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New AMD CPU’s integrated graphics reportedly more powerful than PS5
AMD reveals the existence of its Ryzen Halo Strix APU, which is rumored to have 16 Zen 5 CPU cores and a mighty gaming GPU with 2,560 stream processors.

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Why? I thought the things that hamper console equivalent GPUs were access to the hardware, so any equivalent hardware doesn't perform that much better than the consoles.
MLID is constantly doing this crap. He makes stuff up, saying AMD will deliver some amazing tech or performance.
Idiots get into the hype, then when reality sets in, they all get disappointed.
Rinse and repeat.
Why? I thought the things that hamper console equivalent GPUs were access to the hardware, so any equivalent hardware doesn't perform that much better than the consoles.
Why not? XSX GPU is, in theory, already more powerful than PS5 GPU.
Why not? XSX GPU is, in theory, already more powerful than PS5 GPU.
Because idiots listen like "went in one ear and out the other" and then saying like a true rumorIdiots get into the hype, then when reality sets in, they all get disappointed.
"an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X and a Radeon RX 7600 in one single chip."Huh? Is it CPU or APU? Title says CPU while preview says APU.
It's RTX 4070MaxQ performance. What's bullshit about that??
It's RTX 4070MaxQ performance. What's bullshit about that??
Interesting? I can understand bandwidth issues given the fact some of the cache maybe utilized by the CPU or GPU unless these APUs come equipped with stacked memory,but why wouldn't AMD want these lower APUs to replace relatively low-end dedicated GPUs?Do people need to explain the limitations in die space, cost, and especially memory bandwidth.
Besides, AMD can't let the APUs performance edge into their dedicated GPUs space.
Interesting? I can understand bandwidth issues given the fact some of the cache maybe utilized by the CPU or GPU unless these APUs come equipped with stacked memory,but why wouldn't AMD want these lower APUs to replace relatively low-end dedicated GPUs?
And runs 100000000000000000000000000000000x more programs.Andy it probably costs 4 times the amount as a PS5
AMD can charge 300$ for a 7600 and another 300$ for a 7700X. Why would they charge 300 alone, for an APU?
And remember that all of AMD APUs have to have the L3 cache cutdown to make room for more CUs.
So memory bandwidth is even more at a premium.
Your first clue is that this rumor was posted by Moore's Law is Dead.
But isn't at least some of what MLID said confirmed by Kepler's tweet?
IS there a reason why AMD doesnt release their APUs that run in a PS% or xbox to the mass market. Or something similar? I don't quite get why they dont.
Maybe because those APU's have custom stuff not licensed by Sony and MS to other machines.IS there a reason why AMD doesnt release their APUs that run in a PS% or xbox to the mass market. Or something similar? I don't quite get why they dont.
I mean, to outperform the current gen of consoles in the GPU area isnt to hard. It could be possible
They did but with disabled GPU, it perform worse than 3600 in CPU tasks:
Is not the XSX APU 56 CU?40 cu apu is really beefy
I'm talking about strix halo. The subject of the thread.Is not the XSX APU 56 CU?
Because a dedicated GPU simply becomes more viable once you reach those price segments. The lowest end of dedicated GPUs will match that overly expensive APU in need of ridiculous cooling and space.IS there a reason why AMD doesnt release their APUs that run in a PS% or xbox to the mass market. Or something similar? I don't quite get why they dont.
It's not horrible at all. We went from absolute joke of Jaguar cores to Zen 2 cores which perform so much better in every regard. Current-gen consoles seem despite this "outdated" CPU be primarily bottlenecked by GPU regardless. Consoles really don't need super beefy CPUs cores. That's more a PC thing and when you aim for higher than 60 frames per second. If consoles were choked by their CPUs, we would see more games running at native 4K rather than upscaled from 1080p using some muddy FSR solution that DF will surely gush over.Horrible.
To think that this CPU is supposed to somehow deliver "next gen" gaming experiences all the way into 2026 and maybe even beyond is, well, rather ridiculous.
Because a dedicated GPU simply becomes more viable once you reach those price segments. The lowest end of dedicated GPUs will match that overly expensive APU in need of ridiculous cooling and space.
It's not horrible at all. We went from absolute joke of Jaguar cores to Zen 2 cores which perform so much better in every regard. Current-gen consoles seem despite this "outdated" CPU be primarily bottlenecked by GPU regardless. Consoles really don't need super beefy CPUs cores. That's more a PC thing and when you aim for higher than 60 frames per second. If consoles were choked by their CPUs, we would see more games running at native 4K rather than upscaled from 1080p using some muddy FSR solution that DF will surely gush over.
I watch his videos regularly, I enjoy some of his guests but man dude struggles to hide his AMD boner.Your first clue is that this rumor was posted by Moore's Law is Dead.
What I mean is how is 40 cu beefy if the XSX has 56?I'm talking about strix halo. The subject of the thread.
Well Sony/MS can't really put in CPU cores that doesn't exist at the time. And I believe Mark Cerny talked about the CPU performance of PS5 once. He said he offered more CPU cores to devs but it would come at the cost of GPU. All the devs immediately said no, realizing GPU performance had to be prioritized. And the proof is in the pudding. You see how resolution targets are gradually lowered as this gen goes on. We went from 1440p baseline to 1080p and now some games even go below that. This is the biggest sign that developers are hitting GPU bottleneck first.Yes, it's absolutely horrible considering what we have for sale currently. It's like arguing that a GPU that's 4 generations behind is actually not bad because it's better than the generation that preceded it….
Because it's the only mass market apu from amd for PCs with 40 cus. The 780m is 12 cu for comparison. Laptops using this thing will be very performant with a relatively slim form factor.What I mean is how is 40 cu beefy if the XSX has 56?
Well Sony/MS can't really put in CPU cores that doesn't exist at the time. And I believe Mark Cerny talked about the CPU performance of PS5 once. He said he offered more CPU cores to devs but it would come at the cost of GPU. All the devs immediately said no, realizing GPU performance had to be prioritized. And the proof is in the pudding. You see how resolution targets are gradually lowered as this gen goes on. We went from 1440p baseline to 1080p and now some games even go below that. This is the biggest sign that developers are hitting GPU bottleneck first.
So with that in mind, current-gen consoles have been designed properly, prioritizing, at the time, cutting-edge GPU over cutting-edge CPU. Sony did the mistake of the latter with the PS3 and are not so keen on repeating it.
It's all about the Benjamin sadlyYes, consoles are stuck in the past from the moment they are born, which is why they can't be responsible for the lead development of cutting edge gaming experiences in general, at least not in the current outdated paradigm.
How can you really push forward development when you are massively limited on the hardware side? Zen2 CPUs in 2026? Sad state of affairs.
Cerny could've at least put a zen3 core inside the ps5..
For PCs only? What is forbidding anyone to use it on non PC machines?Because it's the only mass market apu from amd for PCs with 40 cus. The 780m is 12 cu for comparison. Laptops using this thing will be very performant with a relatively slim form factor.
Cerny could've at least put a zen3 core inside the ps5..
What is forbidding you from cutting a steak with a spoon? Sometimes things are designed with a specific use case in mind, but you can use it in other ways if you really want.For PCs only? What is forbidding anyone to use it on non PC machines?
Zen3 CPUs were released almost at the same time as the PS5.
And the Zen3 APUs were released a year later.
Zen3 wasn't ready in time for this generation of consoles. And even if it was, it would cost way more than a Zen2 CPU.
We have to remember that consoles are very limited by price. It's not like we can just put all the top end hardware in there.