Blargonaut
Banned
yeah, put me on the replacements list please
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Since cabot left and fep didn't want to the game, Blarg got that spot.
Blargonaut
Banned
Royal_Flush
Member
General question: Is there interest in further "Of Gods and Men" iterations? I may or may not be currently exploring new design space for God abilities and variations on the core mechanic. Wouldn't be anytime soon since I first want to finish Battlestar Galactica but I like having multiple projects at once.
Blargonaut
Banned
yes pls
Make sure to put a lot of effort in crazy God powers only for that role to get killed day 1!
Strongly agree with you here. We had a whole 6 hour period of sign-ups ...
We should find another way to manage this process. The argument for "Doctor" sign-ups was that is was only a mini-game, yet we experience the same here. Someone brought up, that we should look for the same ranking process we use during main season.
Have a longer phase of sign-up, prioritize people who played the fewest of all.
Royal_Flush
Member
Didn't we do this for 4.5 and/or 5.5 anyway?
Yeah we solved this several seasons ago. Minimum sign up period, assign by priority as we do for main seasons.
I don't mind missing this one as I've probably played my fair share lately anyway, but for everyone's sake we should go back to doing this in future.
omg can I review your BSG game?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
I can't vote out cabot? Game ruined.
I ruined L_Ps game? Day made.
glad you came back
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I'm not sure we're ready for this Nin revision.
Barrylocke
Member
Set me as a replacement for Pokemon mafia please.
TheGoddamn
Member
I'd also like to be a replacement for Pokemon mafia : >
This is a good point, and I'll start looking into it and discuss it.
Yes.
Sorry to double post, but I want to bring this to everyone's attention:
After the discussion in the season 6 review thread, I spent some time working with a bunch of other members of the community, and we worked up a series of rules for player behavior. I would like to get general feedback on these now.
After the discussion in the season 6 review thread, I spent some time working with a bunch of other members of the community, and we worked up a series of rules for player behavior. I would like to get general feedback on these now.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
I made cabot's day? Day ruined.
I should also add that we have also written guidelines for how moderators are going to be expected to handle situations where these rules are broken. These guidelines are designed to account for accidents and emotional situations, and only target recurring behavior. If you get angry and call another player a dumbass in the heat of the moment, we understand that. If you do it to everyone during every day phase, we have a problem. We're not going to become a crazed dictatorship, but we want to make sure that everyone is aware of where the lines are, and what will happen if they are crossed. Ignorance is no longer an excuse.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DOWN WITH RETROMG >:O
UP WITH DADDYMG \o/
melonrabbit
Member
Next time, friend.
weemadarthur
Member
These seem reasonable for things that have happened in the past. Perhaps one more indicating that moderators may redirect behavior during a game, and all players will be expected to have paid attention?
Mods always have final authority in a game and can, of course, intervene on any issue we see fit and Retro has/is finishing the guidelines that we're expected to follow as well when running games.
CrimsonFist
Member
Seems like there's enough replacements, so I'll take spec thread for pokemon.
While Sorian is correct that Mods always have the ultimate authority in their games, I agree that this should be stated in the guidelines. I will add it.
OVERRIDE
Royal_Flush
Member
Well then, on to Design...
Sure. Design (nailing down core principles and mechanics as well as some of the roles that directly serve those) is basically done, but it's still in an early stage of Development (filling the game with other roles, looking for game-breaking interactions and balancing)
No, why, I didn't read too many "Making Magic" articles or something, not at all.
AbsolutBro
Member
I swear one day I'll get to actually working on Rick and Morty Mafia!
also HI!
also HI!
Blargonaut
Banned
Oh so NX isn't a joke suggestion? I'll check it out then.
Midway through Animal Crossing, so I'll get around to it in a while
NX is definitely a joke suggestion. Make it one of your last.
AC is a good start, Star Wars or Archer I'd go for next.
Don't listen to them. If you want the good stuff, you go with the original game, where death was on the line. No nonsense, no gimmicks, just mafia and town slugging it out.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=958765
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=958765
Despite what anyone says, it is not a joke suggestion from me. It is the most entertaining game. It is pretty long for the low amount of players and you'll see a lot of crazy stuff, but it is soooo much fun. Go for it
NX is a prime example of what not to do in a Mafia game. Unless you're Ouro and you nobly sacrifice yourself to catch scum.
The worst, most upsetting, boot-to-the-face part of NX was pre-determined by the setup. Everything else is , well....they put us in the jungle, and we lost our civilized manner.
Yeah sorry-an. It was bad play from most players. That's why you read it last.
Second part of Ouro's point is subjective....
Since I've heard little to no argument on the proposed rules, I want to take a moment to talk about moderating. Going forward into season 7, moderators are going to be expected to watch their games closely and proactively stepping into situations where the above guidelines are broken. They will, of course, use their own judgement on this, and will also be aided by the overseers. (The mods of the previous season.)
If you believe that someone is behaving offensively and a moderator is not stepping in, you are encouraged to message your game's moderator. The moderator will then privately make a decision on how to deal with the issue. It may be a warning, it may be replacing the player, or it may be nothing at all. This decision will be final.
If there are multiple instances of offensive behavior from the same person, at least two mods will look into the situation and decide how to handle it. (Based on previous experience, the discussion will likely occur in modchat on Discord.) Again, the decision made by these mods will be final.
We have also set down guidelines for dealing with a player who behaves offensively over the course of multiple games, which could involve asking that player to no longer be part of the Gafia community. We've never had to ask someone to leave Gafia before, and I earnestly hope that we never will. Batsnacks told me once that we're the first Mafia community that he's seen that doesn't have a ban list, and I'm very proud of that fact. This is a great group of people, and I don't want anyone to leave.
That's kind of a high level overview of how conflict resolution is going to work from a moderator's point of view going forward.
The key is, though, that this will involve your buy-in as players. It means that you're going to have to trust the moderators to be impartial, and to have the game's and the community's best interests at heart. It also means respecting the decisions that are made even when you don't agree with them.
So far we've all been pretty good about it, and I hope that will continue. Thoughts?
PS: One more thing. We're not looking at setting up a dictatorship, and we're not going to try and make everyone sing kumbaya. This is Mafia. It's a game about killing one another. What we're looking at is making sure that this game about lying and murder doesn't seriously hurt anyone, if that makes sense. If you like to play aggressively, we're not going to make you stop, we're just going to make sure you don't cross the line into hurtful.
If you believe that someone is behaving offensively and a moderator is not stepping in, you are encouraged to message your game's moderator. The moderator will then privately make a decision on how to deal with the issue. It may be a warning, it may be replacing the player, or it may be nothing at all. This decision will be final.
If there are multiple instances of offensive behavior from the same person, at least two mods will look into the situation and decide how to handle it. (Based on previous experience, the discussion will likely occur in modchat on Discord.) Again, the decision made by these mods will be final.
We have also set down guidelines for dealing with a player who behaves offensively over the course of multiple games, which could involve asking that player to no longer be part of the Gafia community. We've never had to ask someone to leave Gafia before, and I earnestly hope that we never will. Batsnacks told me once that we're the first Mafia community that he's seen that doesn't have a ban list, and I'm very proud of that fact. This is a great group of people, and I don't want anyone to leave.
That's kind of a high level overview of how conflict resolution is going to work from a moderator's point of view going forward.
The key is, though, that this will involve your buy-in as players. It means that you're going to have to trust the moderators to be impartial, and to have the game's and the community's best interests at heart. It also means respecting the decisions that are made even when you don't agree with them.
So far we've all been pretty good about it, and I hope that will continue. Thoughts?
PS: One more thing. We're not looking at setting up a dictatorship, and we're not going to try and make everyone sing kumbaya. This is Mafia. It's a game about killing one another. What we're looking at is making sure that this game about lying and murder doesn't seriously hurt anyone, if that makes sense. If you like to play aggressively, we're not going to make you stop, we're just going to make sure you don't cross the line into hurtful.
To answer a question that was asked in Discord, no, we're not starting Season 7 now. Pokemon Mafia just started, and we will be taking submissions for S7 games until Pokemon ends. Once Pokemon ends, Overwatch Mafia will run. During that time, we will refine the S7 setups and conduct signups and voting for Season 7.