New Facebook homepage coming

Status
Not open for further replies.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Because they were never different things.

Based on the formatting, they certainly were. I preferred Status Updates appearing differently than everything else.
 
btkadams said:
either click on applications or go to your profile and click info.
where is "applications"?

right now in order to go to a hidden group page that i send a message out to every week, i have to click on my profile, click on info, scroll down to the groups page, click on show all groups, and then click on the group.

i really hope this applications option is better.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Because they were never different things.

Was it not before?
They most certainly were different things, maybe not in terms of what was stored on the backend, but visually they were presented as very different elements. Posts on your own wall were different than those others posted on your wall which were all much different than your status. Its all been rolled into one now.

As for the profile being a glorified filter prior to this update: in a way it was, but it seems much more pronounced now.
 
I should say that I do like the direction they're going in, but I don't understand the logic behind de-emphasizing updates you make to your own profile page (mainly status), that seems silly.
 
If they're really aiming towards everything being treated the same, then:

1) "Status Updates" should be one of the selectable filters on the main page
2) You should have the same filters available to you (in a quick selectable manner) on your profile page
 
I liked when you posted a photo before that it would make the first one in your group a nice 400 or so width.

Now it's just a tiny thumbnail like before.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Right, because they were never different things.

A status update appears at the very top of your profile. A comment on a link does not despite it appearing in the same location next to your pic on your wall.

They're not the same thing.
 
Zoe said:
A status update appears at the very top of your profile. A comment on a link does not despite it appearing in the same location next to your pic on your wall.

They're not the same thing.
Who was talking about Links comments? Comments on links haven't changed appearance or function.

Wall posts and status updates were always the same thing. Besides, what's all this rage about status updates going away anyway? Your latest post on your own Wall still appears up top next to your name or in friends lists in the same way it always did. It just isn't named Status Update anymore. Is that really getting to you that much? It not having a name?
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Who was talking about Links comments? Comments on links haven't changed appearance or function.

They have changed appearance.

facebook.jpg


Before the update, that line used to appear underneath the link summary.

I'm not saying it really bothers me, but there was and still is a distinction between status updates and everything else.
 
Zoe said:
They have changed appearance.

facebook.jpg


Before the update, that line used to appear underneath the link summary.

I'm not saying it really bothers me, but there was and still is a distinction between status updates and everything else.
Hierarchy is completely lost with this new update. FB needs to hire an information architect ASAP.
 
Alcander said:
Are you kidding? At its basic functionality it is now exactly like Twitter. Status posts, wall posts, wall comments, etc are now all merged into one element with no differentiation. Each person's profile is now the same as someones Twitter profile, where everything said by/about them is visible. Your profile is now essentially a glorified "filter".

The only difference is they replaced "@so and so" (in Twitter) with "sender > receiver". Cosmetically, yes its different and allows for much more than does Twitter. Functionally, however, it is nearly identical.

Twitter is more of an information subscription tool...a conversation stream. On twitter, a link between any two people doesn't imply an interaction between them.

You can follow anyone and be followed by anyone. It only shares text and links, your feed isn't populated with comments from others or comments between two or more people you are also in some form of network with. The whole of twitter is searchable and can be mashed up in ways totally impossible with facebook. It is used in ways that facebook isn't and cannot be precisely because of the fundamental difference in the way that they work. Twitter's strength and real use is not in "friends" posting about their feelings or the minutiae of their daily lives.

Facebook is about people you already know, used to know, have just gotten to know. About people saying "I'm bored at work", posting photos of their nights out, having their friends post photos of them, etc. It's more personal information, more mundane, more open to people you've added to your network revealing parts of your life to others in the network, more restricted and closed.

People who think the facebook redesign makes it like twitter just because "status" is gone in favour of a general comment box and all feed entries appear on one wall have not really understood the main function or differentiating strength of twitter. The two are quite separate. You can easily use facebook and twitter for completely different reasons and be connected to completely separate networks as a result. The power of twitter for professional use is also well beyond that of facebook's precisely because you can tap into any conversation streams and get involved in them, track information on numerous topics and from anyone who tweats, and actually forge new connections in a way that facebook is not set up to do because of the qualitative difference in their approach and their use.
 
pxleyes said:
Hierarchy is completely lost with this new update. FB needs to hire an information architect ASAP.
I think losing hierarchy has their gradual goal for years, but I do agree with your second point. I like the update, but things could still be so much better.
 
fyi, the new facebook seems to have reset my privacy settings

just heads up in case it happened to anyone else.
 
MrSardonic said:
Twitter is more of an information subscription tool...a conversation stream. On twitter, a link between any two people doesn't imply an interaction between them.

You can follow anyone and be followed by anyone. It only shares text and links, your feed isn't populated with comments from others or comments between two or more people you are also in some form of network with. The whole of twitter is searchable and can be mashed up in ways totally impossible with facebook. It is used in ways that facebook isn't and cannot be precisely because of the fundamental difference in the way that they work. Twitter's strength and real use is not in "friends" posting about their feelings or the minutiae of their daily lives.

Facebook is about people you already know, used to know, have just gotten to know. About people saying "I'm bored at work", posting photos of their nights out, having their friends post photos of them, etc. It's more personal information, more mundane, more open to people you've added to your network revealing parts of your life to others in the network, more restricted and closed.

People who think the facebook redesign makes it like twitter just because "status" is gone in favour of a general comment box and all feed entries appear on one wall have not really understood the main function or differentiating strength of twitter. The two are quite separate. You can easily use facebook and twitter for completely different reasons and be connected to completely separate networks as a result. The power of twitter for professional use is also well beyond that of facebook's precisely because you can tap into any conversation streams and get involved in them, track information on numerous topics and from anyone who tweats, and actually forge new connections in a way that facebook is not set up to do because of the qualitative difference in their approach and their use.

I wouldn't disagree that the two services serve two different ultimate purposes and are more suited towards different environments, but I still would argue that the direction facebook is going (or wants to go) is is quite similar to where Twitter is now. True that you can follow anyone in Twitter and not in facebook, but beyond that (and stripping away the photos, shared links, etc) its hard not to see how facebook is becoming much more twitter-esque.
 
It's weird how I don't see my own status updates on the home page anymore. I see everything else that's posted to my wall show up on there, but i have to go to my profile page to see my own status updates.
 
I like it, aside from the right side of the screen. I don't care how many of my retard friends are playing Gang Wars or joined so and so shit group. Give me an "ignore this group" or thumbs down option in each of those boxes, plz.
 
White Man said:
I like it, aside from the right side of the screen. I don't care how many of my retard friends are playing Gang Wars or joined so and so shit group. Give me an "ignore this group" or thumbs down option in each of those boxes, plz.
Agreed 100%. I can see how in theory this sounds like a good idea, but when implemented it makes the already cluttered home screen just scream 'content overload'. They really should implement an option to at least hide the app/group/highlight whatever sections here (although I understand the Ad placement).
 
Another thing I noticed... there is a limit to how many chars you can have in your status update "whats on your mind" post, yet it doesn't display your character count. Boo! Was there a limit before, or is this another copy of Twitter ;)
 
Jtwo said:
fyi, the new facebook seems to have reset my privacy settings

just heads up in case it happened to anyone else.

I noticed that as well. I can suddenly see the profile of someone who blocked me. I don't think she magically forgave me out of the blue.
 
Mike Works said:
where is "applications"?

right now in order to go to a hidden group page that i send a message out to every week, i have to click on my profile, click on info, scroll down to the groups page, click on show all groups, and then click on the group.

i really hope this applications option is better.
wb2yo6.png


just click on the applications option on the bottom bar. the one that you use to chat with people. it opens up a menu and groups is on there.

actually (im an idiot), you don't even have to click the application button. right next to it, groups should be a default bookmark.
 
Why were we not told that changes to the home page included changes to how the posts in our profiles are formatted?! I was very happy with the old system. VERY happy. And this has screwed it up. I like the setup, but the status updates and wall posts are simply not the same thing to me. Not everything has the same degree of importance or relevance. Status updates were always more for broad general feelings or major announcements (which I could bold for importance) and wall posts were very specific inane shit that no one cares about. But now it's all the same? Not sitting well with me at all, I LIKE structure to how my information is presented, thanks.
 
The old newsfeed had a preferences section with sliders that determined how frequently certain types of stories (photo albums, events, status updates, etc) appeared. Does this still exist or has it been replaced totally by looking at the "types" of stories one at a time? I liked being able to see different types all on the same feed but having certain ones appear way more often than others.
 
It's ok. I was looking forward to this update but there's a few no brainers that they really seemed to eff up. Please let me know if there's some hidden customization feature that I'm not seeing to fix these things:

-You can't see your own status from the main page, I don't always remember what my last status was and it's annoying to have to go back to your profile.

-Before this live feed nonesense... they already had a live feed that was much better than this. This is because you could actually tell the difference between the different types of updates (wall posts, links, notes, status updates). I mean, you CAN tell the difference but it's harder to see, before they punctuated each update with the icon representing what it was, not the icon is at the end of the update and it's harder to just scan the feed to look for a certain thing.

-The application feed is a good idea but why the fuck do I have feeds of apps that I'm not using? Peices of flair? Superpoke? Digsby? wtf is Digsby? Why would I want a feed of these? If I block that specific application it just replaces it with a more irrelavent one, how about the ones I actually friggen use.

-In the old live feed you could make custom groups of people to see feeds about, now you're limited to one of your two networks you're aloud to join, pages, or everything at once. This is retarded.

-Why are Groups excluded from the feed? Seriously the only real logical distinction FB has made between pages and groups is that Pages are 'official' representatives of whatever, therefore you can't invite people and have to use FB ads to advertise them. At least with pages added to the feed this solves a lot of exposure problems the Pages had. I'm starting to see more of a distinction with the new pages, but it's mostly superficial and doesn't serve much more of a point than to promote usage of FB ads.


I really hope they add more customization options here or I'm going to just delete a lot of friends till I have a more managable feed or something.
 
I like how I can remove updates from some people. There are some on my friends-list who just love spamming shit like online tests and useless articles.
 
NimbusD said:
-In the old live feed you could make custom groups of people to see feeds about, now you're limited to one of your two networks you're aloud to join, pages, or everything at once. This is retarded.
Go to Friends, click on "Make a new list", add friends you care about.
 
This update is way better than the old look, but why they fuck are they trying to be twitter and they're focusing so much on status updates, err, i mean thought updates?


Also,

"Share your thoughts"

And when you try to post on someone's wall it's "share" now.

What's with all the sharing?
 
koam said:
This update is way better than the old look, but why they fuck are they trying to be twitter and they're focusing so much on status updates, err, i mean thought updates?


Also,

"Share your thoughts"

And when you try to post on someone's wall it's "share" now.

What's with all the sharing?
It's unreal how people are getting thrown off just because Facebook changed words in certain parts.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
It's unreal how people are getting thrown off just because Facebook changed words in certain parts.
But FB was just fine before this latest change! The more they "update their look" the more it just seems like the programmers are bored on a Friday night. It's annoying.

And then we all have to adjust to whatever it is they create.
 
BladeWorker said:
But FB was just fine before this latest change!
No, it really wasn't. Every time I went, I just ended up clicking on the "Live Feed" link which was like the fifth link on the horizontal row. I ignored everything else. I know I'm not alone in this. It was stupidly complicated and overdone for something that just needed to be a way to quickly see what my friends are up to.

How can anyone defend the old News Feed that just picked random crap from people's profiles instead of showing everything? Or how it would republish old news from like two weeks ago all the time for no reason? They could've posted something epic and meaningful but you'd never see it unless you went to their actual profile, and I'm not doing that for every single friend.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
No, it really wasn't. Every time I went, I just ended up clicking on the "Live Feed" link which was like the fifth link on the horizontal row. I ignored everything else. I know I'm not alone in this. It was stupidly complicated and overdone for something that just needed to be a way to quickly see what my friends are up to.

How can anyone defend the old News Feed that just picked random crap from people's profiles instead of showing everything? Or how it would republish old news from like two weeks ago all the time for no reason? They could've posted something epic and meaningful but you'd never see it unless you went to their actual profile, and I'm not doing that for every single friend.

The "live" feed doesn't even exist anymore!

I liked the previous default view because it could group similar content, and (maybe I'm just imagining this) it seemed to have preference towards the people I interact with more. Now with the new view, anybody with enormous amounts of friends would end up having a lot of their friends' updates getting buried before they get a chance to see them.
 
Zoe said:
The "live" feed doesn't even exist anymore!
The home page is the Live Feed now, except it doesn't update in real time as you stay on the page which is no big loss.

Zoe said:
I liked the previous default view because it could group similar content, and (maybe I'm just imagining this) it seemed to have preference towards the people I interact with more. Now with the new view, anybody with enormous amounts of friends would end up having a lot of their friends' updates getting buried before they get a chance to see them.
Seriously, the filters are so awesome for this.
 
New layout + new pirate language feature..

I'm so lost.. but hey it's fun

(everyone go to settings > language > Pirate if you havent already)
 
Syth_Blade22 said:
New layout + new pirate language feature..

I'm so lost.. but hey it's fun

(everyone go to settings > language > Pirate if you havent already)
Well, this changes everything.
 
i like this new layout a lot actually...probably because it's trying to be twitter.

it won't replace twitter though, because i can't see what tinafey and THE_REAL_SHAQ have to say on fb
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom