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[Redbeard]

What did you want?

You can move it in all four direction as well as tilt it. I'd say that's perfect right there...

He just said the camera could tilt, not that you could move it around, which is better. As long as I can orient the camera to see in front of me I'll be happy (without having to switch into fp).

 

[Littleberu]

He just said the camera could tilt, not that you could move it around, which is better. As long as I can orient the camera to see in front of me I'll be happy (without having to switch into fp).

You can't. That's the point of stealth gameplay.

 

[Redbeard]

So not being able to see in the direction my character is facing is the point of stealth gameplay?

 

[Warm Machine]

I can only hope the controls and the gameplay animations are improved over the other MGS games.

 

[Socreges]

He just said the camera could tilt, not that you could move it around, which is better. As long as I can orient the camera to see in front of me I'll be happy (without having to switch into fp).

No, his post was misleading. The camera is fixed in one position and you can tilt it to look left, right, up, or down. (unless I'm missing out on something here and you CAN swing it around)

In my opinion, it is, without question, flawed. It can get frustrating at times to have such a restricted camera. And no, it's not necessary to maintain stealth gameplay. Kojima has taken the approach to have more cinematic control over the game's perspective.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

It beats the DIY manual camera of the Splinter Cell games. I hate that. The game should control the camera to some extent.

 

[Lord Error]

I can only hope the controls and the gameplay animations are improved over the other MGS games.

You know, your comment is kinda weird because MGS2 already had some of the smoothest controls and excellent animation. They have, however, improved both in MGS3.

 

[Lakitu]

I've got a feeling that the camera will receive much criticism come reviews.

 

[Littleberu]

So not being able to see in the direction my character is facing is the point of stealth gameplay?

No, the point is to get against a wall to see what's going on. Splinter Cell free-camera is way too easy (and bad anyway).

 

[Socreges]

I've got a feeling that the camera will receive much criticism come reviews.

Maybe, but even with my criticisms I think it's pretty effective and tolerable.

 

[ToyMachine228]

This will be the second PS2 game that I am buying this fall. The first of course, was GTA: San Andreas.

 

[Makura]

Did the Ubi Soft team go to the jungle for SC3? I dont think so.

Kojima > All

 

[Littleberu]

Did the Ubi Soft team go to the jungle for SC3? I dont think so.

Kojima > All

SC3 isn't set in the jungle.

 

[Lakitu]

I think he meant SC 2

 

[EekTheKat]

/fanboy rationalization on

As odd as this sounds, I think the limited camera option in MGS forces you to focus more on the game instead of twiddling around with camera positioning.

Least after playing MGS for a while, I tend to just ignore the camera now. Occasionally I would whereas in splinter cell I'm nearly always trying to correct the camera for a better view.

and really after a while, the camera positioning in mgs doesn't bother me at all, outside of pushing a button to check on first person it's entirely manageable.

Also I think the general gameplay overhead camera view of MGS gives it a tie to the old 2d metal gear games.

 

[Littleberu]

The thing is that in MGS3, the ennemy won't be "out of sight". If you need to see the ennemy, you'll see him.

 

[EmSeta]

She looks like John Kerry.

 

[u_neek]

She looks like John Kerry.

I'd hit him!

 

[Lakitu]

Removed but to my defense I thought foreign scans were allowed. I can tolerate being banned though. I apologize.

 

[Forsete]

Jebus cripes this game looks hot!

I like the gameplay a lot better in this, its much harder this time.

 

[Solid]

Are those scans? I'd remove them quick if I were you :|

 

[Lakitu]

Are those scans? I'd remove them quick if I were you :|

Removed them but, apparently the mag is somewhat old (according to some), and I thought it was allowed.

 

[Solid]

Removed them but, apparently the mag is somewhat old (according to some), and I thought it was allowed.

I'm not a mod so I can't say if it's allowed or not. I just don't want you banned, you're a good member

 

[Lakitu]

Thanx buddy It's been posted on Team Xbox aswell but I'll refrain posting it here without permission. However someone who had the mags, shared with us some tidbits.

-SPOILER:

Spoiler

Snake finds an abandoned house in the woods (probably the same as the one in the E3 2K4 trailer) and once he gets inside, he decides to close his eyes for a while, then falls asleep. He is then woken up by the morning sunlight and hears footsteps. Snake then opens the hatch and goes under the house, then an action scene against guards commences where you have to kill them.

-You can sneak around bases without entering them (much like the screens with the Hind) and you can complete the whole game without seeing many places. Must be pretty big? Also,

Spoiler

there's a part where you have to crawl through a hole in an electric fence

.

-The third was about the Ocelot, The Pain boss fights. They say,

Spoiler

Ocelot's is similar to the Olga one from MGS 2, and The Pain bossfight is very fun, he uses some kind of machine gun, looking forward to it.

-Also, they complained about the camera. :\