RichiRamjag
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The amount of people using this is so small, it doesn't matter.
New Hori PS4 controller - People are going to get murdered...
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The amount of people using this is so small, it doesn't matter.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Logitech g13 and the PS Nav controller if you can get it working
Is this really a comfortable gamepad? :/
This has got to be a joke.
Always-honest
Banned
Looks horrible. And it will make everything a point and click game like on pc.
I rather fight for my kills. It only feels like real war on a dual analog controller.
I rather fight for my kills. It only feels like real war on a dual analog controller.
bwaha
Ok so nothing native then? Because now that I see this it seems like it's on the right track for a compromise. I prefer to play on PC but don't like kb/m outside of rts/etc.
Edit: never mind I misunderstood. The G13 is a pc peripheral.
Slamtastic
Member
people who can't handle wasd are weak and natural selection is coming for you
Azure Phoenix
Member
Why, because we recognise that four directional movement in a 3D space should stay in the mid-90s where it belongs?
That would be kind of hilarious considering they licensed it. The ultimate trap.
The amount of people who use scuff and Elite controllers, which actually provides a relatively minimal improvement, is considerable though.
If the mouse offers all the benefits of an actual mouse then it's broken.
Even if it's for <1% of the population
Razgriz-Specter
Member
If I wanted to use a mouse i'd play PC games.
xet72
Member
True though SBMM (skill based match making) definitely groups scuf & xim players together in Blops3. Around 450 up to 600spm in KC in Blops3 on consoles will line u up with Alot of xim and scuf players. Scuf aim assist vs xim (no flick 180s)is oddly balanced in Blops3.
Seraph_Nicholas
Member
I was thinking of trying out the Nav controller + mouse combo mentioned earlier in this thread for PC gaming, but I'd be really interested in seeing how this thing performs connected to a PC.
it's a pale imitation of proper mouse input, but still leagues ahead of thumbstick input for speed and precision.
that's how shit thumbsticks are.
Might as well ban everyone who using a good display with a fast response time and low input. Add in those with using a good pair of cans (headphones). Plus don't forget qos on your isp too.
The mouse has tremendous advantage over right analog stick in FPS but also wasd has incredible advantage over analog if the game moves you at full speed instantly when strafing. For Overwatch, you can juke left and right super fast while the analog stick has the acceleration time and the larger amount of thumb movement necessary to go from full speed left strafe to full speed right strafe and back.
GustyGardens
Banned
I wouldn't worry too much. Hori has been making these things since the PS3. It's really nothing new.
boneyjangles
Member
Nah, this is like turning up to an archery competition with a sniper rifle and then scoffing at those who complain.
'pfft, there's only a few of us using them'
'if you want to do better, you can buy one too'
I don't want to, I want to play in an archery competition, and not with people playing under a whole different set of rules. They can go to the shooting competition down the road (pc online gaming).
Mice have been usable on every single console that can go online. it's been broken since day 1. Look at this OG Xbox adaptor:
I concur, in theory.
Still waiting on thumbstick is superior for FPS movement crew to step forward with actual evidence - Quake Live video, CS:GO, themselves with it in hand, whatever - before I can be more certain as they seem pretty severe in their stance.
Sanctuary
Member
That's what I was talking about. It's not like they purchased the system and the controller was part of the default package. They ended up buying that controller so that they could do better in shooters, the same as anyone could. Similarly to how a lot of people buy arcade sticks for fighting games.
Coolade
Member
Here is Kotaku's review
http://kotaku.com/hori-tactical-assault-commander-pro-review-a-modest-mo-1788600202
http://kotaku.com/hori-tactical-assault-commander-pro-review-a-modest-mo-1788600202
xrnzaaas
Member
Looks fairly decent if you don't mind playing like on PC so by setting the controllers on the table.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Within the context of console gaming, these mouse accessories are just unfair and wrong.
wesleyshark
Banned
Are they really, though?
Here's another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_BymuBPAA
I guess it really works and is well implemented.
If it's a good or bad thing I don't know but it works really well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co_BymuBPAA
I guess it really works and is well implemented.
If it's a good or bad thing I don't know but it works really well.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Honestly, I'd kill for one of those if it was ambidextrous or had left handed version.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Yes.
If you are having wrist issues/fatique, you should consider buying a wrist brace. You don't want to develop any lasting issues. Shouldn't cost more than $30 and it will last. Also make sure that your posture is good, and your chair is at proper height.
Rodney McKay
Member
Something like this might work for you:
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard
It's basically a small, one-hand keyboard with an analog stick
Back when I played my PC games at a desk, I always thought about getting one, but eventually I just switched over to couch gaming with my PC.
You could try out the Steam Controller too. I have one and honestly haven't used it with enough games to know if I like it or not. Games with native gamepad support I always feel play better with a normal controller (360, DS4, XB1), even games with lots of shooting like MGSV.
Spiral Insanity
Banned
The fuck is this shit?!
The mongoloid style is probably the best way to play in my opinion, where you hold a controller in one hand and mouse in the other, with wasd it always annoys me that there are usually only 3 speeds to move at, walk, run, and sprint. With analog it's just so much better to move around.
Hoffelcopter
Member
Most of you guys don't understand that in most games. The advantage would be minimal at best.
Most of your console FPS have a pretty low movement speed cap when it comes to aiming. It makes it near impossible to get those twitch aiming skills that are famous on PC.
There is little to not advantage to using this over a controller on 95% of online shooters.
I used the XIM4 on Destiny and Overwatch and the max turn speed negated nearly every advantage I would have had.
Most of your console FPS have a pretty low movement speed cap when it comes to aiming. It makes it near impossible to get those twitch aiming skills that are famous on PC.
There is little to not advantage to using this over a controller on 95% of online shooters.
I used the XIM4 on Destiny and Overwatch and the max turn speed negated nearly every advantage I would have had.
But wasn't your aim better/precise? Also - you're jumping without taking your hand off the mouse to aim (like a modded controller). I looked into a Xim (and the Hori) - i can't justify the price tho.
I played FPSs since Quake I think (or some other game with free mouse aim from that time) with M+K. The PS4 was my first console. I tried, but I'm too old to learn proper aiming with a controller, and I don't want to.
I play mainly SP FPS games, so I don't care about "cheating" that much.
I'll keep using my Titan One though, that does not look too promising
I play mainly SP FPS games, so I don't care about "cheating" that much.
I'll keep using my Titan One though, that does not look too promising
sixteen-bit
Member
LGR Review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-6tHL0iMI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-6tHL0iMI4
Yeah, saw this one this morning. It's nice they tried, but sounds pretty much like a waste of money.