with my blue buttons and pink balltop.
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Did you have to do something to the LS-32-01 before installing it? Or do you just screw it on like the JLF?



Thanks!
 
Rummy Bunnz said:
Slapped a Seimitsu LS-32-01 in my TE and damn. It's tight. I wasn't expecting such a huge difference from the Sanwa. Not sure if I'm gonna keep the Seimitsu buttons in but the stick, yeah. It's staying. Really need to try it with Raiden Fighters. I'm sure it'll make a big difference. Certainly did in SF4. It threw off my game a bit, since I'm so used to the loose goosey Sanwa, but it feels so much more precise to me. I'm sure my input replays would look way different now! Maybe.

Really need to print up some custom art for the TE now. The current red does not go well with my blue buttons and pink balltop.
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Uuuuuung. This is such a good idea. I play Raiden with my TE as well and while the Sanwa feels great for fighters, not so much for shooters where you really need to just be able to twitch out your actions with very little movement.
 
AZ Greg said:
- Has the washer issue been resolved?
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No idea.

- Regardless of whether it has or has not, the washer issue didn't mess up the main PCB correct? So even if I had the issue, replacing the stock stick with a new one would fix it right?
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That's right. It was just a case of the washer on the joystick slipping out of place, and causing directions to stick or not work, and then eventually scratching the pcb on the joystick (not the main pcb) until it stops working. Getting a new JLF or whatever is fine, even if the stock stick doesn't work.
 
Yeah, I had to unscrew a few bits from the Seimitsu and rotate its PCB. I'm not a technical dude at all and it was VERY easy. I followed this guide:

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=132472

It's for a HRAP but I think the TE uses the same mounting plate. I think I had to rotate it in a different direction than he indicates, though. To figure out the proper rotation I plugged the stick in and tested to see which direction was which before screwing it onto the mounting plate. Very easy and awesome.
 
Can anyone tell me how tough it is to switch from an 8-way gate to a square one? I have a modded EX2 as well as the SF4TE stick and the square gate on the TE stick convinced me that I need one on my main stick. Is it as simple as ordering a gate and using a screwdriver or are there other steps involved?
 
qcf x2 said:
Can anyone tell me how tough it is to switch from an 8-way gate to a square one? I have a modded EX2 as well as the SF4TE stick and the square gate on the TE stick convinced me that I need one on my main stick. Is it as simple as ordering a gate and using a screwdriver or are there other steps involved?
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It's so easy, the hardest part is opening the case. The gates on the JLF's only snap in and out - no tool required.
 
Saw this on Markman's flickr...

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I'm going to assume its a crappy FSEX2/FS3 like the Soul Calibur promo sticks.
Secretly, I want Namco to revive their PS1 stick for the current generation, but lol @ that happening.
 
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