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NeoGAF Timepiece Thread Of Fine Wristwatches

Pic dont work! :(

Yes, I am ashamed. My image as a watch guru is forever destroyed. :/

The strangest thing in this story is that you managed to start with Vostok, clearly a brand only discussed by 'afficionados', not knowing Swatch, the brand that my Grandma would say first - even before the mighty Rolex - when asked about watches. What a paradoxical post. Hence my reaction :p

LOL at the watch guru thing :p

edit: oh and the pic does work :)

Why are all watches so beautiful? I mean, both watches that have been posted as suggestions are absolutely amazing. The only thing I don't like about ordering overseas is paying it into a PayPal account. There's been numerous incidents reported in our country wherein even with PayPal's support, oftentimes the money will never be returned if a deal goes sower. Its something to do with the laws here. I'd rather pay R1k more and ensure I get the product instead of losing out on R2k+ and being disappointed.

I sense that something is happening, beware my friend, you are on a slippery slope :)
 

pwack

Member
http://www.baume-et-mercier.com/en-us/classima-8791.html

It's not quite 40mm, but at least it's not 42mm+ like seemingly every watch I see advertised nowadays. My wrists are 7", but I prefer smaller cases. My diver's already big enough.

It seems to me like Frederique Constant fills the same niche as Baume et Mercier and Maurice LaCroix, but with a better rep. That said, it is hard to find a FC with blued steel hands. Here's as close as I got to what you are looking at:

81pctDOHBZL._SL1500_.jpg

Similar style. Running a FC caliber based off an ETA movement, so Mr. Sushiman won't love it. But also pretty inexpensive via grey market dealers like JomaShop. Could also email Arizona Fine Time, as I think they are a FC authorized dealer.

http://www.frederique-constant.com/en/collections/96/fc-303mc4p6

Also, while this is 10mm, my understanding is that under <10mm height puts you into "ultra thin" territory. Meaning quartz movements or very expensive automatics.
 
http://www.baume-et-mercier.com/en-us/classima-8791.html

It's not quite 40mm, but at least it's not 42mm+ like seemingly every watch I see advertised nowadays. My wrists are 7", but I prefer smaller cases. My diver's already big enough.

Well, with all due respect this one falls quite exactly in the overpriced category. At least the Frederic Constant has a bit more modifications and a more respectable price point.

Obviously in this price range I would always advise for a Nomos Tangente 38 Datum. Much better bang for your bucks, and you keep the date and blue hands :)

D_130_TangDat37_464x396_2.jpg
 
White dial. Non-digital. The hands were red I believe. I know, it's not much to go by, but I remember seeing it discussed here on GAF before and I was hoping someone remembered it. I know that whatever brand or model it was, there was an almost identical wall-clock version of it
 

pwack

Member
White dial. Non-digital. The hands were red I believe. I know, it's not much to go by, but I remember seeing it discussed here on GAF before and I was hoping someone remembered it. I know that whatever brand or model it was, there was an almost identical wall-clock version of it

Mondaine? Only one red hand, but famous Swiss railway clock design. Likeness stolen by Apple recently.

 

Boken

Banned
That's probably a troll

Took a picture of a case that a watch seller was putting away. Some of the watches were girls watches.
 
That's probably a troll

Took a picture of a case that a watch seller was putting away. Some of the watches were girls watches.

Are you joking?

This is CLEARLY the collection of a woman, or respectfully someone with very feminine tastes. The AP Royal Oak Offshore is a 44-46mm+ watch for men, here it's clearly the 38mm model for women, and the rest of the timepieces are all covered with diamonds, except the Explorer/GMT Master (although I think their bracelet includes some jewel in the middle)... Also, in luxury store, cases are rare, everything is on display, and when watches are in cases, it's not a strange mix of AP, Rolexes and Mullers, but just one brand.

I love the AP ROO, but I always thought of it as a pure male watch. So I guess the least atrocious piece here is the Hublot Big Bang, which is crazy given how much I hate the brand and model :)
 

Ostinatto

Member
guys, i'm going to NYC in a couple of months, and i want to buy a Rolex for my father's birthday. i'm looking for a stainless steel Datejust, oyster or jubilee band (116200).

rolex.com doesn't show any prices of their products, the same for wempe.com :(.

alanmarcusco.com has this watch for $5610, but his store is in Washington. http://www.alanmarcusco.com/noframes/ro116200sio.htm

does anyone know how to buy this watch at similar price in NYC? :D
 
Are you surprised by a male top athlete's love of bling?

Love of bling? Not at all!! But love for some diamond encrusted AP RO lady models? OH FUCK YEAH I AM SURPRISED.

I thought that was a given...:p

Given the huge success of watches worn by porn stars and athletes, it's never a bad thing to restate it in public from time to time :)

guys, i'm going to NYC in a couple of months, and i want to buy a Rolex for my father's birthday. i'm looking for a stainless steel Datejust, oyster or jubilee band (116200).

rolex.com doesn't show any prices of their products, the same for wempe.com :(.

alanmarcusco.com has this watch for $5610, but his store is in Washington. http://www.alanmarcusco.com/noframes/ro116200sio.htm

does anyone know how to buy this watch at similar price in NYC? :D

So, first Rolex being Rolex, don't expect price for new pieces to vary a lot, basically you can get MSRP - 10% maybe -15% if you are super good and the AD is trying hard, but never more. So this price you saw online is very competitive, but nothing crazy, just FYI, ordering online is always a little cheaper than buying in an AD.

I would advise to create an account on watchuseek and ask there for recommendation on the best NY shops, I can only give my blessing for Jomashop in Brooklyn, but I only interacted with them online, I am not even sure they have a front store, maybe just a PO box... You can contact them though.

Finally, open to other recommendations at similar price point? :D
 

Blu10

Member
Has anyone here had (or have) a ball watch? If so, what are your thoughts on the gas tubes on more of a classic watch... Is it garish, does and remind you of Vegas, or is it subdued and fitting for that type of watch?
 

Ostinatto

Member
So, first Rolex being Rolex, don't expect price for new pieces to vary a lot, basically you can get MSRP - 10% maybe -15% if you are super good and the AD is trying hard, but never more. So this price you saw online is very competitive, but nothing crazy, just FYI, ordering online is always a little cheaper than buying in an AD.

I would advise to create an account on watchuseek and ask there for recommendation on the best NY shops, I can only give my blessing for Jomashop in Brooklyn, but I only interacted with them online, I am not even sure they have a front store, maybe just a PO box... You can contact them though.

Finally, open to other recommendations at similar price point? :D

just got a response from Rolex Boutique:

Thank you for contacting our Rolex Boutique. The model you are interested in costs $6,600 (price does not include 8.875% NY sales tax)



The dial options are divided by styles:

Index dials: white, silver, pink, blue, black, steel/silver, silver/black.
Roman numeral dials: white, rhodium, blue, black.
Arabic numerals: silver decorated arab/blue, black arab concentric.
Floral motif dials: silver, pink, bronze.

:( dat tax.
 

pwack

Member
Has anyone here had (or have) a ball watch? If so, what are your thoughts on the gas tubes on more of a classic watch... Is it garish, does and remind you of Vegas, or is it subdued and fitting for that type of watch?

I've only handled briefly, but wasn't a fan. Too garish.

just got a response from Rolex Boutique:



:( dat tax.

Have you considered buying used? There are dealers who have stellar reputations for transacting in used Rolexes. You will pay less than retail and avoid tax. Google people named LawrenceB or DavidSW, or check what they currently have for sale in Datejusts here:

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=datejust&last_days=0&user_name=LawrenceB
http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=datejust&last_days=0&user_name=DAVIDSW

As someone who just bought a relatively expensive watch used from a well-respected seller, I am very thankful that I did.
 
I've only handled briefly, but wasn't a fan. Too garish.



Have you considered buying used? There are dealers who have stellar reputations for transacting in used Rolexes. You will pay less than retail and avoid tax. Google people named LawrenceB or DavidSW, or check what they currently have for sale in Datejusts here:

http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=datejust&last_days=0&user_name=LawrenceB
http://www.watchrecon.com/?query=datejust&last_days=0&user_name=DAVIDSW

As someone who just bought a relatively expensive watch used from a well-respected seller, I am very thankful that I did.

I've been on the rolex forums (rolexforums.com) and DavidSW has a lot of positive feedback. Check out the buy and sell section on that forum to see what else he has available. Seems like a good option.
 

Oh, it's just the beginning of a long negotiation, I never paid taxes (and they are far higher here in Quebec) from an AD, not sure for a boutique though.

I quite agree with the above comments, going used is your best bet, especially if you want to go Rolex, you don't take any risk provided you ask for the full package (+ box and papers, even better if serviced). The Rolex forum, WUS and Chrono24 are your friends :)

If you are open to other suggestions tell us :)
 
Hey timepieceGAF. So I'm looking into getting a watch. I never owned one and this will be my first watch. My budget would probably be around 200-300$. As far as aesthetic goes, I'm a very minimalist person when it comes to accessories and I would like to wear the watch both casually and on formal occasions. Can you guys help me out?
 
Hey fellow timepiece aficionados.

Can I get your opinion(s) on this Omega vintage seamaster with a linen face
http://www.chrono24.com/en/omega/vi...id2461057.htm?id=2461057&picnum=0&tab=details

Does it look legit? Fake? Too expensive, reasonable?

Hello Captive,

Welcome to the thread, and before anything, fantastic idea to go with a vintage Omega from the period when the brand shined the most. That said:

- At first sight it looks legit, but any watch afficionado will tell you it's nearly impossible to confirm a legit/fake watch without a picture of the movement.
- The watch is actually EXTREMELY small, less than 35mm dial. Personally I love small watches, but that's also because I happen to be quite small with very thin wrists. I would suggest to try on a watch with a similar size (if you can find one...) in a shop on the giftee wrist before ordering anything.
- My main issue with this watch is the state of the dial: I mean, it's a Seamaster 30 vintage, probably from before the 70s, and the dial and hour markers look spotless. I would verify with the seller if those were replaced and when.
- The case looks pêrfect, but this could be explained by a recent polishing
- The strap is not original for sure
- The price is quite expensive, Omega Seamaster 30 vintage are hovering between $500 and $1500, so here you are already at the top of the acceptable range. Please notice this price depends on what's genuine, and the specific model (here the linen-like dial increase the price).
- This specific watch model is a bit of a strange choice from a historic standpoint. the Seamaster is a dive watch, hence with a more sporty design, often a SS bracelet, and a bezel. Here you have a Seamaster - those model are 100m resistant, so definitely ok to swim with - but with a very 'dressy' look. I would say that the most sought after Seamaster Vintage are the 300, which looks much more sporty:

B0002834.jpg


- Finally, if you are European, or better if you know someone in Belgium, ask them to swing by the store to see the piece first hand...

So, if you really believe this is the right watch, I would advise on contacting the seller, ask for more pictures (close ups on the dial details for instance), ask for PRECISE pictures of the movement (I did it already multiple times on Chrono24, and they all accepted, if he refuses, go away :D), ask for the box, and original papers, Ask for the specific year it was produced (if he does not have the box and papers, he can still find the year with the reference on the movement/case back), and what parts were replaced since then, ask what they mean by 'ETAT: NOUVEAU' which means 'STATE: NEW' in French, and sounds strange for a vintage, ask why they say the bracelet is SS when the pics clearly show a strap.

If you have convincing answers on everything, then consider the next step, negotiation of the price (it's a vintage, don't pay full price). If not look somewhere else. I'll be happy to help.

Hey timepieceGAF. So I'm looking into getting a watch. I never owned one and this will be my first watch. My budget would probably be around 200-300$. As far as aesthetic goes, I'm a very minimalist person when it comes to accessories and I would like to wear the watch both casually and on formal occasions. Can you guys help me out?

I am not a specialist of this price range, but if you want something versatile to be dressed up or down, I think a nice Orient on a SS bracelet could do the trick, let me humbly suggest this model (I chose it for its simplicity given your brief):

sev0s003b_1.png


You can order it here within your price range.

There are others possibilities in this range, but we would need a bit more info to proceed (size? Bracelet or strap? Dressy versatile or Sporty Versatile? etc...).
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Hello Captive,

Welcome to the thread, and before anything, fantastic idea to go with a vintage Omega from the period when the brand shined the most. That said:

- At first sight it looks legit, but any watch afficionado will tell you it's nearly impossible to confirm a legit/fake watch without a picture of the movement.
- The watch is actually EXTREMELY small, less than 35mm dial. Personally I love small watches, but that's also because I happen to be quite small with very thin wrists. I would suggest to try on a watch with a similar size (if you can find one...) in a shop on the giftee wrist before ordering anything.
- My main issue with this watch is the state of the dial: I mean, it's a Seamaster 30 vintage, probably from before the 70s, and the dial and hour markers look spotless. I would verify with the seller if those were replaced and when.
- The case looks pêrfect, but this could be explained by a recent polishing
- The strap is not original for sure
- The price is quite expensive, Omega Seamaster 30 vintage are hovering between $500 and $1500, so here you are already at the top of the acceptable range. Please notice this price depends on what's genuine, and the specific model (here the linen-like dial increase the price).
- This specific watch model is a bit of a strange choice from a historic standpoint. the Seamaster is a dive watch, hence with a more sporty design, often a SS bracelet, and a bezel. Here you have a Seamaster - those model are 100m resistant, so definitely ok to swim with - but with a very 'dressy' look. I would say that the most sought after Seamaster Vintage are the 300, which looks much more sporty:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x70/skelding62/B0002834.jpg[IMG]

- Finally, if you are European, or better if you know someone in Belgium, ask them to swing by the store to see the piece first hand...

So, if you really believe this is the right watch, I would advise on contacting the seller, ask for more pictures (close ups on the dial details for instance), ask for PRECISE pictures of the movement (I did it already multiple times on Chrono24, and they all accepted, if he refuses, go away :D), ask for the box, and original papers, Ask for the specific year it was produced (if he does not have the box and papers, he can still find the year with the reference on the movement/case back), and what parts were replaced since then, ask what they mean by 'ETAT: NOUVEAU' which means 'STATE: NEW' in French, and sounds strange for a vintage, ask why they say the bracelet is SS when the pics clearly show a strap.

If you have convincing answers on everything, then consider the next step, negotiation of the price (it's a vintage, don't pay full price). If not look somewhere else. I'll be happy to help.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the welcome, but this is definitely not my first trip into the thread. :)

Thanks for all the questions to ask them, definitely good advice.

As for the size, I have a watch with a 42mm dial and I feel like its too big, also i would like a little smaller profile. I believe my wrists are right around 7" but i need to do an exact measurement. Every watch I've ever had i end up taking out at least 2 links if not more.

Its funny you post what the actual seamaster dive watches look like, i actually really don't like that look.

Also, its not "the watch" i don't believe there is a "the watch" for me. I just really like the look of it. I want several between a few Hamilton's, a Nomos Orion and a couple more styles of Omega's. The only difference for me now is last year when I posted in this thread I was making significantly less than I am now. Now spending more on watches isn't so unreasonable for me.

[quote="MistakenMobius, post: 75407343"]I know the shop, i go there regularly for seeing what's in, i bought a few nato watchstrap there and i think i'll got the for the revision of the vintage watches i own.

AFAIK it's a legit business
You can also find the watch directly on their website:

[URL="http://www.vintagetoday.be/montres/omega-vintage-seamaster-30-rare-linen-dial-art1303"]Same item as the one you listed[/URL][/QUOTE]

cool, good to know thanks!
 
Thanks for the welcome, but this is definitely not my first trip into the thread. :)

Thanks for all the questions to ask them, definitely good advice.

As for the size, I have a watch with a 42mm dial and I feel like its too big, also i would like a little smaller profile. I believe my wrists are right around 7" but i need to do an exact measurement. Every watch I've ever had i end up taking out at least 2 links if not more.

Its funny you post what the actual seamaster dive watches look like, i actually really don't like that look.

Also, its not "the watch" i don't believe there is a "the watch" for me. I just really like the look of it. I want several between a few Hamilton's, a Nomos Orion and a couple more styles of Omega's. The only difference for me now is last year when I posted in this thread I was making significantly less than I am now. Now spending more on watches isn't so unreasonable for me.

cool, good to know thanks!

There is a world between 35 and 42mm, try a 35 if you can.
If you don't like divers but prefer simple dressy watches, I would personally advise to have a look at JLC, which is a far more exciting option than a Seamaster in my mind. Still, have fun and tell us what you chose at the end.
 

Blu10

Member
Popped into the jeweler I always buy my girlfriend jewelry from and he had a vintage Rolex (1968) oyster datejust for 2,200 dollars. The band felt flimsy to me, and he said when he got it, it had no glass and he had to redo the face. Looks basically a 9 out of 10 currently. Think it's worth it?
 
Popped into the jeweler I always buy my girlfriend jewelry from and he had a vintage Rolex (1968) oyster datejust for 2,200 dollars. The band felt flimsy to me, and he said when he got it, it had no glass and he had to redo the face. Looks basically a 9 out of 10 currently. Think it's worth it?

Well, if the dial and crystal were replaced it clearly brings the price down, but you need to know if the bracelet and hands are original, and also check the movement (same question), ask for papers/box if any + the latest service proof, and ask for deviation in sec / day after the service (it should be really low).
If you have a look at all the watch elements precisely, everything should look like this. (here everuything is original except the bracelet).

By the way, I imagine it's a polished SS model, if it's 'two tones', run away, it's tacky :)

A polished SS datejust from 1968 in very good shape starts at around $2.5-3k according to Chrono24 so if everything was original it would definitely be a good price, (given it's the starting price and you can still negotiate 10% I imagine).

That said, if there is one brand above all when it comes to durability and sturdiness it's Rolex, clearly the best brand for vintage, so that's also to be taken into account. Keep us posted :)
 
I currently own the JG6500 and absolutely adore the design. It was this design in itself that got me to purchase my first proper wristwatch. Can anyone recommend a watch that is similar in the face? (Bonus points for similar strip)

5726954098_75b6e3d92a.jpg
 

Blu10

Member
I currently own the JG6500 and absolutely adore the design. It was this design in itself that got me to purchase my first proper wristwatch. Can anyone recommend a watch that is similar in the face? (Bonus points for similar strip)

5726954098_75b6e3d92a.jpg

Probably not the best person to suggest watches to someone else as I just started getting into them this year, but this Hamilton is pretty similar in the face (http://m.jomashop.com/hamilton-khaki-mens-h64666135.html), and they have many more pilot chronographs much cheaper with the leather band if that is what you are looking for. Sinn also has some very nice pilot watches, although they are much more expensive and the timers are at 6, 9, and 12 instead of 3, 6, and 9.
 
I currently own the JG6500 and absolutely adore the design. It was this design in itself that got me to purchase my first proper wristwatch. Can anyone recommend a watch that is similar in the face? (Bonus points for similar strip)

So you have one watch that you like, and the next should look the same with bonus points if it looks EXACTLY the same?

You are not a very adventurous person are you? :)

A budget would help, but if anything is possible, then an IWC Pilot Chronograph is the way to go, as JG clearly stole everything from this watch.

IWC-Big-Pilot-Top-Gun-Watch-Chronograph-1.jpg
 
Probably not the best person to suggest watches to someone else as I just started getting into them this year, but this Hamilton is pretty similar in the face (http://m.jomashop.com/hamilton-khaki-mens-h64666135.html), and they have many more pilot chronographs much cheaper with the leather band if that is what you are looking for. Sinn also has some very nice pilot watches, although they are much more expensive and the timers are at 6, 9, and 12 instead of 3, 6, and 9.

So you have one watch that you like, and the next should look the same with bonus points if it looks EXACTLY the same?

You are not a very adventurous person are you? :)

A budget would help, but if anything is possible, then an IWC Pilot Chronograph is the way to go, as JG clearly stole everything from this watch.

IWC-Big-Pilot-Top-Gun-Watch-Chronograph-1.jpg

I should have been more specific - I apologise. The watch face is currently too big for my thin wrists. It is uncomfortable to wear it as the backplate rubs against my ulna bone (the one that protrudes from the wrist). So I'm looking to sell my Jorg Gray and purchase something similar assuming it is slightly smaller

My budget would be £150
 

pwack

Member
I should have been more specific - I apologise. The watch face is currently too big for my thin wrists. It is uncomfortable to wear it as the backplate rubs against my ulna bone (the one that protrudes from the wrist). So I'm looking to sell my Jorg Gray and purchase something similar assuming it is slightly smaller

My budget would be £150

Your Jorg Gray is not very big as far as watches go these days - 41mm. It it iritates your ulna, many others will too, unless they have a curved case back. Your best bet is to go try on some Seikos, then purchase from amazon. For chronographs under £150, you'll need to keep with quartz.

Two other options if you like the watch you already have, one of which is free: 1) wear your watch looser. Or 2) buy a new strap that is more flexible; a nato or zulu might fit the bill, like the below, and should cost £10 or so:

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My wife got this for me for my bday. Probably the dressiest watch I've owned.

It's a nice dress watch indeed, from a notorious and historically relevant brand, congratulation! (for having a fantastic wife, and also for the watch :p).

If I may, there is a rule online for any wristwatch that is not considered 'affordable': do not show the case number, nor the serial (or only show the first 2 digits).

Most probably it will not have any impact, but someone could claim to have lost their watch using your serial, and EBEL could refuse to service it in the future, or some replica watch maker could use your serial as a base to create fakes... Uncool :)

So, I would gently advise to blur the serial and case number (or at least part of it) and re-upload the pic. Again, don't freak out, luckily for you it's not a PAM nor a Rolex (and we are on neoGAF, not watchuseek :p) so very low chance of it happening, but you never know :)

Enjoy your classic 100, and wear it in good health my friend!
 
My girlfriend got me an orient star seeker for my birthday.
I could not be happier. This watch is gorgeous. Hope this pic doesn't come out huge like my last one.

wrist shot.

It's a wonderful auto and sits nicely on your wrist, congrats!

Thinking of putting a deployment clasp on my Ebel. Anyone have any suggestions?(Preferably under $100.)

Changing the original strap into something else can definitely be fun and improve/change the look of the watch.
Though, when it comes to bracelet, buckle and clasp, I would stick to the same brand as the dial just for consistency. I've seen that EBEL does have some model with a clasp, if your wife has any way to contact the dealer and see if he can find one you directly from there that's your best solution - but likely to cost a more than a $100.

If you really want a custom one fast, I imagine any local jeweler should be able to help you sourcing one with the exact right size for your strap.
 
Thinking of putting a deployment clasp on my Ebel. Anyone have any suggestions?(Preferably under $100.)
Just to be sure: we are speaking about adding a deployment clasp to a leather strap not buy a full oyster bracelet?

One solution is to buy a deployment clasp+ Leather bracelet at the correct lugs width like this
2110050174band_233_03.jpg

(Steinhart aftermarket band)
 

Scalibur

Member
It's a wonderful auto and sits nicely on your wrist, congrats!



Changing the original strap into something else can definitely be fun and improve/change the look of the watch.
Though, when it comes to bracelet, buckle and clasp, I would stick to the same brand as the dial just for consistency. I've seen that EBEL does have some model with a clasp, if your wife has any way to contact the dealer and see if he can find one you directly from there that's your best solution - but likely to cost a more than a $100.

If you really want a custom one fast, I imagine any local jeweler should be able to help you sourcing one with the exact right size for your strap.

Thanks! I'll look into that.
 
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