NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread
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I'm new to sticks, but I have a new HRAP3:SA and preordered SF4 TE stick. Figured it would be more worthwhile to go all out.
Anyways, I don't know a thing about soldering: will I be able to maintain these sticks when something(buttons/sticks) stops working (w/o soldering skills)?
Anyways, I don't know a thing about soldering: will I be able to maintain these sticks when something(buttons/sticks) stops working (w/o soldering skills)?
MarkMan
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For the most part yea. Everything is easily swappable (buttons use quick disconnects and the sticks use a 5 pin connector)...
The only time you would have to solder is if there was something wrong with the PCB, which rarely happens (from my experience at least).
For the most part yea. Everything is easily swappable (buttons use quick disconnects and the sticks use a 5 pin connector)...
The only time you would have to solder is if there was something wrong with the PCB, which rarely happens (from my experience at least).
i'd appreciate advise from anyone living in the US. i'll go ona 10 day vacation to USA, NY,Vegas,LA i know there are different taxes in different cities an states. As US dollar is cheaper than euro i plan to buy madcatz SFIV stick for my ps3. Is 150$ the final price everywhere or do i have to add taxes, if so, where would i find it cheaper?
Space Cadet
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Add taxes, although the percent is different for each state (anywhere from 6-8%). Online retailers such as Amazon do not charge tax, but if you are just visiting you would need an address to ship it to. Also, the way it looks is that if you do not preorder the SF TE you probably aren't going to find it in stores, so you will probably be paying much more than 150 on ebay and the like.
SonOfABeep
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Okay I'd really appreciate if anyone could help me out. I'm almost done building my custom 360 stick, as I got my sanwa parts in today.
I've got the wiring all done on the MadCatz Arcade GameStick - Everything seems to work right when tested and the sanwas are plugged in, but in the Windows Game Controllers window, where you can test the buttons and such, the number 1 button is always pressed.
By process of elimination I've determined this must be the guide button, but I'm not sure why it would be doing this. The soldering/wiring isn't any different than the other buttons and they work fine. Is this just showing up this way because it's a 360 controller plugged into the PC?
I've got the wiring all done on the MadCatz Arcade GameStick - Everything seems to work right when tested and the sanwas are plugged in, but in the Windows Game Controllers window, where you can test the buttons and such, the number 1 button is always pressed.
By process of elimination I've determined this must be the guide button, but I'm not sure why it would be doing this. The soldering/wiring isn't any different than the other buttons and they work fine. Is this just showing up this way because it's a 360 controller plugged into the PC?
SonOfABeep
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I hope nobody minds bumping this cause I'm in a rush to finish this stick today.
SonOfABeep said:
button 1 is always the A button on the madcatz arcade stick pcb. the guide button doesn't show in windows control panel properties (at least in xp), only the following 10 buttons.
1. a
2. b
3. x
4. y
5. lb
6. rb
7. back
8. start
9. left thumbstick button
10. right thumbstick button
nothing should be pressed if your soldering is correct.
i'd suggest cleaning the solder off the trace of the A button and then re testing to see if it turns off.
really liking the hrap3 now that i've gotten used it -- guile's my main, and i can now nail his super just about 100% of the time on reaction. i kind of had to think about it on the hfs3. still struggling a little with qcfx2 motions...often i get dragon punches instead
Spiderjericho
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drohne said:
Same here. I'm alright with charge characters using the HRAP3. It's the supers and left-side SRKs that are my issue. I haven't even messed around with 360 motions.
Lizardlick sent me an e-mail yesterday saying they didn't have many white Sanwa buttons at the moment, so my order would be delayed.
I really want to experiment with the square vs. octo gate, bat top vs. ball top and sanwa vs. seimitsu buttons so I can find my comfort zone.
Spiderjericho said:
I always found 360 motions to be a lot easier on a stick, but I'm not sure if you're comparing to d-pads or just comparing to a different type of stick.
Ah crap, I was gonna go with white buttons
I'm also considering a nice blue bubble top with those purdy translucent Seimitsu buttons 
Same here, once of the reasons why I got an HRAP3 as well as the SF4 TE stick. I'm going to play around with customizing my HRAP so I can figure out how I want to set up my TE stick
Preordered my TE stick from amazon. Went with the 360 version. Since when does amazon sell the HRAP? Is this new? It says amazon will have HRAP Ex. on Feb 3rd and they already have the hrap 3. That is awesome.
I think I will just open up my T5 anniversary stick and solder up a ps3 pcb rather than looking for a converter. I cannot seem to find a converter anywhere(put my newly acquired computer engineering degree to good use). If anyone knows where I can get a lag free converter for a reasonable price please PM me.
I think I will just open up my T5 anniversary stick and solder up a ps3 pcb rather than looking for a converter. I cannot seem to find a converter anywhere(put my newly acquired computer engineering degree to good use). If anyone knows where I can get a lag free converter for a reasonable price please PM me.
gray_fox224
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MThanded said:
Same here, the PS3 one.
I know, it was a pleasant surprise when I found that Amazon carries the HRAPS
SonOfABeep
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Hey thanks a bunch, going to resolder the A Button now.
I really appreciate the quick help!!
I really appreciate the quick help!!
sixteen-bit
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MThanded said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13558307&postcount=1435
I found out about them on November 9th.
...and it was old news then apparently to MM
SonOfABeep
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Hey thanks so much guys for the help, again.
I finished my stick tonight and it's just sexy.
Well it's not that slick, but for a first attempt it works. Need to add some control panel art, finish it, and paint it yet. But it's basically done.
I finished my stick tonight and it's just sexy.
Well it's not that slick, but for a first attempt it works. Need to add some control panel art, finish it, and paint it yet. But it's basically done.
Spiderjericho
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Son of a Beep...please pictures...
You're the man...
I don't think I could have success soldering or creating a case (though I'm sure it's not hard once you delve into it).
And I was playing HD Remix with my HRAP3 (against gutter trash and Accronym) and it was such a hassle. I was half convinced to switch to my Saturn pad cuz it was just a chore to get out supers and dragon punches.
360s come out pretty easy though and so do charge motions. Can't wait to test it out with a bat top or octo gate.
You're the man...
I don't think I could have success soldering or creating a case (though I'm sure it's not hard once you delve into it).
And I was playing HD Remix with my HRAP3 (against gutter trash and Accronym) and it was such a hassle. I was half convinced to switch to my Saturn pad cuz it was just a chore to get out supers and dragon punches.
360s come out pretty easy though and so do charge motions. Can't wait to test it out with a bat top or octo gate.
Spiderjericho
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Where is it dfyb? I'm always interested in seeing people's work. Akuma001 occasionally posts his work...I think it's excellent.
[edit - this was the first stick i built and my first attempt at non-simple woodwork.]Spiderjericho said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12859930&postcount=1323
but here's the post with updated linkes (moved my blog):
I built a stick from scratch over the summer, and for the most part logged it in my artblog (biggest missing entity is the soldering/wiring, since i lost the pics --
It's not necessarily finished, as I do plan on going back and finishing the wood (sanding it to a more refined shape and surfacing it), and I will most likely replace the art with something more unique later. The wiring was done really quickly, so I may go and redo that, too. But the stick is functional, so I'm more than happy to take a break
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Deciding on button layout, buying wood and ordering parts.
Assembling main body.
Drilling out holes for the buttons and stick.
Routing and other woodwork.
Wiring and a temporary back. (again, sorry for this entry being less detailed - I might go back and add more sometime)
polyh3dron
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Now that Amazon sells the HRAP3 there's not really much of a reason to get the SF4 stick that costs $60 more for anything other than aesthetic reasons, is there...
Spiderjericho
Member
polyh3dron said:
Wait for CES when Markman can disclose information on the joysticks completely. I think it's Jan 8 to 11 (just double checked, yeah). The difference between the HRAP3 and SFIV TE are the artwork, Sanwa buttons and...
Markman posted recommendations from Alex Valle on the quality of the stick. Though he may work for Madcatz, he is an avid joystick collector (you can find his stack of joysticks somewhere in this thread) and has said these sticks are top of the line. I interviewed Seth Killian for a school project, he says this project meant a lot to him, as he wanted to get the best product out. Accronym commented yesterday that this is the best stick...
But if cost is your concern...then definitely buy the HRAP3. Think of it as the difference between a normal Corvette and the ZO6.
Spiderjericho
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dfyb, that was an awesome project. Yeah...you're top tier. I mean for your first joystick, it came out very well. Except for creating your own PCB, everything was from scratch. I like the artwork and layout.
You won't catch me in a million years doing the same...just don't have the patience...
But who knows...
If you refine it or work on a second, definitely post it.
You won't catch me in a million years doing the same...just don't have the patience...
But who knows...
If you refine it or work on a second, definitely post it.
Spiderjericho said:
I am really interested to see whats going to happen at CES. People keep saying wait for CES. Maybe mad catz will be getting into the joystick game and competing with Hori. I would like to see someone else pushing out high quality sticks. I really hope getting the TE stick is justified. Depending on the specs of the non-TE stick I could get that and do all of the work myself, right? I could purchase an HRAP for my ps3 and non-TE for my xbox 360.
Also I would really like to know whose getting sf4 for what system? The online competition market will be segmented. I want to be in the right segment. lol
Edit:Why cant you preorder the non Tournament Edition stick anywhere?
Edit:NVM. I see it on amazon. From the picture I assumed it was a hori ex2 lol.
So for X-Mas I got a $100 giftcard for Amazon.com and I was thinking about getting an XBOX 360 stick for SFIV (and SSFIIHD since it's so hard to play without a stick).
Fighting Stick EX 2
I imagine this isn't a high quality stick, but I was thinking about upgrading the buttons (only 6), stick, and if need be a more weighted and sturdy base. Has anyone had good luck upgrading this stick, or would it be better to start off with a higher quality stick?
Ryan from the 1UP Show said that he was getting the 360 version as that is where he thinks the tournament action will be (I think that was the reason as it was a few weeks ago), so that's the one I was looking to get :\
Fighting Stick EX 2
I imagine this isn't a high quality stick, but I was thinking about upgrading the buttons (only 6), stick, and if need be a more weighted and sturdy base. Has anyone had good luck upgrading this stick, or would it be better to start off with a higher quality stick?
MThanded said:
Ryan from the 1UP Show said that he was getting the 360 version as that is where he thinks the tournament action will be (I think that was the reason as it was a few weeks ago), so that's the one I was looking to get :\
Can anyone recommend a reliable site for pre-ordering the SFIV TE stick? Needs to ship to Europe (Sweden).
I'm on my local GAME's list-for-interested, but since they don't have a clue about how many sticks they'll get (if any), I'm not sure if I want to take the chance. That being said, can any store/site guarantee a copy if the stick is limited?
I'm on my local GAME's list-for-interested, but since they don't have a clue about how many sticks they'll get (if any), I'm not sure if I want to take the chance. That being said, can any store/site guarantee a copy if the stick is limited?
OokieSpookie
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Do we know yet if the SF4 online will be region locked?
iDoubleSpy
Member
OokieSpookie said:
Technically the only version that would/should be locked int he 360 version. I think just by simply making a JP PSN name for the PS3 would allow you to play JP folks. If not, the import is always optional.
If thats the case, thats what I am going to do. Not use in wasting my time playing people who aren't nearly as good
there are good players here in the US.iDoubleSpy said:Technically the only version that would/should be locked int he 360 version. I think just by simply making a JP PSN name for the PS3 would allow you to play JP folks. If not, the import is always optional.
If thats the case, thats what I am going to do. Not use in wasting my time playing people who aren't nearly as good
sixteen-bit
Member
enjoy your lagiDoubleSpy said:Technically the only version that would/should be locked int he 360 version. I think just by simply making a JP PSN name for the PS3 would allow you to play JP folks. If not, the import is always optional.
If thats the case, thats what I am going to do. Not use in wasting my time playing people who aren't nearly as good
it's anything like like 3S Xbox, you'll have worldwide and local filters for online games.
I kid you not, the restrictor plate and one of the microswitches on my modded DOA4 stick went out this weekend.
I could replace them, but I can't be arsed when I see all of these brand new sticks coming out next month.
Maybe it isn't coincidence. Maybe someone at Hori or MadCatz stuck a killswitch in my DOA4 stick!
In any event, the more info on the SFIV sticks, the better... because right now, I'm convinced I need to spend $130-$160 on something that's no fuss / no muss.
Edit: and before anyone asks "how does a restrictor plate go out?" I thought that myself, until I saw it with my own eyes -- broken plastic in the central section. WTF. I'm not that brutal!
I could replace them, but I can't be arsed when I see all of these brand new sticks coming out next month.
Maybe it isn't coincidence. Maybe someone at Hori or MadCatz stuck a killswitch in my DOA4 stick!
In any event, the more info on the SFIV sticks, the better... because right now, I'm convinced I need to spend $130-$160 on something that's no fuss / no muss.
Edit: and before anyone asks "how does a restrictor plate go out?" I thought that myself, until I saw it with my own eyes -- broken plastic in the central section. WTF. I'm not that brutal!
Decided to get the HRAP3 finally. Will the PS-14-KN Seimitsu buttons fit in it? And which buttons fit the start/select ones? The PS-14-DN?
Also I'm thinking of going with the translucent white buttons and balltop. Think those would look good on an HRAP? Or should I pick another color?
Also I'm thinking of going with the translucent white buttons and balltop. Think those would look good on an HRAP? Or should I pick another color?
)I posted up some art templates for a lot of the major sticks out there.. Hope to add some more down the line.. Not too sure what I did with my T5 template.. thanks to akuma001 for these.
http://www.iplaywinner.com/joystick-art-templates/
http://www.iplaywinner.com/joystick-art-templates/
the androgyne
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Those are the right size buttons (30mm and 24mm)
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
They soldered the buttons directly to the circuit board, so you'd best have some skill with a soldering iron if you want to pull this mod off.TommyT said:
vertopci said:
One of my sticks is pretty much exactly how you described, I used PS-14-G-N which are the same as PS-14-KN, except only the inside part is clear, they're not completely skeletal. Screw-ins may or may not fit, they did fit on my HRAP1, but with a HRAP2 button layout I'm not sure. You might be better off with snap in skeletal buttons. Also 24mm seimitsu buttons are fine for start/select, but again I'm not sure if screw-ins will fit.
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