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I'm personally referring to the actual pen and pager RPG, but the Vampire video games have always been surprisingly good.
So I know Crab has his guide that he gives out to the mods here and there, but I thought about putting together a bit more specific to GAFia, based on the lessons I've learned through my excellent storied slipshod career as moderator/mentor here.
This guide covers roles, balancing, priority of actions, win conditions, voting, replacements, and a few other things, and it's still being worked on, but for the most part it's got the main information in there.
I posted it in Discord, figured I'd throw a link here as well.
If you have any comments, feel free to post them here or PM me on GAF or Discord.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B9JHhb1KRkPpKomG89mqGoAR--dztEy2HsYNV69IlvA/edit?usp=sharing
This guide covers roles, balancing, priority of actions, win conditions, voting, replacements, and a few other things, and it's still being worked on, but for the most part it's got the main information in there.
I posted it in Discord, figured I'd throw a link here as well.
If you have any comments, feel free to post them here or PM me on GAF or Discord.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B9JHhb1KRkPpKomG89mqGoAR--dztEy2HsYNV69IlvA/edit?usp=sharing
I don't see the section specifically about making cabot post in memes and how funny that can be 
If I missed it and you did talk about what is in the spoiler text then....uh....I'm tired and my eyes were glazed over when I was reading?
Did you want to include anything about extraneous mechanics and what can be good, what can be bad, and overall what should be considered with them? Citing your thoughts from the mission mechanic in Archer which I know you say taught you a lot.
If I missed it and you did talk about what is in the spoiler text then....uh....I'm tired and my eyes were glazed over when I was reading?
I don't see the section specifically about making cabot post in memes and how funny that can be
Did you want to include anything about extraneous mechanics and what can be good, what can be bad, and overall what should be considered with them? Citing your thoughts from the mission mechanic in Archer which I know you say taught you a lot.
If I missed it and you did talk about what is in the spoiler text then....uh....I'm tired and my eyes were glazed over when I was reading?
I was planning on it, but not yet.
I said "arguably bastard," but from the mafiascum wiki: "Because it is easier to choose who is likely to be targeted by scum at Night than it is to determine who performs the scum kill, Watcher is considerably more powerful than Tracker. In addition, because having the name of a scum to lynch is better than having someone confirmed Town due to being targeted by the Mafia kill, Watcher is more powerful than Doctor. Last, because the meta is such that Cops and Trackers are more anticipated power roles than Watchers, Watcher has been considered more "cheap" than both of them. As a result, Watcher is a particularly strong power role with negative connotations associated with it."
They're arguably stronger than any other investigative role. They're bastard in that a Watcher is going to very quickly learn the names of all other power roles. It's MUCH easier to guess the scum's target than it is to guess the scum's killer.
I'd say Watcher > Role Cop > Follower > Tracker > Voyeur
CrimsonFist
Member
At least gossip arsonist isn't bastard.
Surprisingly balanced
Hyperactivity
Banned
Ouro, I would split Motion Detector into a Tracker and Watcher variants. One that would be both, especially without clarification, seems somewhat useless.
One that gets a clarifaction is decently more powerful than the type that can only do one.
The Cthulhu variant, for example, could only sense actions done by the target
One that gets a clarifaction is decently more powerful than the type that can only do one.
The Cthulhu variant, for example, could only sense actions done by the target
I don't remember receiving this when I was working on the Harry Potter game.
Chances are I did and ignored it anyway.
Hyperactivity
Banned
South?
Typically a Motion Detector does both - it tells you if any roles were done on or performed by the target.
Otherwise, I have Tracker and Watcher already in there.
I want Suge Knight to be scum but I want Tupac to be town :/
Oh really? I hadn't seen that before...
Hyperactivity
Banned
Have we had that variant on GAFIA before?
Tupac gets to keep playing after getting killed?
I don't think we've ever used it but yeah, that's what a motion detector is in its vanilla state. Easily, the weakest investigative role imo but it has it's place.
CrimsonFist
Member
Think there was a motion detector in Princess.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Motion detector feels sort of like what you want to add if you feel a team is a little weak, but not by much
It definitely works best at end game imo, and still requires scum-hunting to be applied to the results to truly be effective
It definitely works best at end game imo, and still requires scum-hunting to be applied to the results to truly be effective
I will never remember what roles were in princess. Too much went unused :V
Motion detector is something I would expect to see in a very vanilla game. Like I could have seen town or scum in love boat getting a motion detector instead of having two trackers in the game.
CrimsonFist
Member
Incidentally, VI had a Motion Detector or 2
VI's bestow power roles were very vanilla, and mostly useless.
As my boy Tupac once said:
fuck Mobb Deep,
fuck Biggie,
fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fucking crew.
And if you want to be down with Bad Boy,
Then fuck you too.
Chino XL, fuck you too.
All you mother fuckers,
fuck you too.
There's your scum team.
Incidentally, VI had a Motion Detector or 2
By nature, I'm glad there was a lot of vanilla and mostly useless powers via bestow in VI. It was the point and why I was chucking my powers in the trashcan (though mine ended up being one of the more useful ones I think). It tempered some of the crazy because people could only hold the 3 powers. VI was a very clever game only hurt by the king situation and the easy feedback loop that scum could fall into (both positive or negative) down in the afterlife.
yeah but what do we do about Suge?
As scum, the switcher power was FAR from useless. #SwitcherOrgy was the best thing that came out of it.
MOTHERFUCKER. That would've been amazing to play in
lol
Hyperactivity
Banned
MOTHERFUCKER. That would've been amazing to play in
it was. one of my favorite games actually
sign me up as a replacement btw
not for batman though, Roy gave me some hints as to its design a while back
I see how it is....I'm trying to get a perfectly good game going, and you just jump in to be a replacement instead.
For the new page:
I knew you were good people Bronx, despite what everyone else was saying about you in Discord.
I'm leaving my place now but I'll reach out to everyone later tonight.
flatearthpandas
Member
Can I grab spec for gods?
Royal_Flush
Member
Got you.
snitch
Oh it's on now. IT'S ON.
I know you were legit the moment you appeared, thats why i put you in my game. You did good son
I hate you.