I'm sure in this sutuation we'd see a resurgance of sundials as a means to measure time more objectively.
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I'm sure in this sutuation we'd see a resurgance of sundials as a means to measure time more objectively.
GalacticSushiman
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That's the limit, the situation where you are alone and forgot to wind it up is just catastrophic. Good luck figuring out the right time with sun/stars
That's why I said in the post that, when alone, winding up your watch is something that you simply CAN'T forget. Write it on your hand, tattoo it on your face, just don't forget. I guess a nice power reserve will also help
Actually, dont automatic watches need oil changes/services every 3-5 years?
A quartz watch could hold out probably more than 10 years (some Casio models at least).. then again batteries will not be produced after a while and the produced ones will go bad over the years. Perhaps they can use oil made from zombies to relube the automatic watches after a few generations.
This is the reason why we are talking about hand wound, and not automatic
That said, Sinn developed an auto movement with an escapement that does not need oil to work properly (the DIAPAL model). So is the ultimate Zombie Apocalypse watch a Sinn? No winding, so no inextricable situation like above, and no oil. Case closed?
This is the reason why we are talking about hand wound, and not automatic
Handwind will still only take you from ~5 years to ~10 though! In terms of longevity, your still better off with a Tough Solar G-shock than you are with most hand-wound mechanicals.
That said, Sinn developed an auto movement with an escapement that does not need oil to work properly (the DIAPAL model). So is the ultimate Zombie Apocalypse watch a Sinn? No winding, so no inextricable situation like above, and no oil. Case closed?
Objection! For the sake of argument lets say this movement never needs to be serviced. A mechanical watch is still more prone to failure than a quartz by virtue of its complexity, and lacks a ton of functionality that would be critically useful in a zombie-based survival scenario! Hell, the LED light alone would sway me towards a G-shock.
You'd have to pry my mechanical watch from my cold dead wrist to make me give it up, but if I was kitting out a loved one with the toughest, most feature-rich, most reliable timepiece money could buy, it has to be a solar G-shock!
GalacticSushiman
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Double objections!
This actually implies 2 very questionable hypothesis:
First, you need to spend a large part of the day outside under the sun to keep the battery charged. Let's forget the fact that not every places are sunny (sorry Vancouver/Seattle people, no solar Gs for you
), but concentrate on a realistic day after zombie apocalypse: you would spend as much time as you can inside, hidden and protected, those guys working outside all day in Walking Dead are not that credible. Second, as much as I love and respect G-Shock, they still have a battery life like any other tool, which WUS estimates between 15 to 20 years..
This needs some kind of classification, but let's imagine earth develops a Walking Dead-like society (little communities protected from Zombies with people spending days outside), then G-Shock wins. If you are hidden most of the time and only get out of your safe haven (atomic shelter...) to loot swiftly (and during the night?), then the Sinn might prove a better choice.
(best discussion I had online in weeks
)Same with solar G's. The one I have on my wrist has been outside maybe 5 times in three months and has a full charge.
That said, the strap is starting to crack. Zombie G should come on a composite strap, not resin. Maybe a Protek is the way to go.
Edit: Defintely a ProTek. Look at these specs;
Specifications:
Electro-luminescent backlight
Full auto EL light, selectable illumination duration, afterglow
Solar powered
Low-temperature resistant (-10 °C/14 °F)
Digital compass
Measures and displays direction as one of 16 points
Measuring range: 0° to 359°
Measuring unit: 1°
20 seconds continuous measurement
Graphic direction pointer
Bidirectional calibration and northerly calibration function
Magnetic declination correction
Bearing memory
Altimeter
Measuring range: -700 to 10,000 m (-2,300 to 32,800 ft.)
Measuring unit: 5 m (20 ft.)
Manual memory measurements
(up to 25 records, each including altitude, date, time)
High Altitude / Low Altitude memory
Total Ascent / Descent memory
Others: Reference altitude setting, Altitude tendency graph, Altitude differential
*Changeover between meters (m) and feet (ft)
Barometer
Display range: 260 to 1,100 hPa (7.65 to 32.45 inHg)
Display unit: 1 hPa (0.05 inHg)
Atmospheric pressure tendency graph
Atmospheric pressure differential graphic
*Changeover between hPa and inHg
Thermometer
Display range: -10 to 60 °C (14 to 140 °F)
Display unit: 0.1 °C (0.2 °F)
*Changeover between Celsius (°C) and Fahrenheit (°F)
Duplex LC display
World time
31 time zones (48 cities), city code display, daylight saving on/off
Sunrise, sunset time display
Sunrise time and sunset time for specific date, Daylight pointers
1/100-second stopwatch
Measuring capacity: 23:59'59.99''
Measuring modes: Elapsed time, split time, 1st-2nd place times
Countdown timer
Measuring unit: 1 second
Countdown start time setting range: 24 hours
Countdown start time setting range: 1 minute to 24 hours (1- minute increments and 1-hour increments)
Daily alarms
5 independent daily alarms
Hourly time signal
Battery level indicator
Power save function (automatically disables LCD if the watch is left in the dark for approximately 60 to 70 minutes, and sensor measurements if the watch is left in the dark for six or seven days)
Full auto-calendar (to year 2099)
12/24-hour format
Button operation tone on/off
Regular timekeeping:
Hour, minute, second, pm, year, month, date, day
Accuracy: ±15 seconds per month
Approx. battery operating time:
6 months on rechargeable battery (operation period with normal use without exposure to light after charge)
23 months on rechargeable battery (operation period when stored in total darkness with the power save function on after full charge)
Size of case / total weight
PRG-240 : 57.3 X 50.9 X 15.3 mm / 65.4 g
GalacticSushiman
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Depends on the use, I assumed the light, chrono, etc... would be heavily used during Zombie time, and then I am not sure 5 minutes of light now and then will do.
Jason's Ultimatum
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This is a pretty nice looking Sinn 104 st watch:
PjotrStroganov
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I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Just a heads up, still selling some Panerais in the NYC/NJ area. Have a 424, 233, and FER00005 available.
flamingotripod
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How much cash money?
Jason's Ultimatum
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I think around $1200? Seems to be LE, too.
PjotrStroganov
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Change of scenery. Got my new straps and I think they work out fine.
GalacticSushiman
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They both look great, but I have to admit I just LOVE the SKX007 on nato: classy, but not too overt and overall MUCH better than the original rubber/bracelet. Congrats!
I am a big fan of the JeanRichard Terracope these days, thoughts watchgaf?
Jason's Ultimatum
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Not digging it, nor his other styles.
How much do you guys think the cost would be to get an IWC Mark XV/XVI serviced? Around $100 from an independent watch repair? Or does IWC modify the ETA movements to the point where it'll cost around $300-$500?
EDIT-Goddamn even the Tudor Black Bay servicing costs around $300. Bump that. I was hoping for some of the high end brands using ETA movements wouldn't cost so much to service. Oh well. Guess I better stick to low-mid level watch brands.
How much do you guys think the cost would be to get an IWC Mark XV/XVI serviced? Around $100 from an independent watch repair? Or does IWC modify the ETA movements to the point where it'll cost around $300-$500?
EDIT-Goddamn even the Tudor Black Bay servicing costs around $300. Bump that. I was hoping for some of the high end brands using ETA movements wouldn't cost so much to service. Oh well. Guess I better stick to low-mid level watch brands.
GalacticSushiman
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Thx for the opinion guys!
The Terrascope is clearly very derivative in terms of design - PP Nautilus in particular... - but I like the fact you pay mid end price for a high end casing (Girard Perregaux level basically). But I understand the design is specific and not to everyone taste.
I will not react on the high end with ETA comment, but you know what I think
The Terrascope is clearly very derivative in terms of design - PP Nautilus in particular... - but I like the fact you pay mid end price for a high end casing (Girard Perregaux level basically). But I understand the design is specific and not to everyone taste.
I will not react on the high end with ETA comment, but you know what I think
Jason's Ultimatum
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I'm curious what kind of watch the U.S. Consulate agent is wearing in Bourne Supremacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwaxFAC6rzk
The only two clear shots you get on the watch is at 2:04 and 2:37. At first I thought it was like some kind of military style Bulova, but now I don't know.
Any of you watch experts can take a guess?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwaxFAC6rzk
The only two clear shots you get on the watch is at 2:04 and 2:37. At first I thought it was like some kind of military style Bulova, but now I don't know.
Any of you watch experts can take a guess?
The latest Bourne was full of IWC watches I think. That could be a IWC flieger, although the hands look kinda thin, and it seems like the 12 o'clock arrow is pointing down, not up.
GalacticSushiman
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Not an IWC because of the triangle pointing down. Could be a Tag, maybe a Targa Florio, or simply a Fortis. Bourne had a deal with Tag Heuer at this time, so makes sense. But still, hard to determined with those shots...
chrisisawesome
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Can someone please explain to me the infatuation with the G-SHOCK watches?
Jason's Ultimatum
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I've tried googling the answer and came up with nothing. Maybe I'll try WUS.
Also, I don't think Damon at the time had a deal with tag. He's always had the tag link chrono and decided to wear it in identity.
Also, I don't think Damon at the time had a deal with tag. He's always had the tag link chrono and decided to wear it in identity.
GalacticSushiman
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Mmm, I doubt this as Matt Damon clearly is a Rolex guy as stated many times... But I heard the story of him keeping the Tag for a movie where there was no deal with Tag indeed. I'll take a look
EDIT: actually I can't find any real proof, just articles here and there claiming different stuff about what he wears privately being Tag or Rolex - with pictures - I am not sure what to think. Maybe he just wears a few different brands in private. No proof on the Tag before the Bourne movies either, but he kept on wearing it from time to time after... That's all I found
200m resistant, can be boiled, or frozen, dropped from the top of a building, ran over... and it will still last you 15 years
You can also add the customization, colors, the unique 80s' design style, and the VERY affordable price, and you have a winner.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
Damn my friend and his Omega PO. It's the larger size, but it doesn't feel like the height is 14mm thick. It looks thin. The lugs are damn long due to it being 45mm, so that would leave a Seiko Sumo out of the question.
Anway, I felt powerful wearing it.
Anway, I felt powerful wearing it.
They simply rock.
The picture of the awful G-shock next to the awesome Rolex isn't helping your case
PjotrStroganov
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The Rolex isn't even digital lol. Casio FTW!
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
oyster bracelet...gah..
They are cheap, reliable, highly accurate with atomic, no battery with solar, shock proof, 200M WR, balls tough, offer a variety of features for cheap, come in a variety styles and colors, widely available worldwide. They are the next step in quartz evolution.
GalacticSushiman
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PjotrStroganov
Member
If soldiers in Afghanistan wear G-Shocks you know they are build to last.
I've been eyeing these watches lately. Nicely styled affordable watches from Poland using a proven Seagull movement. The underdog background is part of the attraction for me.
It's a shame they don't sell this one anymore. It's what initially attracted me to the brand.
I've been eyeing these watches lately. Nicely styled affordable watches from Poland using a proven Seagull movement. The underdog background is part of the attraction for me.
It's a shame they don't sell this one anymore. It's what initially attracted me to the brand.
chrisisawesome
Member
Fair enough! Now I understand more. Not hating just curious.
nah, all G-Shocks are true G-Shocks.
He says, showing a 5600.
Let's call it the one true classic. Although I would also accept a 6600/6900. Or a Frogman, which isn't classic, but still ...
SkepticalPanda
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Hello fine wristwatch lovers.
So, I know nothing about watches and have suddenly shown a keen interest in accessorizing. I wore a (very bad) watch out this past weekend and was astonished how many people complimented its looks. So, I'm now in the market for a more expensive watch that might last me a couple of years.
As a reference for anyone who would mind helping me search for a nice watch, I really love the look of Stowa watches. Sure, their prices are madness but the watches are just beautiful. That pretty much sums up what I enjoy. I like leather straps, either brown or black leather. And a very simple face, either white, black or a subtle blue.
I don't want to spend my pension buying a new watch so I'm going to put a budget of $200 excluding shipping onto it. I know that sounds utterly ridiculous but that's thanks to the exchange rate where I'm from. If anyone manages to find a watch that they think I would enjoy in Durban, South Africa, then my budget is R2000. (Rand).
Thanks in advance for your help guys.
So, I know nothing about watches and have suddenly shown a keen interest in accessorizing. I wore a (very bad) watch out this past weekend and was astonished how many people complimented its looks. So, I'm now in the market for a more expensive watch that might last me a couple of years.
As a reference for anyone who would mind helping me search for a nice watch, I really love the look of Stowa watches. Sure, their prices are madness but the watches are just beautiful. That pretty much sums up what I enjoy. I like leather straps, either brown or black leather. And a very simple face, either white, black or a subtle blue.
I don't want to spend my pension buying a new watch so I'm going to put a budget of $200 excluding shipping onto it. I know that sounds utterly ridiculous but that's thanks to the exchange rate where I'm from. If anyone manages to find a watch that they think I would enjoy in Durban, South Africa, then my budget is R2000. (Rand).
Thanks in advance for your help guys.
GalacticSushiman
Member
Hello Panda, did you have look at Rodina?
It's derivative of Bauhaus/Stowa dials, and has a simple Chinese industrial movement, but it does tick all your boxes, and should last you 2 years
SkepticalPanda
Member
Hey there, firstly thanks for the redirect over here from the Manshion thread. I've been meaning to look for a watch for a while now and have scrolled through here but honestly never payed much attention.Hello Panda. It's derivative of Bauhaus/Stowa dials, and has a simple Chinese industrial movement, but it does tick all your boxes, and should last you 2 years
Secondly, that watch is absolutely beautiful. I really like the simplicity. Just a question on quality and durability, do you know how durable the watch would be? Obviously I'm not about to smash it against walls and whatnot but for everyday use should it be okay?
I bought mine from that same exact seller months ago. The strap is definitely the weakest link (the $12 replacement strap I got from amazon feels twice as expensive as the default one) but it feels really well made. It's hands down my favorite watch and I wear it 3 out 5 days of the workweek.
GalacticSushiman
Member
Thanks for stopping by, it was a bit slow over here in the past few days
I never owned a Rodina, but I did have a Seagull powered tourbillon with a chinese casing, which should be similar to the Rodina, so shortly:
Seagull movements are choc resistant, and the Stainless steel casing, and sapphire crystal are usually acceptable quality, which means it can take a 'normal' everyday use without any issue.
As it is a dressy watch, I would take it out for 'dangerous' situations (mountain biking, repairing stuff in your apartment, water activities - 5 ATM means basically you can keep it for washing your hands but nothing more, etc.).
Last, I would not buy this watch if it was for a much longer period than a couple of years, let's imagine you want a watch for your next 15 years, I would advise on something much more sturdy and easy to service, as the Seagull movement is a bit 'exotic' it might be hard to find specialist who can service it easily.
Welcome to the wonderful world of watches
SkepticalPanda
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Seems really cool. It certainly wouldn't be a watch that I would wear for longer than two years, at max. I finish school in two years and its also a tradition that at the end of school and before starting your degree you get bought a watch in my family. My mom already knows that I have an eye on a Stowa so she would prefer a "cheaper" alternative in the mean time. This watch seems like the perfect fit.Seagull movements are choc resistant, and the Stainless steel casing, and sapphire crystal are usually acceptable quality, which means it can take a 'normal' everyday use without any issue.
As it is a dressy watch, I would take it out for 'dangerous' situations (mountain biking, repairing stuff in your apartment, water activities - 5 ATM means basically you can keep it for washing your hands but nothing more, etc.).
Last, I would not buy this watch if it was for a much longer period than a couple of years, let's imagine you want a watch for your next 15 years, I would advise on something much more sturdy and easy to service, as the Seagull movement is a bit 'exotic' it might be hard to find specialist who can service it easily.
Welcome to the wonderful world of watches
Thanks for your input regarding the watch! Do you have a link to this replacement strap? One thing that would need to be of good quality would be the strap because I'm constantly moving around and having it rub against me.
Dammit, quite irritated right now. Was literally about to pull the trigger on the watch when I noticed that 1. Its not brand new and 2. It doesn't ship to my country. This sucks.
The ebay listing is for a new item. I can't help you with the shipping though. Try the seller's direct site here as well. The guy responds to email so you can try asking him about shipping to your country.
The replacement band I bought but haven't put on the watch yet is this.
Oh and the default band isn't uncomfortable at all. It's actually very soft in that it feels too soft/thin instead of how i expect leather to feel.
SkepticalPanda
Member
Thanks for the help. Just shot off an email to him seeing if we could have it shipped here. If that's all good then I'm ready to buy it. Such a beautiful watch.
GalacticSushiman
Member
WatchGAF, such an 'enablers' bunch
Keep us posted on this! And don't forget the wrist pic if you pull the trigger
I have a Rodina (black dial) and its really quite nice. the band is the weakest part of it but I got a replacement thats a bit thicker and it works OK.
Of course, my problem is that I liked the Rodina so much I ended up upgrading to a Stowa Antea to get a nicer movement and better build quality.
So thats a risk
Of course, my problem is that I liked the Rodina so much I ended up upgrading to a Stowa Antea to get a nicer movement and better build quality.
So thats a risk
GalacticSushiman
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I have a Rodina (black dial) and it’s really quite nice. the band is the weakest part of it but I got a replacement that’s a bit thicker and it works OK.
Of course, my problem is that I liked the Rodina so much I ended up upgrading to a Stowa Antea to get a nicer movement and better build quality.
So that’s a risk
If you really want to improve the movement quality in particular, I would advise to have a look at Nomos, at least a few leagues above Stowa
I pulled the trigger on a GSHOCK this week end after a few months of watch drought, that Pwack comment on the similar shape with the Nautilus got to me
Collection down to a dressy, GO PML, a casual, Botta TRES, and a beater (mainly for biking and swiming), the 5600. I am not sure I'll keep the Botta tbh, but I need a diver/sporty high end as my next piece. APRO is still my favorite, but it could change
If you really want to improve the movement quality in particular, I would advise to have a look at Nomos, at least a few leagues above Stowa
you missed an earlier post of mine from a previous week
I then got a nomos club. (black dial) manual wind. no date.
So now I got a stowa antea white dial which is a bit dressy and the nomos club which looks more casual and is my daily driver. Mix and match as needed.
(nomos was lightly used off ebay - looks brand new - for half price, hence my quick jump after just buying the stowa)