UberTag
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Just PMed you with one. Feel free to let me know if you're interested.
NeoGAF Fantasy Football Paypal League(s) - Season 4
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AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Sack penalty is a bit strange. I have never played with one, as far as I know.
The Frankman
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Replied to it, sent a counter.
I think in s1, Rodgers took like 50 sacks but was still by far the best QB lol. There was no penalty on a great QB throwing so much. That's why we have the -0.5 penalty
PS: I just added another Charger. Couldn't help myself
That's a very good looking team. Your WRs are insane. Although I feel every league with only 10 teams looks great. Also keep the draft analysis coming. I love it. I might give out grades to the best teams drafted if I have more time.
UberTag
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I'll be doing more rounds later. Decided to take a quick break to map out my plan of attack for tonight's Economy League draft.
The Frankman
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WHOA WHOA WHOA PUDDLES WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
Can we get a stop on scoring changes so those preparing don't have to redo everything every day.
UberTag
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Return TDs are such a rare occurrence it seems silly to drop their value to 4 points.
The top offensive player in that department last season was Devin Hester with a whopping three total across 16 games.
(Patrick Peterson had 4 but he's a cornerback.)
The Frankman
Banned
They were nerfed already at .03 repeating! Ubertag already posted a list to show it's not as big a deal as you think.
and of course I can't find the post..
Do you want it to go back to .3 repeating?
The Frankman
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I don't think it really needed to be changed, 1 point every 33 yards seemed fine. I don't see too many weeks it'll be a major factor. The key is not how much better it makes legit return threats, it's how much it'll make scrubs better. It won't turn fringe WRs who have said duties into must-starts.
Okay. I'll change it back.
Btw, touchdowns are now 6.01 points instead of an even 6. QB touchdowns are 4.01.
The Frankman
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... why? It feels like you're overthinking the scoring at the last second.
Ok this is getting silly now. What's with the last second changes? We already have fractional points allowed, you're making it overly complicated Puddles.
Someone has to be the Maverick.
The Frankman
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I think I may bow out of the league. I'm sorry, but this is getting too weird. When you have this many last-second changes hours before the draft that threatens to mess with alot of mocks. And many of these changes seem on a whim.
UberTag
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Can't wait for someone to lose a close matchup by 0.01 points because of that extra touchdown hundredth. Just imagine the pandemonium.
The Frankman
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I'm not going nuclear, I just would've liked some explanation like "Okay here's a reason blah blah blah"/formula/etc.. If you made this stuff weeks ago I wouldn't mind at all, but seven hours before the draft? It seems... flighty.
Look you're the commish, whatever changes you you have an idea why you made it, but is there a reason you're making everything so fractional? I don't get it.
No, there was no reason at all except to make the numbers look weird for a few hours before changing it back. It was a joke. But you're right, it's too close to the draft to be fucking around. That's a joke I should have played a few days ago.
The return yards were a genuine concern of mine, but I've reverted them to the previous settings.
The Frankman
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Aha, here is the post from Crazymoogle (wrong guy)
Now that was with it being 25 yards a point. Trust me, you have little to worry about.
Okay so here's another crack at the prize money split:
420
320
200
100
I'd really like to leave it at this. There are 16 people in this league. Only 4 are getting something. It makes no sense to de-value 2nd, 3rd and 4th place based on the reasons for starting the league in the first place! (No Quitters, in case anyone forgot lol)
420
320
200
100
I'd really like to leave it at this. There are 16 people in this league. Only 4 are getting something. It makes no sense to de-value 2nd, 3rd and 4th place based on the reasons for starting the league in the first place! (No Quitters, in case anyone forgot lol)
UberTag
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The additional little wrinkle is that certain sites will differ on just which players will be taking on return roles and which ones won't be.
For example, Yahoo! currently projects return yards against both CJ Spiller and Antonio Brown... which, based on my sources, isn't something they'll be doing much of at all this season.
Conversely, they're not projecting any return yards at all for Titus Young which is a situation that may be changing.
And, of course, many sites are projecting Jacoby Ford to stay healthy for a full 16 games which we all know isn't happening.
The Frankman
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You're not rewarding 1st place enough and overvaluing 3rd/4th a bit. There should be a clearer value decline IMHO.
Hey, I feel the 1st place winner should get half the pot anyway, but I know that won't be the case here as I stated in this thread.
And besides, in the NFL how many teams you think get paid big money? Only the Superbowl entrants get dat paper, same idea here. You got to be in it to win it! THE PEOPLE AGREE AND HAVE SPOKEN.
No
The Frankman
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By that logic the whole season is luck, but alot of it isn't. Grabbing the right waiver picks. The right FAs. Usually you can tell the lucky ones from the guys who pound the beat for good picks also. Alot of research goes into that and to not really reward that seems... bleh.
I just don't get how 1st doesn't even get 45% though. $1040 total pot here, and I don't see people quitting because of the pot. People will quit if their team isn't doing well; then you say "Don't come back next year!"
UberTag
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I'm in Frankman's camp on this but without a clear vote on the pot distribution between 4 people having been presented it's kind of hard to gauge a consensus.
The Frankman
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Only 5 people are in my camp, 2 against and the rest haven't said anything. So yeah, can't really make a case w/o more opinions. :C
BTW Ubertag did you get my counteroffer for your Trade Proposal?
UberTag
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I did. Mulled it over. Decided the price was too rich for me. Quite happy drafting from the 4th slot.
The Frankman
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Gotcha, firing off more Trade Offers as we speak.
UberTag
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That's standard practice and I say that as the guy who finished 4th last season and made a profit.
I didn't deserve anything more than my initial buy-in after trading away Reggie Bush for a hobbled Run DMC based solely on Hue Jackson's shady injury updates.
hahaha. Knight of Mars, Beater of Ass.
It's not that people quit because of the pot. They'll quit (or probably just mail it in) if they have a dreadful start and seem out of it early. It's just human nature, dude and that ruins it for everyone left!
Most of us have more than one league so it's even more of a risk if we have a lop-sided payout rate IMO.
How about this:
$440
$300
$200
$100
That is a clear distinction for the champ while still giving a .500 team something to strive for halfway through.
I don't really care if other leagues pay out 50% to the champ. Some leagues also pay the commissioners but Moogle and I aren't dipping into the prize pool lol
UberTag
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Shanahan will call out one depth chart today.
Another on game day.
Name a 3rd guy the starter an hour before kickoff.
And then give 25 carries to some undrafted free agent they signed off the street.
And then repeat the whole process the next week.
Draft a Redskins RB and you'll NEVER be able to count on anything.
The Frankman
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It's fine, I just don't understand why anyone would mail it in. You shell out $65 bucks for a 4 month commitment... it seems weird to me.
Oh I agree but I remember having to police the lineups of some bottom-feeder teams on gamedays late last year even though the fee was $50 back then -_-
I will update the payout on the dues page
It's crazy how 2 SBs gives him the leeway to do stuff that would be mercilessly ridiculed if almost anyone else did it..
UberTag
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Make sure you don't police my lineup when I elect to start 2012's Jackie Battle in my lineup and he's got a piss-poor projection on Yahoo! because they're too slow on the uptake.
I'd rather have absentee owners than a Commish altering lineups in the interest of fairness.
Some of us may also have an interest in picking up the free agents off the wire that you "pick up" for the owner that isn't as engaged.
Unless an owner dumps his entire roster to the waiver wire and clearly abandons the league I'd prefer no external interference.
ErasureAcer
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We can enter the draft room 30 minutes early?
Those projections mean nothing. I am projected to lose a few games simply because of bye weeks. Obviously I will have bench players in there getting points. Injuries will occur. Stud will falter. Nobodies will emerge. Also remember to never use yahoos projections in trading players.
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