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Hoo-doo

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I just got this whitenoise app: http://www.tmsoft.com/iphone-whitenoise.html

I guess people use it to sleep, I've been using it to study and it is sublime! I got the free version, which only comes with a handful of sounds, but you can make mixes and other customizations to them. The only odd thing is that by default, the iPod control option is turned off, and even when you turn it on, closing the app stops the sound. You can then double click the home button and play from the iTunes control when you swipe to it. I assume this is just a minor glitch they have at the moment.

Thanks for the suggestion! I often study/read/sleep best when there's some ambient noise in the background. I used to put on RainyMood.com for these things. So goddamn relaxing.
 
This Readability and Instapaper argument is more useless than the Retina debate on the new iPad. Both are good programs, but I prefer Readability because its web and app interfaces are better and the developers have polished their content-scrubbing engine to be the near-equal of Instapaper.

Marco used to take a moral stance against saving multi-page articles until Readability became popular enough with their engine to make him change his mind. Both these tools steal ad clicks from the original publisher and earns revenue from that practice. Big whoop. I still have these and Read It Later, which continues to lag behind, and rotate among them.

Now that I type that out, perhaps I should focus on one. It's kinda stupid to manage three separate lists of articles I really don't want to read now, but later.
 

Recon

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This Readability and Instapaper argument is more useless than the Retina debate on the new iPad. Both are good programs, but I prefer Readability because its web and app interfaces are better and the developers have polished their content-scrubbing engine to be the near-equal of Instapaper.

Marco used to take a moral stance against saving multi-page articles until Readability became popular enough with their engine to make him change his mind. Both these tools steal ad clicks from the original publisher and earns revenue from that practice. Big whoop. I still have these and Read It Later, which continues to lag behind, and rotate among them.

Now that I type that out, perhaps I should focus on one. It's kinda stupid to manage three separate lists of articles I really don't want to read now, but later.

This is quite hilarious coming from you, but I agree.
 

Gaaraz

Member
There a great 'List' app out there for the iPad? I frequently find myself cataloging things in lists and it'd be awesome to have something straightforward with color coding or columns and font choices, organization/sorting options, etc.

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...mZzaDQ&usg=AFQjCNFnlWpjOSh--4Cx1y_PZJv8nvqkAQ

List Master sounds cool. I'm cheap. Anything similar for less?
I don't think you can go wrong with Wunderlist - http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/wunderlist/id406644151?mt=8

Both the iPad and iPhone apps are free, and it syncs perfectly with the web version which is also amazing. http://www.6wunderkinder.com/wunderlist/

If you want something a bit more powerful, with better collaborative features, check out their new product Wunderkit: http://get.wunderkit.com/
 

nicoga3000

Saint Nic
Still in the market for a good photo sharing app that works between PC and my iPhone. Instagram is cool and all, but I can't browse the pictures unless I'm on an iDevice. Also, not Facebook.
 

giga

Member
What's wrong with RIL? What about other Android apps like Spool?


I posted it in this thread because it we had already a few discussions about it here e.g.:

I don't if the conflict between the instapaper fanbase and readability fanbase would create enough interest to sustain a new thread (and it does feel like airing a small segment of iOS users' dirty laundry in public)... perhaps if you broaden the topic to include the effect on publishers as a whole? The news that NYT is blocking Instapaper/Readability deserves its own thread imo... well you're welcome to try either way. If you create a new thread, I'll post there too.

Oi,
That discussion isn't related at all about today's situation concerning publishers and apps like readability. Some people might have some conflict between the two apps, but I certainly don't and still use them both because I like both.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Still in the market for a good photo sharing app that works between PC and my iPhone. Instagram is cool and all, but I can't browse the pictures unless I'm on an iDevice. Also, not Facebook.
Photo Stream?! How about Scotty or Instaview? (Mac only) How about webstagram or Instagrille?

That discussion isn't related at all about today's situation concerning publishers and apps like readability. Some people might have some conflict between the two apps, but I certainly don't and still use them both because I like both.

Well yeah it precede's today's situation by several weeks but it's still related to the actions of various people based on their personal feelings of the creators of readability and instapaper...
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
Still in the market for a good photo sharing app that works between PC and my iPhone. Instagram is cool and all, but I can't browse the pictures unless I'm on an iDevice. Also, not Facebook.

Try Instagrid.me for viewing Instagram pictures (instagrid.me/username). :)
 

Zeth

Member
Is anyone using Air Display with the new hiDPI update for desktop mirroring on retina iPad? Thinking about buying it to try it out, I know I'll never use it though :\
 

Talon

Member
We had a decent conversation going on in the iPad thread about Instapaper and Readability in terms of UX compared to the web.

Speaking of NYTimes blockage, The Verge reviews come out all fucked up on Instapaper. First paragraph is repeated about 20 times. I @ replied Josh Topolsky and Marco Arment this morning - no response of course. I'm going to assume this is an error rather than anything intentional by Vox Media.
 

giga

Member
Photo Stream?! How about Scotty or Instaview? (Mac only) How about webstagram or Instagrille?



Well yeah it precede's today's situation by several weeks but it's still related to the actions of various people based on their personal feelings of the creators of readability and instapaper...
Did Marco comment about the situation? I don't think it even concerns him or Instapaper, unlike the tweets from the past. I personally don't really have any feelings about Readability's business model. I did not like their practice of not sharing the original link to an article though.
 

Zeth

Member
This is probably blasphemy to the instapaper/readability people, but I really enjoy reading The Verge now that they're on Flipboard. The formatting of the pictures gets messed up on reviews but it's tolerable. I guess the site itself would be pretty good on the new iPad too.
 

Talon

Member
This is probably blasphemy to the instapaper/readability people, but I really enjoy reading The Verge now that they're on Flipboard. The formatting of the pictures gets messed up on reviews but it's tolerable. I guess the site itself would be pretty good on the new iPad too.
No, this isn't blasphemy at all. The Verge has a very thoughtfully laid out website. It's a pleasure to actually read their longer articles with that persistent toolbar that scrolls with you.

The truth of the matter is AT&T 3G coverage is dreadful in downtown Chicago, so I need to save articles to Instapaper in the morning before I leave the apartment. Otherwise I have nothing to read on the commute.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
Did Marco comment about the situation? I don't think it even concerns him or Instapaper, unlike the tweets from the past. I personally don't really have any feelings about Readability's business model. I did not like their practice of not sharing the original link to an article though.

Um, are we on the same page? Here's my timeline of Marco's involvement since the new Readabililty app was released:

Anil Dash said:
When Readability first came out for iOS, a lot of people targeted their enthusiasm for the app as criticisms of the dominant player, Instapaper. Marco understandably shared a bit of his hurt at this development on his Twitter account, stoking the expected sympathy but also stoking a bit of rage as people sought to show their loyalty to Marco by "fighting back" at Readability. Marco had used the word "copycat" in a tweet, and that was the early criticism, that Readability was too similar in concept to Instapaper and that this was a dishonest enterprise.
Then when Marco copied Readability by adding fonts to Instapaper
This guy is just pushing me to delete Readability…

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And then this is from yesterday when Marco didn't bother reading the whole post by Anil because he used the word 'fanboy'

Readability fixed their wrong headed approach to the sharing links after it was brought up. The attacks on their business model make no sense to me. I don't see how Readability is in acting in any way more entitled by their rivals by distributing money back to publishers even if their method for doing so is one that many people don't think is perfect. I see Gruber has backpedalled (or 'clarified') his view a bit today. The web moves on.
 

giga

Member
Um, are we on the same page? Here's my timeline of Marco's involvement since the new Readabililty app was released:


Then when Marco copied Readability by adding fonts to Instapaper


And then this is from yesterday when Marco didn't bother reading the whole post by Anil because he used the word 'fanboy'


Readability fixed their wrong headed approach to the sharing links after it was brought up. The attacks on their business model make no sense to me. I don't see how Readability is in acting in any way more entitled by their rivals by distributing money back to publishers even if their method for doing so is one that many people don't think is perfect. I see Gruber has backpedalled (or 'clarified') his view a bit today. The web moves on.
That's why I said "tweets from the past". I'm not talking about the past. I'm talking about the current situation concerning Readability's link sharing and business model.

And I believe that Marco did read past "foolish fanboy enthusiasm". He just stated it was harder after it came up.
 

Talon

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So...Instapaper already had at least 5 fonts prior to the addition from what I recall. Maybe it was 4. Marco's blog post when he added more fonts: here. I feel like it's silly to think of something like adding more fonts as stealing. I think it's childish for a company to gloat about that, as well.

Gruber annoys me, for the record, but I think his pointed criticism against Readability is this.

Like I said in the iPad thread, I think Readability as a business model is interesting, and it could ironically lead to a swing back to, well, paper formats when it comes to read on the web.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
So...Instapaper already had at least 5 fonts prior to the addition from what I recall. Maybe it was 4. Marco's blog post when he added more fonts: here. I feel like it's silly to think of something like adding more fonts as stealing. I think it's childish for a company to gloat about that, as well.

I didn't say it was stealing. I said copying**. Marco says he had the idea for custom fonts before Readability but it was only until the competition arrived that he decided to copy them by adding and highlighting custom fonts as a feature of the app. I don't see anything wrong with that.
**Good artists copy, great artists steal ;)

Gruber annoys me, for the record, but I think his pointed criticism against Readability is this.
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Like I said in the iPad thread, I think Readability as a business model is interesting, and it could ironically lead to a swing back to, well, paper formats when it comes to read on the web.
Publishers keep running from one failing solution to the next. I have no idea on what model they'll settling on for pushing their products. Paywalls might become popular before the year is out.
 

Talon

Member
I posted the link that Gruber posted. I do read Daring Fireball - only around the launch of a new device for scoops and such. I stop reading when baseball season starts because he's an obnoxious Yankees fanboy.

Give me some credit, Greyface!

Marco's blog post was that the reason he didn't put as many fonts in initially is that - early days of iOS development, there were some typekit issues and potential licensing costs put him off. Sounds believable.
 

Blackhead

Redarse
I posted the link that Gruber posted.

Give me some credit, Greyface!

Marco's blog post was that the reason he didn't put as many fonts in initially is that - early days of iOS development, there were some typekit issues and potential licensing costs put him off. Sounds believable.

ok, fixed. let's get back to talking about good apps.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Is anyone using Air Display with the new hiDPI update for desktop mirroring on retina iPad? Thinking about buying it to try it out, I know I'll never use it though :\

Anyone?
 

Talon

Member
Publishers keep running from one failing solution to the next. I have no idea on what model they'll settling on for pushing their products. Paywalls might become popular before the year is out.
The biggest barrier to entry on paywalls is that there's not a unified payment structure. As scary as it sounds, if Apple or Amazon figured out away to use their accounts as a payment method on the web, they would be far more effective.
 

Blackhead

Redarse

I am; what do you want to know? The cursor is weirdly blurry and everything gets a little fuzzy/stretched while moving windows. When it's stationary it's quite sharp. There is a problem with the air display keyboard on the iPad kkeeyybbooaarrdd lliikkee ssoo. Lag isn't bad, quite useable actually (on a MBA with fans a'blazing). The problem is that the HiDPI mode makes everything so small on the iPad's screen that you have to pull it up pretty close to the face to read properly. You'll need to get one of those adjustable stands or do everything on the iPad.
Also couldn't get fullscreen apps on the iPad's screen but that's Apple's fault :/
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I am; what do you want to know? The cursor is weirdly blurry and everything gets a little fuzzy/stretched while moving windows. When it's stationary it's quite sharp. There is a problem with the air display keyboard on the iPad kkeeyybbooaarrdd lliikkee ssoo. Lag isn't bad, quite useable actually (on a MBA with fans a'blazing). The problem is that the HiDPI mode makes everything so small on the iPad's screen that you have to pull it up pretty close to the face to read properly. You'll need to get one of those adjustable stands or do everything on the iPad.
Also couldn't get fullscreen apps on the iPad's screen but that's Apple's fault :/

Thanks for this. So it still sounds like a meh experience. I'll pass for now.
 

Teddman

Member
Smash! the comic book reader... Just a waste of time and money as it crashes very often. Going back to CloudReader for now, don't need wizbang features or a nice UI, I just want to read the shit I copied in.
Must be an iPad 3 thing? Smash has been rock solid for me on the iPad 2, never crashed. I'm so hooked on the auto-zoom feature that I find myself using it more than ComicGlass.

But there was an App Store review that said Smash doesn't work well with the retina display and loads comics slowly on iPad 3. They need an update to fix that and also to remove the status bar during reading mode.
 

Tr4nce

Member
I didn't know where to put this, so I thought I'd just put it here:

Today, WaveAlarm is free. It's a very nice alarm clock app, because it has the possibility to put your alarm clock to 'Snooze' by waving over your iPhone! It makes use of the front camera for this. It has some nice alarm clock 'ringtones' as well, and the graphics are cool as well. The only downside is that the app has to be open all the time, when you go to bed.

Otherwise, really neat!
 

Ambitious

Member
Should receive my iPad about Wednesday next week, hopefully.
What's the best Wiki app for the iPad? Wikipanion Plus on the iPhone is just great, how about the iPad version?
 

LCfiner

Member
The new "Wonders of the universe" book/ app is really well done. Very simple ui to read - just keep scrolling up and pictures and videos can take up full screen if you pause the scrolling - and there's a good search feature next to the table of contents.

The actual content has been pretty good. I've been re watching Cosmos and Brian Cox covers similar beats and has a good balance of not dumbing things down too much but keeping everything understandable by not bringing out equations or too much jargon.

And, yeah, it looks pretty as hell on the retina screen. I recommend it if you're curious about space sciences, cosmology and physics.
 
just looking through paper apps; pens. They $1,99 each. And theres 4 to buy. somehow; the complete pacakage at the ned = $8.45. Um, why is it $0.50 more? Not quite getting it. I gotta say; I think the apps pretty good.contemplating buying all pens. That said; got to find my stylus which has gone MIA first.
 
is paper's tweet integration not working? I can't get the seem to click the send icon. How are we meant to get anything out of the app? via email?

I just sent it via email but it dont seem to have retained full resolution from ipad3.

twitter definitely dont work - is it something you have to pay for? Rigth to tweet?
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
RE: Readability/Instapaper. I don't use either, but I think anyone trying to discuss a "moral highground" is crazy. I think the time-shifting use of this software is significantly less important than the presentation use. And less important all the time, especially given always-online platforms.

The presentation use of both of these pieces of software (and Safari Reader and ReadItLater and...) is that the design and advertising crimes that pollute content are so bad that it is moral to extract the content and read it as you wish. If a site facilitates reading, sharing, and a clean visual design, it will be less likely to have its content "stolen" because readers will not see a problem that needs solving. If I want to extract the content for my own use, I would want my friends to see the cleaned up content as well. I don't think there are many people who use Ad Blockers and would not recommend them to their friends; by definition if you think it's a problem that needs solving, it's a problem that needs solving for others. Now you can debate whether or not the original premise that the ads are so bad that they merit this response is justified, but you can't debate that it's justified by the standards of the people who use it. That's definitional.

You can mitigate the losses through revenue sequesteration stuff like what Readbility does, but it's all a post-hoc thing. The software's raison d'être is to undermine the status quo; trying to rationalize a world where it's okay for users to undermine the economic model, but bad if their friends do is really weird. I can't understand it.

Any more opinions on this please? More than happy to update the OP if necessary.

Thanks

I've never used Video Stream but Air Video is great and I've used it for a long time. I was also surprised to see something else recommended in the OP. But again I've never used Video Stream so I have no input on the direct comparison
 
re: readabiltiy/instapaper debate. I like read it later; but btw the 2; ultimately if the end user benefits; I don't really care. And they're not the smae.

its not like both aren't working off parallels; instead of say; oh that zygna tower clone which is abhorrent
 
I've never used Video Stream but Air Video is great and I've used it for a long time. I was also surprised to see something else recommended in the OP. But again I've never used Video Stream so I have no input on the direct comparison
OP, I recommend calling this one a draw at least. In my 3 years of using Air Video, it has been as flawless as can be expected. It's available on the local network or remotely (even over 3G) by way of a simple 9-digit pin number, has a ton of quality and streaming options, can convert films to an iOS format with one click, subtitle support, simple navigation, video out, and has never failed me. It's live conversions are perfectly crisp and clear over local wifi, all you can do is smile at the realization that you really don't have to store videos on the iPad at all ( unless you are away from wifi).

It has been my first paid app recommendation for literally years. Video Stream may be similar or equal in quality, but it's hard for me to imagine it as a superior to Air Video.
 

giga

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You can even scroll down to past read tweets and that syncs back too. Not just "new" unread tweets. Amazing.
 
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