NeoGAF - is Xbox dead?

Is Xbox dead?

  • Yes, as of today

  • Yes, as of when they announced their multiplatform plans

  • Yes, as of the first major round of layoffs/closures (Tango etc.)

  • Yes, as of when they announced all their games would hit PC day one

  • Yes, as of the Xbox One reveal

  • No, they are not dead yet, but they are headed there in a few months

  • No, they are not dead yet, but they are headed there in a few years

  • No, they are not dead yet, but they are headed there with their new hardware

  • No, and they won't be


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Another day.....another Xbox is dead thread

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17 days and counting....
 
I got my first Playstation in 1997. I got the PS2 at launch, and the fat PS3 before anyone knew if bluray would win out. I had a PS4 at launch.

Somewhere in there, at some point in time, I bought an XboxOne to play with a buddy of mine who moved far away. I downloaded a bunch of exclusives, then sold it off after a year or 2 of not playing. Fast forward to the pandemic, and I had money to burn and boredom to kill, so I bought an S series, figuring what the hell, it's economical and Gamepass seemed intriguing.

I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward. Then I plunked down my cash for gamepass, and signed on figuring it would be some sort of scam. Nope--great full-length games, available to download at my liesure.

I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

I am a rational, middle-aged consumer. I have owned more consoles than most. I have no system, game franchise, or corporate loyalty. I play PC games from the 90s for nostalgia, Nintendo games with my son, sony exclusives... I've trophy farmed with the best of them. I platinumed Uncharted before you knew what Uncharted was. For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot fathom why any rational, red blooded American video game player would have anything bad to say about Xbox. And no, trying to get me to boo hoo about developers losing money isn't going to cut it in a post-gamergate world. 99% of studio costs are bloat to bring women and men dressing as women onboard for panoramic goodboy social media pictures.

The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening, and has nothing to do with actually playing video games. They have an amazing sale right now: I just bought so many ps3 era games for like, 4$. Why? Because I don't want to keep a PS3 plugged in in my living room, with a jet-engine volume level disc drive burning a hole through my entertainment center, just to be able to play Bioshock. Now, with a 3$ purchase, I'll have access to that game for the next 20 years, digitally. There is no way, as a consumer and fellow gamer, you could hear that and be like "yeah... but," unless you are an Indian paid by Sony to post "yeah... but".
 
I got my first Playstation in 1997. I got the PS2 at launch, and the fat PS3 before anyone knew if bluray would win out. I had a PS4 at launch.

Somewhere in there, at some point in time, I bought an XboxOne to play with a buddy of mine who moved far away. I downloaded a bunch of exclusives, then sold it off after a year or 2 of not playing. Fast forward to the pandemic, and I had money to burn and boredom to kill, so I bought an S series, figuring what the hell, it's economical and Gamepass seemed intriguing.

I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward. Then I plunked down my cash for gamepass, and signed on figuring it would be some sort of scam. Nope--great full-length games, available to download at my liesure.

I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

I am a rational, middle-aged consumer. I have owned more consoles than most. I have no system, game franchise, or corporate loyalty. I play PC games from the 90s for nostalgia, Nintendo games with my son, sony exclusives... I've trophy farmed with the best of them. I platinumed Uncharted before you knew what Uncharted was. For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot fathom why any rational, red blooded American video game player would have anything bad to say about Xbox. And no, trying to get me to boo hoo about developers losing money isn't going to cut it in a post-gamergate world. 99% of studio costs are bloat to bring women and men dressing as women onboard for panoramic goodboy social media pictures.

The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening, and has nothing to do with actually playing video games. They have an amazing sale right now: I just bought so many ps3 era games for like, 4$. Why? Because I don't want to keep a PS3 plugged in in my living room, with a jet-engine volume level disc drive burning a hole through my entertainment center, just to be able to play Bioshock. Now, with a 3$ purchase, I'll have access to that game for the next 20 years, digitally. There is no way, as a consumer and fellow gamer, you could hear that and be like "yeah... but," unless you are an Indian paid by Sony to post "yeah... but".
Legit one of the most cringe posts I have ever read on here, bravo
 
I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward.
Yeah. It's called backwards compatibility. It was in many of those PS systems you claim to have.
 
I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.
If it was just this site, I might be on board. Even their own social media warriors (that are compensated) are turning on them.
 
I got my first Playstation in 1997. I got the PS2 at launch, and the fat PS3 before anyone knew if bluray would win out. I had a PS4 at launch.

Somewhere in there, at some point in time, I bought an XboxOne to play with a buddy of mine who moved far away. I downloaded a bunch of exclusives, then sold it off after a year or 2 of not playing. Fast forward to the pandemic, and I had money to burn and boredom to kill, so I bought an S series, figuring what the hell, it's economical and Gamepass seemed intriguing.

I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward. Then I plunked down my cash for gamepass, and signed on figuring it would be some sort of scam. Nope--great full-length games, available to download at my liesure.

I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

I am a rational, middle-aged consumer. I have owned more consoles than most. I have no system, game franchise, or corporate loyalty. I play PC games from the 90s for nostalgia, Nintendo games with my son, sony exclusives... I've trophy farmed with the best of them. I platinumed Uncharted before you knew what Uncharted was. For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot fathom why any rational, red blooded American video game player would have anything bad to say about Xbox. And no, trying to get me to boo hoo about developers losing money isn't going to cut it in a post-gamergate world. 99% of studio costs are bloat to bring women and men dressing as women onboard for panoramic goodboy social media pictures.

The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening, and has nothing to do with actually playing video games. They have an amazing sale right now: I just bought so many ps3 era games for like, 4$. Why? Because I don't want to keep a PS3 plugged in in my living room, with a jet-engine volume level disc drive burning a hole through my entertainment center, just to be able to play Bioshock. Now, with a 3$ purchase, I'll have access to that game for the next 20 years, digitally. There is no way, as a consumer and fellow gamer, you could hear that and be like "yeah... but," unless you are an Indian paid by Sony to post "yeah... but".


 
I got my first Playstation in 1997. I got the PS2 at launch, and the fat PS3 before anyone knew if bluray would win out. I had a PS4 at launch.

Somewhere in there, at some point in time, I bought an XboxOne to play with a buddy of mine who moved far away. I downloaded a bunch of exclusives, then sold it off after a year or 2 of not playing. Fast forward to the pandemic, and I had money to burn and boredom to kill, so I bought an S series, figuring what the hell, it's economical and Gamepass seemed intriguing.

I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward. Then I plunked down my cash for gamepass, and signed on figuring it would be some sort of scam. Nope--great full-length games, available to download at my liesure.

I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

I am a rational, middle-aged consumer. I have owned more consoles than most. I have no system, game franchise, or corporate loyalty. I play PC games from the 90s for nostalgia, Nintendo games with my son, sony exclusives... I've trophy farmed with the best of them. I platinumed Uncharted before you knew what Uncharted was. For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot fathom why any rational, red blooded American video game player would have anything bad to say about Xbox. And no, trying to get me to boo hoo about developers losing money isn't going to cut it in a post-gamergate world. 99% of studio costs are bloat to bring women and men dressing as women onboard for panoramic goodboy social media pictures.

The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening, and has nothing to do with actually playing video games. They have an amazing sale right now: I just bought so many ps3 era games for like, 4$. Why? Because I don't want to keep a PS3 plugged in in my living room, with a jet-engine volume level disc drive burning a hole through my entertainment center, just to be able to play Bioshock. Now, with a 3$ purchase, I'll have access to that game for the next 20 years, digitally. There is no way, as a consumer and fellow gamer, you could hear that and be like "yeah... but," unless you are an Indian paid by Sony to post "yeah... but".

When I read "I had my first PlayStation in 1997," I already knew it was a "look how much better the Xbox is, it converted a PlayStation superfan" post

Don't you guys, I don't know, bots, Astroturfing, organized fanboys on Discord, spew the same filth all over the internet?
I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

If I were an Astroturfer, the first thing I would do is accuse EVERYONE ELSE of being an Astroturfer.
 
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Another day.....another Xbox is dead thread

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It's what Japan called a "Zombie Division". Although in the case of Japan, it is about financially supporting failed businesses with government money. Xbox was a failed business that was supported by the Microsoft Enterprise money. The reason we are talking about it for so long is because a failed business doesn't usually improve unless they actually change what they are doing. And they usually don't change until they close down.

Xbox, had it been left to stand on its own, would have ceased operations last gen. Xbox had always burned money, and now the warchest is empty and MS is demanding that the empty chest be refilled. Xbox might not be allowed to die yet until they paid back some of the money spent.
 
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The best a PS fanboy can hope for is an Undead Xbox. MS has the money to tote its corpse around for centuries after you're all dead, bitches.
 
I got my first Playstation in 1997. I got the PS2 at launch, and the fat PS3 before anyone knew if bluray would win out. I had a PS4 at launch.

Somewhere in there, at some point in time, I bought an XboxOne to play with a buddy of mine who moved far away. I downloaded a bunch of exclusives, then sold it off after a year or 2 of not playing. Fast forward to the pandemic, and I had money to burn and boredom to kill, so I bought an S series, figuring what the hell, it's economical and Gamepass seemed intriguing.

I booted it up, and was greeted with a prompt to redownload all my old games. Hmmm? What's that mean? Surely they must be talking about compatible games? Nope. Every Xboxone game I had owned, I could bring forward. Then I plunked down my cash for gamepass, and signed on figuring it would be some sort of scam. Nope--great full-length games, available to download at my liesure.

I am going to say this as plainly as I can: I am convinced that the xbox hate on this website is not only completely inorganic, but a coordinated astroturf campaign by invested parties to tarnish Microsoft's reputation.

I am a rational, middle-aged consumer. I have owned more consoles than most. I have no system, game franchise, or corporate loyalty. I play PC games from the 90s for nostalgia, Nintendo games with my son, sony exclusives... I've trophy farmed with the best of them. I platinumed Uncharted before you knew what Uncharted was. For the LIFE OF ME, I cannot fathom why any rational, red blooded American video game player would have anything bad to say about Xbox. And no, trying to get me to boo hoo about developers losing money isn't going to cut it in a post-gamergate world. 99% of studio costs are bloat to bring women and men dressing as women onboard for panoramic goodboy social media pictures.

The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening, and has nothing to do with actually playing video games. They have an amazing sale right now: I just bought so many ps3 era games for like, 4$. Why? Because I don't want to keep a PS3 plugged in in my living room, with a jet-engine volume level disc drive burning a hole through my entertainment center, just to be able to play Bioshock. Now, with a 3$ purchase, I'll have access to that game for the next 20 years, digitally. There is no way, as a consumer and fellow gamer, you could hear that and be like "yeah... but," unless you are an Indian paid by Sony to post "yeah... but".
Hi Phil.
 
The steady drumbeat on here of Xbox being a failing brand is sickening
You know what is actually sickening?

When executives present themselves as "one of us," spouting PR talk and insulting the intelligence of "gamers," then you add influencers, shills, and ignorant/spineless media parroting those talking points, which your average fanboys listen to and believe ; creating the most toxic and retarded gaming discourse.

It's all about gaming; the games. So why the fuck do these morons at Xbox keep talking about "The Strategy," "The Vision," "The Xbox Community and fans," and "The Business Intentions" of their pivots, about how they're "saving gaming," but keep failing at the most fundamental part of this industry... making games? And when they talk about and promise games "at quality," they always keep disappointing their fans and the entire industry.

I'm peacefully enjoying the "death of Xbox" (you can't even imagine it), and I can't wait for another round of layoffs, studio closures, and all the shitshow around Xbox. Because every time it happens, I remember that NO ONE (especially Xbox-centric media and influencers) did their due diligence to inform people of the risks and inevitable negative outcomes of the Zenimax and ABK acquisitions. So, fuck 'em, fuck 'em real good and fuck'em harder every time they try to spin and damage control Phil´s mistakes while advocating for a garbage brand/company and strategy that doesn't even have a future.

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"Our acquisition"… and "our layoffs." Am I right? Isn't that sickening? To realize that every motherfucker pushing these acquisitions was also pushing for the layoffs, studio closures, and the complete disarray of the Xbox division?.....makes you think, uh?
 
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