Thanks for the input. Personally I'm gonna get that AV Fami eventually, but my friend said he had an extra adapter I could try, since I have a few Famicom carts lying around (I actually picked them up at a flea market, how strange is that, this is Finland we're talking about), just to try it out.
NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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Thanks for the input. Personally I'm gonna get that AV Fami eventually, but my friend said he had an extra adapter I could try, since I have a few Famicom carts lying around (I actually picked them up at a flea market, how strange is that, this is Finland we're talking about), just to try it out.
"Daddy, where did I come from?"
"Well son, we wanted to play some Famicom games in HD, and we couldn't. So..."
sixteen-bit
Member
"Is that why you called me 'Nester'?"
RadarScope1
Member
Yeah, just wait for auctions. Like 80% of the NES games eBay are BINs, which is annoying -- and no small reason why prices are inflated.
BluePigGanon
Member
I am intrigued and definitely considering it, but waiting for impressions from credible (and non-dogmatic) sorts like you. Can't wait to hear what you think.
baphomet
Member
Honestly, when you can get an RGB Modded toploader and a Framemeister for basically the same price as the Analogue, then that will always be the better decision. With that you can only play NES games. With the Framemeister you can upscale basically all of your consoles to the same crystal clear quality.
sixteen-bit
Member
Congrats!
Yeah, a Framemeister is a long term investment and not just a singular thing. I started with one only thinking I wanted to do Saturn games... And here I am two years later as a serious PC Engine collector.
An Analogue NT only limits you. You never know what doors a Framemeister can open.
Thanks, I'll try to get the video up next week.
dcx4610
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Curious to see how you handle the 2nd form. Even with save states, I've found no discernible pattern. The fire follows you and it seems you have to get lucky.
I can make it to the last area without dying but that's where it gets rough.
1.Stand next to far right pillar as you wait for him to shoot fireballs.
2. Move left to dodge fireballs and go to the middle pillar.
3. Jump on middle pillar and wait for him to come to you.
4. Jump at your highest peak and slash him as he goes towards you(or you jump towards him as he moves away from you) but be sure to fall down quickly or else the boss will touch you.
5. Rinse and repeat.
My video will have that tactic.
D.Lo
Member
99.99%. Laser Invasion is the only one I've ever seen have issues.
Installed my Blinking Light Win today. Couple of notes.
- Some carts are easier to take out than others. It can have a deathgrip on certain games, but not all of them
- Make sure to clean your board before hooking the BLW up. Mine didn't work right until I did
- Otherwise it's been gravy so far. Everything works wonderfully
Are they generally cheaper than an NES top loader?
D.Lo
Member
Likely more expensive, given the NES Top Loader is an RF only nightmare machine.
Famicom is definitely the way to go for an all-on-one box. It's easy to make a Fami play NES games correctly, but an NES needs all kinds of mods to play all Fami games correctly, most obviously expansion audio games and Famicom Disk System.
Seven Force
Banned
I've heard Castlevania III US has some issues, too. But anyone with an AV Famicom would likely get the Japanese version, anyway.
I planned on getting the console modded so it would output in RGB. I assume the AV Famicom would be the cheapest to mod.
D.Lo
Member
Both Jackal and CV3 work fine on mine. USA CV3 has its charm.
Weirdly my Bayou Billy doesn't work on my AV Fami, but it's not a game that should have issues. Might just be the odd individual cart incompatibility (Meaning just this copy has some weird quirk with my converter). Otherwise, apart from Laser Invasion, I can guarantee 100% Konami USA game compatibility on AV Fami, as I have the complete set.
PAL games have standard PAL to NTSC issues too of course.
I got to Stage 5 in Ninja Gaiden 3 today for the 1st time... and then got a game over...this fucking game...why are there so many enemies on screen...why is the hit detection so awful and the worst in the series...why do a lot of enemies do 3 damage per hit...why do you get sent back to the beginning when you use a continue... and most of all, why are the continues limited to begin with...I wanna know why.
Guys, seriously, anyone who says Ninja Gaiden 3 is the easiest in the NES series is lying or trolling, I can beat the 1st game without dying, I will 1CC the 2nd in the future(like lose a few lives but use no continues), but this one might force me to use a continue unless I get every extra life I can find. I will beat this game later on, but damn is it relentless.
Guys, seriously, anyone who says Ninja Gaiden 3 is the easiest in the NES series is lying or trolling, I can beat the 1st game without dying, I will 1CC the 2nd in the future(like lose a few lives but use no continues), but this one might force me to use a continue unless I get every extra life I can find. I will beat this game later on, but damn is it relentless.
I haven't played the US version of 3, but I always hear it's way harder than the Japanese version. I'd say the Japanese version of 3 is the easiest of them.
It's in a different league man:
Stronger enemies(2-3 damage enemies are common, no enemy does 1 damage, lol)
Limited continues(5, lol)
No passwords
Restart whole stage on continue
Typically only one checkpoint per stage
More enemies on screen(like around 7-8)
Persistent time limit on last stage making it virtually impossible to not die on it unless you want to have 10-20 seconds left on the clock
Re-fight the 3 final bosses all over again if you die on them on your last life(that is messed up)
It's like they did everything in their power to make it one of the hardest games out there.
blast processed
Member
IIRC this game was designed like that as a big fuck you, to people that rented games back then. This was their way of fighting back against it.
Seven Force
Banned
Yeah, I actually just checked, and US CVIII working on AV Famis are entirely dependent on the converter you're using. My bad.
JP 3 is the easiest.
US 3 is the hardest.
So weird how a few tweaks change the whole situation.
Double post sorry.
What do you guys think of this?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1845713947/the-retroclarity-component-ypbpr-video-adaptor
What do you guys think of this?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1845713947/the-retroclarity-component-ypbpr-video-adaptor
Shadow Hog
Member
Sounds like it's an attempt at a cheaper product to fill the niche the XRGB line already does.
RadarScope1
Member
Looked good until the fugly 16:9 stretching at the end!
The XRGB line converts from an analog RGB signal to digital HDMI.
This thing is an RGB to YPbPr (component) converter.
That's a little different. Some people prefer to convert to component so that they can play in 480p on a CRT and minimize lag. But if you want to play on an HDTV, not every HDTV supports 240p over component, and even if it does, a Framemeister is going to give you a better results once it comes time to upscale to your TV's native resolution.
RGB to Component transcoders are already pretty much a thing. So this thing isn't too special. I mean, it looks like you can plug up to three consoles into this thing, so It's like a component converter and an input switcher all-in-one? Not really much to get excited over.
Yep. You already have means of converting RGB to Component. All this box is doing is using proprietary RGB cables instead of standard Scart.
D.Lo
Member
A truly worthless product when this is fifty bucks and works with almost every console out of the box with a standard scart cable:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004XSSDPO/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And they want $100 for one with cables?
RadarScope1
Member
Thanks for this link - I have a question about this. Sorry if it's a bit OT...
I recently hooked up my PS2 to my 2008 Panny Plasma TV via component. I can play PS1 games with this setup and they look great! No major lag that I can sense, either. It's my understanding that this means my TV accepts 240p sources via component.
My questions is, given the above, would I be able to simply use a SCART cable out of my SNES (or a Ver 1 Genesis) and then use this device to convert it into component and get a pretty good IQ? I've hooked up my SNES to this TV via s-video before and it's a surprising decent experience, though just not quite up to snuff for my taste. I know this wouldn't be as good as a Framemeister but it's also much cheaper...
Battlesmurf
Member
I put the hacked version of 3 on my original 3 cart. I don't miss US 3 lol. Great game, but the Japanese version while a bit easier is a lot more fun.
riskVSreward
Member
Since we're talking about Framemeister, can anyone tell me how much or how little it affects the N64 on HDTV because I just hooked mine up and good god its hideous. I thought PS1 looked bad on HD, N64 looks like a vaseline nightmare!
D.Lo
Member
Simple answer, yes.
Long answer - ask in this thread.
N64 looks pretty good on Framemesiter if RGB modified, though it still looks much better on a PVM. IQ varies greatly between games however.
As above, see that thread for more info.
RadarScope1
Member
There are a few different types it seems, any that should be avoided?
RadarScope1
Member
I don't have personal experience with any (though I have done some looking because I think I might want to go this route in the future.) I looks like the basic black ones that are most common are OK, based on user feedback for sellers that sell lots of them. Also, I'm pretty sure that's the same type I saw Try4rce mention in one of the My Life in Gaming vids, and he said everything he's thrown at it except CV3 and Jackal worked perfectly.
As far as original adapters from back in the day, the Honey Bee is supposed to be great. It's also like $100. Par for the course in NES collecting....
As far as original adapters from back in the day, the Honey Bee is supposed to be great. It's also like $100. Par for the course in NES collecting....
Here's my Bucky o Hare playthrough.
While I'm at it, here's also my no death Ninja Gaiden run.I do all NES, SNES, GEN and fighters in 60 fps as well, because lol 30 fps.
I still can't believe I did so good in 6-2, I mean, I only got hit once in that section.
sixteen-bit
Member
Disassemble them then use an eraser to rub the contacts.
dcx4610
Member
Awesome job. Your play style looks similar to mine. I just couldn't figure out that 2nd form pattern. Looks like the real key is to stay patent and that's hard to do.