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New Halo 5 Coverage! (expect spoilers)
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[Call-Me-G]
Banned
This... Truth and Regret why not... but Eden and Empire are quite the same at a different time of day.
You're forgeting the best Halo on X360 imo: Halo Reach.
There are 5 Halo games on X360 with Halo Wars.
SmartWaffles
Member
Plenty of trailers though, opening cinematic, blue team cinematic, tons of gameplay, they choose to release actual information that benefits to player choices instead of vertical slices.
Also pretty sure full gameplay on new maps is very big deal, we get to see complete picture of changes since beta/E3.
The flow of Eden and Empire are very very different.[Call-Me-G];179919772 said:
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
So, you guys are prefering remixes than original and brand new maps? Ok.
SmartWaffles
Member
[Call-Me-G];179920042 said:
We are not "prefering" anything, we are just simply stating that the "remixes" are different enough to warrant being standalone map entries.
[Call-Me-G];179919772 said:
Fair enough. how about we wait until we can see the rest of the remixed maps before we pass judgement on them.
Hopefully it's more Truth/regret than empire/eden.
That's not to say Eden and Empire played anything alike... Because they didn't ... The time of day is certainly not the only change made.
Poodlestrike
Banned
[Call-Me-G];179920042 said:
It's not "prefer," it's just "not totally discounting." The remixes, despite their names, play pretty damn differently. I'm okay with getting them, and consider them basically equal to a new map. I would not, for instance, trade all 7 remixes for a smaller number of original maps, which is the equation we're looking at here..
Nothing gets you more hype than the Halo trailer itself. Seriously. Opening cinematic is cool and all. But Halo Trailer and ViDoc is what gets most people going. They need to start pushing out TV ads amd trailers like now.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
I dont get the hate for the "remix" maps. They all played different to me. I dont remember Regret looking and playing like Truth.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think people hear the term "remix" and assume its a lazy cut and paste version of the same map with small variations, which is false. Not only that, but I guess they think that if none of these "remix" maps were made, we would be getting more original maps, which is also false.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
I don't hate them at all. I'm just saying that I'd rather have 14 totally brand new maps than 7 maps and 7 remixes. That's all. And I don't understand why all of you are not affected at all by this new "remix trend".
SmartWaffles
Member
[Call-Me-G];179921119 said:
It's your implication that a remix is something less than a map... Yes the remixes share visual queues... But a map is more than its aesthetics... It's the actual positioning of the geometry, the sight lines, the jumps, the choke points, the weapons placement etc, that act as a maps DNA...
these maps PLAY completely differently, you shouldn't be discrediting them simply because they share some assets...
Poodlestrike
Banned
[Call-Me-G];179921119 said:
Okay, see, here's the problem: your options are not "7/7 or 14." Your options are 7/7 or some undetermined number less than 14 and bigger than 7. A remix plays differently than the original, but takes less time and effort to make. Thus we get more of them. So long as it's not excessive and the remixes are good... I'll take the larger map pool, tyvm.
Fata1moose
Banned
There's Mark VI at the end, but no Mark V.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
So, if you have the choice between 14 excellent, well designed, totally different shaped maps or 7 excellent, well designed, totally different shaped maps, and their 7 remixes, you'll chose the second choice?
Good. I understand.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
[Call-Me-G];179922814 said:
I think you totally missed what he said.
Edit: ah, you quoted the wrong guy at first. Still I think Vin isn't saying he wouldn't prefer 14 unique maps, he's just saying the remixes don't bug him, probably for the reason poodle stated.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
I did not quote the good one
Why should I have a choice to make? Designing 14 completely different maps takes more time and effort, I'm okay with that. But I'm allowed to prefer having 14 completely different maps than 7 maps and 7 remixes (as good as they can be!). No? When, back in "I don't know when" they said "There will be 14 maps at launch", every one hoped that there will be 14 completely different maps. That's not the case.
Maybe, most of you don't care about that, but this is not my case. And now, we can go back to a normal discussion.
Poodlestrike
Banned
[Call-Me-G];179922814 said:
Uh...
No.
What I said was that if I have the pick between 7 excellent, well designed, totally different shaped maps and their 7 excellent, well designed remixes (current status quo until proven otherwise), and less than 14 excellent, well designed, totally differently shaped maps, I'll pick the former.
Because those are the options.
SmartWaffles
Member
Because making 14 completely unique maps take more time and resources than 7 maps + 7 different "remixes"? Games do not come out of vaccum, fellas.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I do wish there was a bit more old style in the maps. Bungie's maps always had pretty different architecture based on what was in the map for setting. Most of 343's are good maps, but they feature the same UNSC base building blocks and rounded corners in everything. Where's my giant wheel from Zanzibar, where's the big base from relic, etc.
It seemed with Bungie Halo each map had its own theme, and its own geometry. Some re-used parts here and there, but largely new items including some big iconic features on each map.
Looking forward to playing all the Halo 5 maps though.
It seemed with Bungie Halo each map had its own theme, and its own geometry. Some re-used parts here and there, but largely new items including some big iconic features on each map.
Looking forward to playing all the Halo 5 maps though.
[Call-Me-G]
Banned
Maybe in Warzone and BTB maps. I hope so.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
This is how I feel. Arena maps are looking pretty bland with a couple of exceptions. Bungie's maps always looked very different stylistically. Warzone seems to be a little more varied though.
Gravemind IV
Member
I really hope that we're getting some more unique maps for Arena, pretty much every map has been the inside of a factory or at least looks like one. Maybe they don't want to spoil environments borrowed from the campaign, but still.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I feel like they had a big function over form theme. They took all that criticisms for making maps like that one with the big robot in the middle sucking up all the sightlines, or just being too sparse, or just too dark like Abandon. Like they sat down and thought, "OK, pros REALLY like Midship, Lockout, and The Pit. How do we make every single Arena map into that?"
Right here
Right here
My sentiments too. Warzone maps look like a breathe of fresh air compared to the endless cycle of metal walls in Arena.
Fata1moose
Banned
The emblems are very disappointing too, all pre-baked that you can't customize (other than color) and they don't show up on armor. I've been rocking the red cross since Halo 2 and now it's gone. :/
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The Railgun replacing the plasma caster is a good change on Fathom. That's a good power weapon.
is Ninja there? I need to know
is Ninja there? I need to know
Fata1moose
Banned
They have the ninja in a cowboy hat and that's it.
Ol No Bones
Banned
What? They all play quite different and have similar yet individual aesthetic. We are also getting a shut ton of maps. This is a good thing.[Call-Me-G];179920042 said:
Savinowned
Member
Yes. We will make it in forge!
I think I'm in love:
With halo 5
With the Sonic casino style bumpers in that breakout match
With the rail gun
With the pistol
With this guys low budget video editing, accented one-liners and subtitles
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Maps look meh. Where's our cool, unique settings? Not a big fan of one or two colors washing out the whole palette either.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'll take it
LordOfChaos
Member
[Call-Me-G];179919772 said:
...What's wrong with me?!
Hah, good catch. So 5 on 360, 4 only counting FPS. 2 mainline Master Chief stories.
I wonder if we can hope for anything close on XBO. In addition to Wars 2 and Halo 5, at least another offshoot story maybe, optimistically another mainline series game as well as the offshoot story.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Definitely hoping for some alien jungle/desert/other campaign-ish unique locations for the remaining maps
SmartWaffles
Member
Yeah wishing for something that is not industrial/urban/forerunner, sanghelios/jungle would be nice.
Dynasty8
Member
I'm glad it's changed. Halo's been using the same emblem system since Halo 2. I stopped caring after Reach. I think they look awesome judging from the videos...and we haven't seen all of them yet.
Also, we still have a month to go before he game launches...so that means Launch trailer(s), hunt the truth season 2, the third Sprint series, unveiling Forge, warzone footage this Sunday, and much more. Everything is on a schedule. Chill.