Is that so? We have a thread full of people crying over this.
Never cared too much about MS myself but, is it a fact that their demise has anything to do with putting their games on PC? Imo they've made other way bigger mistakes, mostly about mismanagement of their studios.
It is not a win on both side. Sony PS image is about exclusives since Ps1 era, that is why it sells. Principles and fan base is being killed. Then there will be no point to own a PS console. Sony is just falling to PC masters race trap and MS trap, which makes Nintendo the only platform with wisdom not to fall to that trap of porting exclusives.
If you think people on PC would just happily sign up for a PS+ or some other bullshit service, i have bad news.
I've been in that thread, but haven't seen people being bothered by it on a personal level. At least not that I noticed.
For MS, it's the sum of many things, but lack of exclusives definitely played a big part in it.
I am sorry if I sound rude but your reply seem to skip over like 70% of what I said.
I disagree. The fact that a game comes to PC or any other platform doesn't make it worse. You'll still get your TLOUs, your God of Wars and your Horizons, and those games will be of the same quality as they were if they were exclusives.
Ubisoft already does this but nobody cares. Crossplay and crossprogression are a must in any GaaS game.
I'd say otherwise judging by some 4 meters tall walls of text but let's leave it there.
They just had a very bad generation with almost no first-party cool stuff, neither on their own console nor anywhere else. 2025 looks better tho.
A store sure… but rivaling steam… lets not get crazy here
A single account with a buy once and play everywhere would be best.
Play everywhere could be a problem with Sony charging money for online savegames.
Probably would just be a side-hustle for them and the real use case of the store is to offer an all you can eat subscription of their PC games (PS+). Hopefully they would make any PC Store cross-buy and that would be another incentive to use it.
Their image was mostly about third-party exclusives. What games comes to mind when talking about ps1? Tekken, Final Fantasy, Ace Combat, Tomb Raider, Sillent Hill, Resident Evil, MGS. Looking back very few were actually produced by Sony themselves like Gran Turismo.
They will not. They already aren't.
It’s certainly a possibility. I wonder how it’s impacted Microsoft ?
Keep fapping to that hope - maybe it will happen!
It's free for Xbox users so if you get a pc you can continue playing without any sub.
The ballooning of game budgets has nothing to do with graphics fidelity. It's all organizational inefficiency.
You should've done that a long time ago my friend. PC is the best platform, period
There's no upside to it. A PS launcher on PC will only make the PC experience worse. I don't even like that Larian and CDPR put intermediate launchers in front of their games on Steam. Steam is as important to the PC experience as the whole PS5 system UI is to Playstation. There's no getting around it, and publishers should stop trying to get around it. Steam is the platform.
Yeah but that has nothing to do with PC, or are you implying otherwise?
The problem with MS is that for them, this is the norm.
They pioneered the concept during the Vita/PS3 era with plenty of games being cross-buy and cross-save
, why not go all out on exclusives and kill off Xbox before going down this road. Oh well it’s gona be end of PlayStation as we know it.
Yeah offer it via both, I use Steam but wouldn't mind a Playstation Store if I instantly owned all my PS5 first party games on PC via that.There's no upside to it. A PS launcher on PC will only make the PC experience worse. I don't even like that Larian and CDPR put intermediate launchers in front of their games on Steam. Steam is as important to the PC experience as the whole PS5 system UI is to Playstation. There's no getting around it, and publishers should stop trying to get around it. Steam is the platform.
As far as offering PS+ to PC gamers, Steam already provides for 3rd party subscription services like EA Play:
That's also doesn't help, but what i mean by "harder" is diminishing returns, it becomes harder and harder to impress people with just graphics and tech as those become better and more commonplace. Even ray-tracing got somewhat of a mixed reception.
I think he might be implying they are of higher quality on PC.
If they actually offered both, sure, fine I can ignore it. But it's a waste of development effort. Just integrate with Steam more. You don't need your own app to facilitate cross-buy (assuming they actually want to).
If that's the case then he didn't get my point at all lol.
It's not as if MS games sold well on Xbox.
And why should they give away these games for free? (in their eyes)
We know for a fact that the pipeline has already been compromised for the sake of PC porting from the Insomniac leak.
No, I just think that devs have taken the brute force mentality for mostly last gen looking games.
Because ray tracing is not inherently a visual enhancement so much as it is a pipeline shortcut that is actually too resource expensive to be called a shortcut.
Naughty Dig has a godlike budget and time to develop games, but Intergalactic barely looks any better than TLOU2. That's not because there's no more room to grow.
That's a lot of assumptions for what, in the end, is just asking another studio like Nixxes to do a port for cheap and rake some easy money.
Again, more assumptions. Maybe they just have worse developers than before or they cheaped out on QA.
Not assumptions. Again, it's in the Insomniac leak.
Whatever is "assumed" here is, again, just common sense. Backed up by history, recent and ancient.
