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I tried king of tokyo. I wasnt terribly impressed.

It was fun, I think it's s great game, respectively for something quick and fun. But I would have liked a lititle but more depth. The flavor felt too detached from the mechanics.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
I tried king of tokyo. I wasnt terribly impressed.

It was fun, I think it's s great game, respectively for something quick and fun. But I would have liked a lititle but more depth. The flavor felt too detached from the mechanics.

Yeah haha maybe you had the wrong expectations. I definitely find that people going into KoT with any expectation that it's going to be a modern remotely elegant design usually come out disappointed (I mean it even has player elimination!). It's basically just a dice-chucking party game with fun little power ups and a social dynamic of when to gang up on people and when to lick your wounds. I just enjoy that push-and-pull but again I think my expectations of the game are different than most gamers. Also I just enjoy stupid dice-chucking games tremendously so it's right up my alley.

I like Eclipse quite a bit too but the vibe around Scythe does feel eerily similar just in the sense I feel like reading some of the early reviews and then some of the backlash, that the people going completely gaga over it (and there were many) won't even be playing it in a year's time because they'll have moved on to the next thing that has addressed the issues in Scythe (and probably created some new ones that will be discovered after the initial hype has died down :p). No hate on either game just an interesting ebb and flow to the vibe around it. It's really hard for a Euro/Trash hybrid-type game to stay on top for any significant period because the flavor and mechanics that Trash adds often lead to flaws in the game discovered over time, or at least things that can be significantly improved upon. That was certainly the case with Eclipse. A straight Euro that's much more abstract, even a heavy one, it's much easier to stand the test imo. Obv. this is completely a subjective matter of perception. :)
 
I do agree with the sense that Scythe has kinda died down in hype like Eclipse in part due to the hybrid nature of the game. I will say that I was slightly disappointed with Scythe, while Eclipse is still in my top 10 favorite games. There's just something missing for me with Scythe as it feels like an amalgamation of different games, but doesn't do any one thing extremely well. Maybe in the times I played it, it just never felt like your engine got to be very impressive. As an analogy, it's like Scythe starts you off at 20 mph and by the time you're done you've gotten up to 50. Where as other engine builders feel like you started at 10 and you get up to 80.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
The main difference between Scythe and Eclipse to me is that, in Eclipse, you can play yourself out of the game. Scythe is much, much more forgiving. If you play poorly in Eclipse there will come a point where you can't really do anything and that never happens in Scythe.
 

nick nacc

Banned
Looking to have some actual fun TOGETHER with my family these holidays. No cell phones nah mean! So what's the latest hotness with games lately? I bought a couple of things

-betrayal expansion
-CAH expansion
-codenames


What else should I get? Considering :

+sushi go party!
+sheriff of Nottingham
+ticket to ride (if so which one)
+dead of winter
+dixit

Whatever you think!
 

Fireblend

Banned
Looking to have some actual fun TOGETHER with my family these holidays. No cell phones nah mean! So what's the latest hotness with games lately? I bought a couple of things

-betrayal expansion
-CAH expansion
-codenames


What else should I get? Considering :

+sushi go party!
+sheriff of Nottingham
+ticket to ride (if so which one)
+dead of winter
+dixit
Sheriff is outstanding. Absolutely get that.
 

Neverfade

Member
I tried king of tokyo. I wasnt terribly impressed.

It was fun, I think it's s great game, respectively for something quick and fun. But I would have liked a lititle but more depth. The flavor felt too detached from the mechanics.

King of New York has an extra layer than I much prefer to KoT.
 
I picked up a couple Arkham Horror TCG core sets at my FLGS today. They actually threw in two investigator minis and an FFG tentacle bag for the chits. Totally not expected but totally welcome.
 
Looking to have some actual fun TOGETHER with my family these holidays. No cell phones nah mean! So what's the latest hotness with games lately? I bought a couple of things

-betrayal expansion
-CAH expansion
-codenames


What else should I get? Considering :

+sushi go party!
+sheriff of Nottingham
+ticket to ride (if so which one)
+dead of winter
+dixit

Whatever you think!

Sushi go party is amazing for a family. Even young kids can do ok by just collecting the same stuff. That said, I don't think "party" is essential. The base sushi go is just fine if it is cheaper.

Ticket to ride? Get the one that matches where you live, assuming us or europe. If anything Europe has more depth if you choose to play with things like stations, but I never do.

Some other light games to consider:
Fuse: furious dice chucking
One night ultimate werewolf: silly deduction
Camel Up: light hearted racing game
 

SCHUEY F1

Unconfirmed Member
I picked up a couple Arkham Horror TCG core sets at my FLGS today. They actually threw in two investigator minis and an FFG tentacle bag for the chits. Totally not expected but totally welcome.

Nice! I got no such freebies. I was going to get two core sets but decided to wait since I will likely be playing mostly aolo.
 

combine42

Neo Member
Looking to have some actual fun TOGETHER with my family these holidays. No cell phones nah mean! So what's the latest hotness with games lately? I bought a couple of things

-betrayal expansion
-CAH expansion
-codenames


What else should I get? Considering :

+sushi go party!
+sheriff of Nottingham
+ticket to ride (if so which one)
+dead of winter
+dixit

Whatever you think!

I've played codenames a ton and its always a blast. You can learn in minutes and play for hours

Dixit is awesome for all ages and really makes people be creative.

Dead of winter is much deeper and would turn off non gamers.

Sheriff is alright, played about 20 times. But i feel like you win just by telling the truth all the time.

TTR is a classic staple in any collection. Stick with the OG map with the 1912 expansion for the bigger cards and more routes. After playing with the expansion is impossible to go back.

Havent played sushi go, but I've heard great things
 

Noaloha

Member
Nice! I got no such freebies. I was going to get two core sets but decided to wait since I will likely be playing mostly aolo.
I'm hoping to get two cores for solo play as soon as I have the pennies for the extra (and assuming availability). For single investigator play you get to really specialise your deck with two-ofs (especially important for Agnes and Daisy) and in 2-handed solo games you're free to pick any pair of investigators rather than just ones which have no overlapping classes. Game's fantastic by the way.

Nothing wrong with a single core for getting started though and it's still perfectly enjoyable as a standalone game.
 

fenners

Member
Nothing wrong with a single core for getting started though and it's still perfectly enjoyable as a standalone game.

We played Arkham Horror The Card Game for the first time last night, and it was a bit of a mixed bag on our first play.

For background, I played with two guys who are big fans of Arkham Horror & the LOTR LCG (plus one of their wives). Too many for a first learning play, for sure, and we ended up getting a ton of things wrong & a ton of downtime. Not a fan of the rule layout & split guide books at all for this one.

It seems to borrow a ton from the LOTR LCG, way more than I expected. The 'scale' of the initial adventure lacked the 'scale' I'm used to with AH, being much more like Mansions of Madness, but I expect that to change with expansions/more stories, for sure. Not a big ding.

But the big problem we had with the initial story was how 'automated' it all was. There was rarely a choice of direction or conflict. Everything was always clear on what to do next. Hopefully that will change with fewer players & more cards.

Need to play with two instead of four.
 

Noaloha

Member
We played Arkham Horror The Card Game for the first time last night, and it was a bit of a mixed bag on our first play.

For background, I played with two guys who are big fans of Arkham Horror & the LOTR LCG (plus one of their wives). Too many for a first learning play, for sure, and we ended up getting a ton of things wrong & a ton of downtime. Not a fan of the rule layout & split guide books at all for this one.

It seems to borrow a ton from the LOTR LCG, way more than I expected. The 'scale' of the initial adventure lacked the 'scale' I'm used to with AH, being much more like Mansions of Madness, but I expect that to change with expansions/more stories, for sure. Not a big ding.

But the big problem we had with the initial story was how 'automated' it all was. There was rarely a choice of direction or conflict. Everything was always clear on what to do next. Hopefully that will change with fewer players & more cards.

Need to play with two instead of four.

That core campaign is short, yeah. Just three chapters. If you're wallet's down for it, the cycles (when complete) will tell stories spanning 8 chapters I believe.

I think you're talking about gameplay automation rather than a lack of narrative, choose-your-own-adventure divergency right? So you feel your strategising options are fairly non-existent? Cellar's empty so now I rush to the Attic, kind of thing? If so, my personal experience was that I felt similarly when I started playing, but as I became more familiar with the contents of the Encounter Deck and learned what to expect at the turn over of each Act and Agenda, my choices became much more considered. Playing around the possibility of a certain Encounter card appearing, taking advantage of how enemies'd disappear automatically at the flip of a certain Act, etc. For scenario 1 at least, I'm able to play through it at a much more methodical pace now with a control style of play, whereas at first my strategy was fast, fast, fast, draw as few Encounter cards as possible please.
 

fenners

Member
I think you're talking about gameplay automation rather than a lack of narrative, choose-your-own-adventure divergency right? So you feel your strategising options are fairly non-existent? Cellar's empty so now I rush to the Attic, kind of thing?

Bit of both, actually.

Mind, this is commentary from one play of the initial story, so it could totally change once we play more.

But yes, it was always clear where to go for the story, and it was always clear what the next tactical play was. There was rarely any "Oh shit, what should we do next??"; it was always crystal clear what each player was doing 99% of the time.

Again, intro story, so I expect that to change.

[Added]
Oh & one minor annoyance - they changed the height of the box. It's not the same height as LOTR LCG etc, it's half the height, so cards can't be stored on their side in three rows like before.
 
Going to start a new job with decent pay. Excited to have money for the big sales this year. Though a number of things I want probably won't be on sale and/or are in small quantities. :(
 
Wow, who is your FLGS? Let us know what you think.
A place called Millennium Games just outside of Rochester NY. We are lucky that we have three great boardgame stores near by. Millennium just happens to be the bigger one and closest to my house.

As for the game, I'll probably end up learning to play it this weekend and bust it out on our usual Monday night game night.
 
Any opinions on Pyramid Arcade? Friend picked it up and I want to, too, and the idea of supporting a nice hippie couple (meant in the most adoring, well meaning, way) sounds too good to pass up as well.
 
Maybe I should wait on Arkham Horror LCG. Doesn't look like it might be restocked soon. Might as well wait for the first cycle the finish and wait on impressions.
 

Karkador

Banned
Any opinions on Pyramid Arcade? Friend picked it up and I want to, too, and the idea of supporting a nice hippie couple (meant in the most adoring, well meaning, way) sounds too good to pass up as well.

I think they're doing a separate set for Zendo, if I recall correctly. I don't know how the other games are, but Zendo is great.
 

Blizzard

Banned
It's weird to me how some games like Scythe or Feast For Odin can seem too heavy for people to play, yet I don't think I hear that complaint levied against Eclipse much? Eclipse seems both punishing if you get behind, and crazy long, 4-5 hours. I won, had a cool story to tell, and still felt kind of like I lost, it was so exhausting.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
It's weird to me how some games like Scythe or Feast For Odin can seem too heavy for people to play, yet I don't think I hear that complaint levied against Eclipse much? Eclipse seems both punishing if you get behind, and crazy long, 4-5 hours. I won, had a cool story to tell, and still felt kind of like I lost, it was so exhausting.

With 4p, I can usually bang out Eclipse in 3h pretty easily. 5+ it can get pretty long though. Do people say that about Scythe and Odin? Maybe part of it is the frame of reference. People compare Eclipse (maybe improperly) to games like TI3, and it plays in half the time or less. Whereas I think Scythe and Odin would get compared to meaty but shorter eurogames in many cases. I like Eclipse at 3h or less, but wouldn't want to play it longer.
 

Blizzard

Banned
With 4p, I can usually bang out Eclipse in 3h pretty easily. 5+ it can get pretty long though. Do people say that about Scythe and Odin? Maybe part of it is the frame of reference. People compare Eclipse (maybe improperly) to games like TI3, and it plays in half the time or less. Whereas I think Scythe and Odin would get compared to meaty but shorter eurogames in many cases. I like Eclipse at 3h or less, but wouldn't want to play it longer.
Maybe they're not common opinions. My girlfriend hates the amount of setup Scythe involves, and I think a couple of people here were taken aback by Odin's table space. Eclipse filled something crazy like a 4x8 foot table for us. :p

I personally prefer 2 hours max for a game.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Maybe they're not common opinions. My girlfriend hates the amount of setup Scythe involves, and I think a couple of people here were taken aback by Odin's table space. Eclipse filled something crazy like a 4x8 foot table for us. :p

I personally prefer 2 hours max for a game.

I'm with you -- that's 95% of my gaming. Only regular exception I make is for Eldritch, and maybe Eclipse once or twice a year.
 

KJ869

Member
Any opinions on Pyramid Arcade? Friend picked it up and I want to, too, and the idea of supporting a nice hippie couple (meant in the most adoring, well meaning, way) sounds too good to pass up as well.

If you like intresting abstract games, theyre nice. I have been playing some of them for 10 years now as I bought the old treehouse sets (Its suprisingly that theyre the same people behind Fluxx, the only game I hate, and I still love theyre pyramid games) I took part kickstarter the moment it was launched and Im waiting eagerly to get my set. You can look boardgamegeek and other places for old games with the pieces and concider how you feel about them. The old pieces were good quality so I expect the new ones to be nice as well (if not as damn sharp to impale you anymore)

Definetly going after the Zendo one when it ships. Problem with zendo has always been the high piece recuirement, so new set just for it is perfect idead even if that one probaly will end up being expensive.
 

Taborcarn

Member
A place called Millennium Games just outside of Rochester NY. We are lucky that we have three great boardgame stores near by. Millennium just happens to be the bigger one and closest to my house.

As for the game, I'll probably end up learning to play it this weekend and bust it out on our usual Monday night game night.

I went to RIT from '99 to '03, I loved Millennium Games. I didn't play hobby board games then but they were great for Magic, D&D, and Warhammer 40k.
 
I tried king of tokyo. I wasnt terribly impressed.

It was fun, I think it's s great game, respectively for something quick and fun. But I would have liked a lititle but more depth. The flavor felt too detached from the mechanics.

Ya know, I actually really didn't care for this game the first 2 or 3 times we played it.

Then, something clicked, and I had to go buy a copy.

I agree that the theme doesn't fit the mechanics entirely. You could have made the theme anything really.. I tend to like my games thematic too..

But something clicked, and I'm not really sure what it was, but I enjoy the game a lot more now. I think one thing I like is that going exclusively for points, and playing a pacifist monster, is possible.. Also, the evolution cards can make the game feel different every time.

I have the new edition with new art, so I'm waiting on the release of the 'new' edition on the power up expansion.

Haven't tried New York yet.
 
The local flea market thread on BGG had a fully KSed copy of The Others for about 2/3 of the CSI cost, so I bought it to add to my enormous stack of 1v4 Descent-alikes. Sometimes you look at yourself in the mirror and say, "That guy, right there, is not very smart."

Anyway, I've put the invite out for it and Inis tonight, so it should be a wonderful evening of tiny, plastic people. Possibly Marco Polo or Orleans if the crowd demands the cubes hit the table. Those are pretty much the Euros I've adopted at this point. Has anyone played the Orleans expansion? The thought of cooping the bag builder has me giddy.
 

SumGamer

Member
The local flea market thread on BGG had a fully KSed copy of The Others for about 2/3 of the CSI cost, so I bought it to add to my enormous stack of 1v4 Descent-alikes. Sometimes you look at yourself in the mirror and say, "That guy, right there, is not very smart."

Anyway, I've put the invite out for it and Inis tonight, so it should be a wonderful evening of tiny, plastic people. Possibly Marco Polo or Orleans if the crowd demands the cubes hit the table. Those are pretty much the Euros I've adopted at this point. Has anyone played the Orleans expansion? The thought of cooping the bag builder has me giddy.

I have the expansion. It's a bit more confusing honestly in term of the differences. Each expansion sort of modify some rules for the game. It offer more variety than expands the base game if you ask me. There're like two modules that expand the game out of 8 scenarios. With that said, I actually likes it. The co-op options are great for me and my wife playing together. It just that we have to always make sure what rule are we playing in that session. Also changing the scenario after each game makes our heads hurt.
 

Experien

Member
Pre-ordered my first game from FLGS (normally I do this online).

Apparently they only got one copy of the game and had multiple pre-orders. Who knows when I will get it. Meanwhile it is available online. I am torn from wanting to support FLGS and actually being able to get said product.

Anyone have the same experiences?
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
Pre-ordered my first game from FLGS (normally I do this online).

Apparently they only got one copy of the game and had multiple pre-orders. Who knows when I will get it. Meanwhile it is available online. I am torn from wanting to support FLGS and actually being able to get said product.

Anyone have the same experiences?

That seems kind of shitty on their part. They should have known at least a month ahead of time how many they were getting.
 

Draxal

Member
That seems kind of shitty on their part. They should have known at least a month ahead of time how many they were getting.

I don't think that's true, FLGS can get fucked by distributors all the time. They underdeliver more than they should and don't communicate about it all.

Pre-ordered my first game from FLGS (normally I do this online).

Apparently they only got one copy of the game and had multiple pre-orders. Who knows when I will get it. Meanwhile it is available online. I am torn from wanting to support FLGS and actually being able to get said product.

Anyone have the same experiences?

The way the FLGS treats you during this experience will tell you how much the FLGS will deserve your business. If they go out of the way to get the product for you, .ie they might know an additional distributor etc.
 

Protome

Member
Apparently the cancellation of my Inis preorder wasn't an isolated incident. Lots of people complaining about cancelled preorders or delays (to January 2017.)

Seems like a massive fuck you to FLGS by the distributor unless some big accident happened and tons of copies got damaged/stolen.
 

-tetsuo-

Unlimited Capacity
I don't think that's true, FLGS can get fucked by distributors all the time. They underdeliver more than they should and don't communicate about it all.

In my years of running a game store this never happened once. My distributors always asked me how many i needed well in advance and I was held to that number. I am talking 6 months before shipping.
 

Protome

Member
In my years of running a game store this never happened once. My distributors always asked me how many i needed well in advance and I was held to that number. I am talking 6 months before shipping.

While it's uncommon, the recent issues with Inis in the UK show it still happens.
 
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