LegendofLex
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I'm pretty sure Xenoblade outsold every other Xeno game combined.
So... why are they advancing elements from their less-successful venture? That's like Nintendo re-releasing TWW levels of crazy.
New 'X' trailer [Monolithsoft] shows uncut gameplay
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I'm pretty sure Xenoblade outsold every other Xeno game combined.
So... why are they advancing elements from their less-successful venture? That's like Nintendo re-releasing TWW levels of crazy.
You're right. They haven't said jack. I might have been thinking of screenshots from last year.
SoraanTribal
Member
I'm hoping for E3... that feels forever away. I realllllly hope we get a release date/name at E3... seriously, it's been a year now since it was revealed. It's time. I don't see the need in hiding the name unless they still aren't sure how to market it?
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Interceptor
Banned
Where the hell did you get that from? That's not even close to true. :/
Guys, can we, like, refrain from pulling shit out of our asses?
The series would have died a long time ago.
How sure are you? IIRC, Xenogears sold close to a million worldwide. Has Xenoblade come close or exceeded that?
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Xenoblade was hailed by many, if not most, reviewers as the JRPG of the generation. Stop.
You guys.... you are responding to Kyon in a Nintendo thread.
All of you are insane, hahahaha.
Last I checked, Gears by itself sold about a million units in Japan alone. Whereas Xenoblade opened at ~80k, and its last tracked number was ~145k (also in Japan).
We only have Japanese numbers for Xenoblade. I would probably say no, but without hard numbers, who knows?
I do wonder if there will be a more "high stakes" storyline to this game, the toned down colors and the style of the music give me a more "mature" vibe! There were the tender violins and pianos in Xenoblade but the music in X so far seems to be more "intense." I loved the "setting off fireworks" feeling of Xenoblade's combat (do I launch them all at once and have to wait to do so again, or do I carefully select and set off the fireworks at the right times while the rest reload?), so I hope they make the feel of the combat in this game as satisfying as it was for me in Xenoblade. And I'm hoping that auras, gems and such end up being vital to combat strategy in some cases. I know there's the option of using Mechs but I imagine it can be a case of giving the player choice in how he or she likes to play (in other words, you don't have to use the mech if you want a challenge, just like how in Xenoblade it's up to the player to choose to make a challenge for himself by fighting higher level enemies rather than grinding all the time).
I will miss the treasure chests though
(I am seeing it right that they are replaced with a "battle spoils" pop-up window?) But sometimes it was annoying to see a gold treasure chest in Xenoblade fall down off a bridge into an abyss or something and not be able to get it. Of course there's also that city with cars and such in it but that wasn't touched on here, this was just some footage of how a battle might go, so I hope next time they show some of that city! Looking forward to this game.
I will miss the treasure chests though
(I am seeing it right that they are replaced with a "battle spoils" pop-up window?) But sometimes it was annoying to see a gold treasure chest in Xenoblade fall down off a bridge into an abyss or something and not be able to get it. Of course there's also that city with cars and such in it but that wasn't touched on here, this was just some footage of how a battle might go, so I hope next time they show some of that city! Looking forward to this game.Huge Succeeded: The Story of the American Advancement in Space
Wait...Except in that case for anyone who has played Xenoblade can see the gameplay is like it, on the other hand if anyone has played Monster Hunter can definitely see it isn't like it at all.
There's people blurting out that it looks like a MMO, which I can also agree with as Xenoblade looked like a MMO too but it of course it was offline.
With the case of this latest trailer, what's so "pretty clear" of it that makes you say with certainty that it was single player with no doubt?
thetrin
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I love having numbers everywhere. I wish more games did that.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
The only thing I don't like is the PRESS B FOR SUCCESS.
After watching the gameplay trailer about 100 times, I'm so fucking hyped.
After watching the gameplay trailer about 100 times, I'm so fucking hyped.
Fixed.
The fact that the AI basically stood around and followed the players moves and worked with him, far more than human players would.
timetokill
Banned
Looks fucking awesome. I don't get the complaints about the combat at all... at least from people that actually played through Xenoblade. The combat system was very dynamic and constantly engaging. It starts out pretty simply with Shulk and Reyn but by the time you've got Melia it gets really inventive and impressive. The different ways you can customize the characters and which parties you put together is pretty awesome.
I wouldn't have put 200+ hours into the game if the battle system didn't have depth and wasn't fun to play with.
I wouldn't have put 200+ hours into the game if the battle system didn't have depth and wasn't fun to play with.
DangerMouse
Member
After seeing how much more depth the combat has.....
I can't wait to fight that thing.
Man, this needs to be the single-player story-focused game I want it to be so it nails everything like the previous Xeno-games, cause this combat looks fantastic.
SoraanTribal
Member
I will miss the treasure chests though
I'm not sure how I feel about losing them. On the one hand, I did like the treasure chests because it was always fun seeing a silver or gold one pop up and wondering what was inside. On the other hand, I hated that little pause while the game loaded the contents, especially if you had several to open in a row. lol
Lol, agreed.
Obviously it's cool if you dug Xenoblade way more than past entries, but no it did not sell more than the 4 previous ones.
thanks. not happening again. Do not know the user.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Yeah, pretty much where I'm at too. Imagine these visuals with gears's existential mindfuck of a story.
Follow systems for players exist in other games and I expect if these are people like staff that they would be coordinated for something like footage they know would be shown to the public. I'll point out specifically that them all running to the mech at the same time was the most interesting part of that though but if these were to say character owned mechs (Like if you had no ability to teleport them) and they are main transportation method would it seem so strange for a re-enter Mech system after battle choice? As you probably wouldn't want to leave them miles behind.
The initial trailer with the chatlog had "party members" follow the PC like AI at the same time as well. I wouldn't like it but what if the online was drop in/out and people are forced to follow the host like AI outside battle?
I personally wouldn't call this being pretty clear at all.
Yeah, it's too bad...fingers crossed it's still 2014 though. I know Nintendo (at least, in part, right?) owns Monolith so I get why it's coming out on Wii U, but I can't help but feel the game isn't going to do well. The Xeno series has always been relatively niche...I'm shocked Xenogears did as well as it did, though I think some of its success can be attributed to Squaresoft's success at the time on PS1. The idea of a long, hardcore, mech-styled JRPG on the Wii U is fine with me (and clearly others on GAF), but it really can't be properly pushed as Nintendo's big megaton kind of game. Mario Kart, Smash, etc. sure, but X?
As an owner of both, I think the audience as well as install base would benefit the game being on something like PS4, but I digress...if I get the game, I'll be happy.
I was disappointed with the footage they decided to show. It doesn't really show much of the gameplay in a way that people are going to be able to relate to. They should have added a few extra scenes to add some context, like for example what they are doing out there.
There are a few details shown in the footage though, that are interesting. I wasn't a fan of Xenoblade's combat, but I think some tweaks could make it fun. In the footage, we've seen that the characters can swap weapons and jump in and out of their 'dolls.' Also by the character UI, it looks like all four characters have dolls. I do think some kind of optional online system could be cool if it was implemented in the game, in a way kind of like Dark Souls. You give the option to play offline, or online with other people. Could make Xenoblade's somewhat dull battle system more interesting in my opinion.
Either way, I'm still looking forward to the game. The visuals look nice and I'm sure we are going to get a big Takahashi story like usual.
There are a few details shown in the footage though, that are interesting. I wasn't a fan of Xenoblade's combat, but I think some tweaks could make it fun. In the footage, we've seen that the characters can swap weapons and jump in and out of their 'dolls.' Also by the character UI, it looks like all four characters have dolls. I do think some kind of optional online system could be cool if it was implemented in the game, in a way kind of like Dark Souls. You give the option to play offline, or online with other people. Could make Xenoblade's somewhat dull battle system more interesting in my opinion.
Either way, I'm still looking forward to the game. The visuals look nice and I'm sure we are going to get a big Takahashi story like usual.
I'll flat out say that I LOVED those treasure chests, especially running into ones I forgot to open, much later in the game, as a kind of monument to a battle from long before! The blue orbs have been replaced with blue glow sticks though. Maybe there'll be some interactivity with the environment beyond "pressing A" to activate things.
^^Well, sometimes I hope that those "Zelda" Nintendo gamers will be able to look at a series like Xeno- and include it in their "go to" when they think of Nintendo consoles like they do with 3D Mario and Zelda, I don't know if that sort of a situation was hoped for when Nintendo acquired MonolithSoft, but I hope it happens sometime. When I saw Xenoblade in a story about Operation Rainfall (this was while I was checking up on Skyward Sword) I didn't think "Oh, a JRPG! That's just a game for JRPG fans and I don't play JRPGS so I can't get it," I thought "Oh wow, that's an awesome looking game with a big adventure in a huge world, Nintendo made this?" So while the "JRPG" genre seems to be a "Sony" console thing, it'd be nice if the "Nintendo gamer" saw Xeno- as a Nintendo game and consider it along the lines of Metroid or Zelda when they're off to purchase a new game for their Nintendo console.
I don't know who that is. Never heard of the guy until today. Should we know who this guy is?
Nintendo should have done a better job showing gameplay for the first time, make Bill Trinen introduce the world, the setting, mention the genre, past games of the creators and then introduce the mechanics on a 5:00 video. Not only it failed to increase the interest gathered by the first two teasers but it has led to some confusion and as usual game journalists dont brother to clarify the mechanics or simply just lazily decide to post some gifs and call it a day. And no "Play Xenoblade" doesnt cut it since no one played it.
After seeing how much more depth the combat has.....
I can't wait to fight that thing.
That makes me wish for direct third person shooter controls. Oh well, glad so many are looking forward to it, hope it is great even though it is not what I thought and hoped
After seeing how much more depth the combat has.....
I can't wait to fight that thing.
Holy shit I don't remember seeing that anywhere?!?!?!
bobbychalkers
Member
That makes me wish for direct third person shooter controls. Oh well, glad so many are looking forward to it, hope it is great even though it is not what I thought and hoped
The game has some shooting sections in it. Shown from the first trailer.
The game has some shooting sections in it. Shown from the first trailer.
This might just be a cutscene, though.
TC McQueen
Member
I've got three big issues with the combat (so far):
-There doesn't seem to be any physics effects on or physical reactions from enemies when you're pumping them full of bullets or beating the crap out of them with swords.
-The UI is extremely cluttered, even ignoring the huge as damage numbers being vomited on the screen.
-All the weapons and mechs feel very weak, especially when it comes to sound design.
This game does seem interesting, but it feels like the guys designing the game didn't really do (or haven't gotten around to doing) anything to make the player character and the party feel powerful and thereby make the opponents seem more threatening. For example, XCOM has some pretty meaty sound effects for the starter guns, so that when you start going up against tougher enemies and those guns start falling short, you feel like those bad guys are dangerous because they're tougher and harder to beat.
-There doesn't seem to be any physics effects on or physical reactions from enemies when you're pumping them full of bullets or beating the crap out of them with swords.
-The UI is extremely cluttered, even ignoring the huge as damage numbers being vomited on the screen.
-All the weapons and mechs feel very weak, especially when it comes to sound design.
This game does seem interesting, but it feels like the guys designing the game didn't really do (or haven't gotten around to doing) anything to make the player character and the party feel powerful and thereby make the opponents seem more threatening. For example, XCOM has some pretty meaty sound effects for the starter guns, so that when you start going up against tougher enemies and those guns start falling short, you feel like those bad guys are dangerous because they're tougher and harder to beat.
Idk, seems very gameplay-ey.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Let's just say... expecting Kyon to say anything good about Nintendo in a Nintendo thread is just like expecting SmokyDave to actually telling people to get 3DS over Vita, hahaha.
IT'S NOT A MONSTER HUNTER CLONE. Good god. It's about as furthest away from Monster Hunter as you can get.
This is another one of those, 'if enough people say it, everyone starts believing it' sort of brainwashing going on.
Xenoblade had very little in common with Monster Hunter. I doubt this game will as well, besides the fact that you can fight lots of powerful monsters. But then again, almost every rpg in existence has that in common with Monster Hunter.