NeoGAF will always respect women/racial minorities/lgbt

I once got a month-long ban from a mod (Ghaleon, no idea if he's still here) who was a buddy of bobbyroberts, strictly because he was being a condescending ass keeping with his modus operandi, and I called him out on it. I was banned for being "needlessly condescending. I can't post the thread because OT is gone, something Star Wars film related though. But yeah. I'll play my tiny violin for that guy.

Strange how I never caught a ban for participating in the MCU.

It's strange how you brought up Star Wars. I do believe those that got bans there were due to perpetuating the myth Rey was a mary sue.
 
Strange how I never caught a ban for participating in the MCU.

It's strange how you brought up Star Wars. I do believe those that got bans there were due to perpetuating the myth Rey was a mary sue.

This is kinda what people are talking about. That's an opinion based topic that honestly shouldn't have a strict yes or no answer, so saying someone should be banned for perpetuating it as a myth is quite literally banning someone for having a dissenting opinion.
 
This is kinda what people are talking about. That's an opinion based topic that honestly shouldn't have a strict yes or no answer, so saying someone should be banned for perpetuating it as a myth is quite literally banning someone for having a dissenting opinion.

It's not really about having a dissenting opinion. It just got to a point where mods - and the whole community really - got tired of the same ol' bullshit about Rey. She's as competent and skilled as Luke and Anakin, but that's not OK because... reasons.

(you know what the reasons are)
 
It's not really about having a dissenting opinion. It just got to a point where mods - and the whole community really - got tired of the same ol' bullshit about Rey. She's as competent and skilled as Luke and Anakin, but that's not OK because... reasons.

(you know what the reasons are)

I've heard people break down why they think she is significantly more skilled than either person you mentioned, which again is a dissenting opinion. You are again dismissing someone's opinion and argument before ever hearing it, and further making character judgements on them.

This is literally the issue people bring up and the fact you keep dismissing their concerns as irrelevant while proving them right baffles me,
 
You’re the dude who came into Letters GAF and threw a fit because there were lesbians present. Bye.
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

Lol shut this goofy bitch down

You have the right to shove that opinion up your asshole. Maybe the potential stimulation of your prostate will release some endorphins that make you less of a twat.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.
Not on gaf dude, take that small minded pseudo intellectual provocateur nonsense to 4chan neogaf is not a government entity dude.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

This is your nuGAF. This is what is going to be left over.

"Don't shut down my hate speech"
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

The hell? You have no right to decide which communities people belong to. That's for everyone to decide for themselves.
 
Not on gaf dude, take that small minded pseudo intellectual provocateur nonsense to 4chan neogaf is not a government entity dude.
Well what the fuck GAF is now? I'll gladly enjoy the new forum but I'm fucking tired of the PC hivemind bullshit.
 
lol amazing

NuGaf is great isn't it? Everyone feels so free!
You could be a dear and point these people out the remaining mods so they can put them on notice. Their kind of hatefiller thinking had never been publicaly acceptable on gaf but if you want to roll over and die in the face of this why are you still here?

A lot of these people have always been here they just held their tongues. All they're doing now is making it easy to prune them.
 
Well what the fuck GAF is now? I'll gladly enjoy the new forum but I'm fucking tired of the PC hivemind bullshit.

If you're saying people shouldn't be able to call you out on your bigoted fact-free bullshit, you're the one arguing for a PC hivemind.
 
This is kinda what people are talking about. That's an opinion based topic that honestly shouldn't have a strict yes or no answer, so saying someone should be banned for perpetuating it as a myth is quite literally banning someone for having a dissenting opinion.

Lololol. Those threads were full of people articulating why she isn't a Mary Sue and with evidence from the movies.

Y'all never cared.

You never cared to read the arguments for.

Y'all just hated Rey cause she was a woman. Not Luke. Not Anakin. They understood what you meant.
 
Evilore never made GAF... GAF. excelsiorlef, bobbyroberts, slayven, royalan, devolution, fucking blamespace, girl-gaf, BCT, the mods that propped up diversity and shut out toxicity, lgbt-gaf, all the OT makers, the gif makers, drunk-gaf, etc. They're gone. Those pillars have disappeared. You now how people are excited they can speak more freely (code for I want to be rude to people openly), calling out SJW, blaming progressives for making the place toxic (cause, ya know, treating people with respect was toxic). I like to gamble. The casino brings me great joy and anguish. I wouldn't bet on those communities coming back with the fervor they once had cause the passionate ones have left.

I'm pretty nervous that the heart of GAF will be lost as people flee the forum. But its a waiting game to see who and how many we actually lose.
I'm staying positive and trying to think that as they bring back the OT community threads slowly but surely, and as things settle down gaf will return to its former self. Very slowly at first but eventually. Not all the OT, gif makin' drunk gaffers are gone. Gaf mostly has a good culture. And we're still a mostly progressive space. We may lose some fantastic and prominent posters,(and they will be missed) but here's hoping that what they brought to the forum can be replenished by other posters over time.
Progressives didn't make the environment toxic. Its what made this forum great. But toxic people with progressive views made parts of the forum hard to deal with. Here's hoping that a new passionate group of posters can set the new tone of the forum once the bulk of the most aggressive are gone.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.
It's nice to see that facade finally drop. You're straight up a homophobe who's trying to complain about people being too PC. Curious, where do you get your facts from?
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

The new GAF.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

The irony about people who want to end political correctness, is that the moment you don't hold back and give them your full, unfiltered opinion of them, you get called out for creating a "toxic" atmosphere and told by people who don't like political correctness that you need to be more considerate.

Why can't we just just tell it like it is?

Why are you trying to moderate our unfiltered opinions?
 
If you're saying people shouldn't be able to call you out on your bigoted fact-free bullshit, you're the one arguing for a PC hivemind.
I felt that a gay-only thread would be more appropriate for gay people as a "safe space". People were upset that I was telling that gays and lesbians were not as much of a community as they think. People were pretty much offended and were thinking I was breaking up the LGBT community.

Such a stupid shitshow.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.
This right here is the kind of putrid shit that everyone complaining about "PC SJW's" on this forum really wants to be able to say. This is what's really toxic. How about you take this opinion and share it at your place of employment and see where it gets you.
 
Yes and people were offended that I said that gays and lesbians are different and don't form a natural community. I have the right to my opinion based on facts and not having PC bullshit spit on me. This is what people are taking about the too-PC culture. Stop shutting me down.

And I have a right on my opinion that you are a huge piece of shit.
 
I thought gaf repected minorities and LGBT? I'm bisexual and Muslim and middle eastern and you're mocking me while the "bigot" hasn't said anything disrespectful to me.
You're reading too deep into that, but i'll bite. Milo is gay. That disclaimer means less than you think it does in trying to support a bigot.
 
Nah. It's used as a derogatory term for anyone who cares passionately about equality
Maybe for those who abuse the term. But properly, it's used to call out those who aren't genuine. Those who are overly aggressive with it for personal gain or to curry favor with the in-crowd, etc. Or even those who might only be outspoken on the internet with their e-friends, but probably never stood for anything in real life. Like how fake tough guys online are keyboard warriors.

Having said that, I don't use the term. It's tainted to the point that anyone who does is assumed to be right wing.
 
I felt that a gay-only thread would be more appropriate for gay people as a "safe space". People were upset that I was telling that gays and lesbians were not as much of a community as they think. People were pretty much offended and were thinking I was breaking up the LGBT community.

Such a stupid shitshow.

You'd never spout this nonsense outside of online forums and with close friends, family members, which in itself should tell you to keep the fucking opinion to yourself.
 
So now the anti PC person wanted a safe space for gays only....lmao


People really don't see the irony in whining about PCness and then complaining when their opinions get criticized.
 
I thought gaf repected minorities and LGBT? I'm bisexual and Muslim and middle eastern and you're mocking me while the "bigot" hasn't said anything disrespectful to me.

In a world where the alt-right's most notable provocateur is an openly gay man, why should I give two shits about whether Phil's smoking hot "the gays don't create natural communities" take offends you?

Also, if you aren't aware that you're not going to be able to just drop "he's bi/she's bi/I'm bi" flippantly into a GAF post without a follow-up shitpost, you haven't been paying attention.
 
I've heard people break down why they think she is significantly more skilled than either person you mentioned, which again is a dissenting opinion. You are again dismissing someone's opinion and argument before ever hearing it, and further making character judgements on them.

This is literally the issue people bring up and the fact you keep dismissing their concerns as irrelevant while proving them right baffles me,

We've heard the arguments and its pretty obvious who had a genuine take on Rey and who was just stirring the pot. The people stirring the pot would almost always get banned surprise surprise.
 
You're reading too deep into that, but i'll bite. Milo is gay. That disclaimer means less than you think it does in trying to support a bigot.
But LGBTs are a minoritiy and we should always listen to them. Also racial minorities and muslims need to be heard so I think my opinion should be heard and I say don't ban this person.
 
I felt that a gay-only thread would be more appropriate for gay people as a "safe space". People were upset that I was telling that gays and lesbians were not as much of a community as they think. People were pretty much offended and were thinking I was breaking up the LGBT community.

Such a stupid shitshow.
not everything is bad i this shitty guy was banned
 
And I have a right on my opinion that you are a huge piece of shit.

This is toxic.Not based on his one comment he's not. Thats so absurd. His opinion isn't even that crazy. And everyone dogpiling him is part of the problem. Ask him why, or don't. Discuss it or don't. But you all dragged him about an opinion that could be pretty nuanced, and while you disagree with him, doesn't mean he's a piece of shit homophobe. Jesus

You can disagree with someone without judging their entire being based on a single post.
 
In a world where the alt-right's most notable provocateur is an openly gay man, why should I give two shits about whether Phil's smoking hot "the gays don't create natural communities" take offends you?

Also, if you aren't aware that you're not going to be able to just drop "he's bi/she's bi/I'm bi" flippantly into a GAF post without a follow-up shitpost, you haven't been paying attention.
How about someone who is a Muslim and middle eastern then. Milo is white and Jewish he's not the same as me.
 
Yeah, browsing Twitter trying to figure out wtf was going on with GAF this past weekend was a big eye-opener in that regard. Just a bunch of chuds who already had their own places to congregate celebrating that a place they had no interest in frequenting filled with the sorts of people that they openly don't want to associate with was shutting down.

If GamerGate venues like KotakuinAction etc were to shut down today, NeoGAF peeps would cheer for it.

The thing with places like those is that you see what you get. You know from the get go that they're dicks, depending on your worldview. On NeoGAF where the purity of correct line of thinking was so well preserved and reinforced, of course you cheer on hypocrites getting what they deserve, just like it is the case with almost all of these "nice guy" sexual creeps everywhere.

Anyway, these sorts of fractures will be the norm for communities like NeoGAF going forward, just like for all liberal societies that try to suffocate "bigotry" (not making moral claims here, mind you).
 
This is toxic.Not based on his one comment he's not. Thats so absurd. His opinion isn't even that crazy. And everyone dogpiling him is part of the problem. Ask him why, or don't. Discuss it or don't. But you all dragged him about an opinion that could be pretty nuanced, and while you disagree with him, doesn't mean he's a piece of shit homophobe. Jesus

You can disagree with someone without judging their entire being based on a single post.
Agreed. Also seeing he wasn't banned yet I think it's safe to assume he won't be.
 
Lololol. Those threads were full of people articulating why she isn't a Mary Sue and with evidence from the movies.

Y'all never cared.

You never cared to read the arguments for.

Y'all just hated Rey cause she was a woman. Not Luke. Not Anakin. They understood what you meant.

You totally ignored I mentioned an argument that literally illustrates how one might hold that opinion in good faith. Also, an argument where neither side can convince the other isn't uncommon, people who don't think your arguments are compelling are not inherently bigoted for it. This is an opinion, it doesn't have a right or wrong answer. You can honestly make the case for all three protagonists.

This is again the point, the inability to deal with dissenting opinions is fairly blatant.
 
It's a term reserved for the extremists IMO. As with everything there are always those on the extreme end of the scale. It's a term for the social justice equivalents of religious zealots. A better acronym would probably be SJZ "social justice zealot".

Not how it's used.

Mods on neogaf were social justice Zealots?

See. Not how it's used.

It's used by people who get annoyed when called out on bigoted views

Maybe GAF will talk about games instead of SJW shit now.

See? Lol.

Games never stopped being discussed. Sorry it wasn't a safe space for bigotry and or privilege
 
Agreed. Also seeing he wasn't banned yet I think it's safe to assume he won't be.

nope hes gone. But the people who resorted to insults, shitposts, and buzzwords are still out and about. This is what we need to clean up.
People need to start calming down. Not every person who disagrees with you is an alt right gator in disguise.
 
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