Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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o'dium said:
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Exactly!
Dude you got triggered from someone straight up giving hard info and not some damn read between the lines while playing hopscotch blindfolded while trying to put your pants on type of shit!

edit: Tommy fisher not BG

re read his reply! He had you freaking meltdown over that!!
 
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splattered said:
OK, nice to know Sony has you totally under control. Got it.

You don't just let your competitor get all the spotlight and not say anything unless you're in trouble.

The only way for the Sony reveal to be more impactful now is if the system is some sort of wacky switch hybrid or something else out of left field.

The power narrative has already been spun by Microsoft so there will be less of an impact there for Sony. In that case they will have to rely on games or gimmicks.

And I guess that being said there is a third option I didnt originally consider... mentioning gimmicks just now I wonder if they are hoping to reveal ths psvr2 alongside the ps5 and it isn't quite ready for public showing so that's what's holding things up?
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No.

If Fiat releases new car, does Ferrari have to release something or they will lose their epic reputation as sport car company?

Every time someone assumes that MS can "steal" Sonys spotlight I just wonder that do you people even follow the gaming indrusty?

Sony have been dominating basically since ps1 (ps3 had it's flaws but still won as ms wasted billions into faulty consoles), they are globally much stronger as console brand than MS.

They literally just have to reveal the system and it gets multiple times more attention than xbox does.

Also, seems that people like you assume that "if xbox is more powerful, ps5 will lose remarkable amount of customers". No, they wont.

Just look xbox X, if power would mean more than games + brand, it would sell tons more.

Sony can wait and reveal ps5 when they want, MS is the underdog and they kind of have to do it sooner as after ps5 reveal, there is just PS PS PS and not tvtvtv. And imo xbox isnt even real competitor vs playstation. It is just another console which tries to stay on the market with money spam
 
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PocoJoe said:
No.

If Fiat releases new car, does Ferrari have to release something or they will lose their epic reputation as sport car company?

Every time someone assumes that MS can "steal" Sonys spotlight I just wonder that do you people even follow the gaming indrusty?

Sony have been dominating basically since ps1 (ps3 had it's flaws but still won as ms wasted billions into faulty consoles), they are globally much stronger as console brand than MS.

They literally just have to reveal the system and it gets multiple times more attention than xbox does.

Also, seems that people like you assume that "if xbox is more powerful, ps5 will lose remarkable amount of customers". No, they wont.

Just look xbox X, if power would mean more than games + brand, it would sell tons more.

Sony can wait and reveal ps5 when they want, MS is the underdog and they kind of have to do it sooner as after ps5 reveal, there is just PS PS PS and not tvtvtv.
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Well it sounds like this generation is going to be Lamborghini vs Ferari. So yeah, not that they're in the same league, spotlights may be stolen.
 
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o'dium said:
Well, I've given my reasons as to why I say 10.5-11.5, but at least it's not "there's a pro that's out at release but also two years later!" 🤣 so while those tf figures he gave are baba, they could also be, I dunno, something... maybe... I don't know, but no, I don't buy it for a second.



No but the trouble with just blanket saying "all past titles" is that a bloody shit load of them are just not possible anymore to be downloaded online due to licensing issues and publishers going bump and all sorts. But you could still offer disk based emulation.
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He said "almost all" ! Yeah dude shake that fanboy shit man, you just like snapped on dude!
 
Burrito Bandito said:
this forum and era is a ps fanboy echo chamber lol. its like 80% ps fanboys circle jerking over the couple xbox fanboys. its quite comical to watch ps fanboys discuss xbox fanboys. its like being a republican in los angeles
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Maybe it is because Sony sold like 60M more consoles than Microsoft this gen and it has been in the gaming indrustry since 1995.

Look at me, I have this 2 meaningful memories from my childhood:

This one from Sony:

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And this one from Microsoft:

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So, as you could imagine, I am a one-sided person in this matter but you will not see me spreading crap and misinformation about Xbox.

Happy with your 12ft machine? Good for you ;)
 
o'dium said:
Im going to be perfectly blunt with you here. No.

The reason being that even TODAY, a FOURTEEN terror flopping console is going to be stupidly expensive, to the point that it's far beyond a mass adoption rate and would likely stall at retail. But two years ago? Even worse.

This is the problem many face. They think that 13.8 tf is "only" 1.8tf more than a 12tf console, and if Xbox can do that, then why not? Well because what Xbox are doing is pretty much about as high as you can push things before you start running into problems. Heat, yields, they all add up, and even though it's perfectly possible to throw more CUs at higher speeds into there, it becomes less feasible very quickly.

Now notice I haven't said impossible. It's possible. Anything is. But the higher you go in spec, the harder It becomes to reach, exponentially almost, because you are approaching the maximum threshold that the hardware will allow. And once you do that, you need to start over and reach those goals both effectively and within a reachable budget.

Is a 13.8 tf PS5 possible? Yes, absolutely. but the yields on the chips will be so low, that you're looking at a crazy expensive piece of kit. And while there are quite clearly people on this board who would sell their own grandmothers to buy one at any cost, you aren't selling to your rabbid fan boy base - you're making something that has to be successful on a mass market level.

so 13.8tf? At $500? Jesus... I can't even think about the loses they would have to take.
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Maybe I explained it badly or got lost in the English translation. I didn't mean 13.8 or 14.2 tf RDNA because that would be extremely expensive and the XBOX bom seems to be a bit taller than the PS5. I was referring to tf GNC, which would then translate to 11,x in tf rdna, would be below XSX but not so far.


Similarly, thanks for the reply!
 
Smoke6 said:
Exactly!
Dude you got triggered from someone straight up giving hard info and not some damn read between the lines while playing hopscotch blindfolded while trying to put your pants on type of shit!

edit: Tommy fisher not BG

re read his reply! He had you freaking meltdown over that!!
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wat.
 
Rusco Da Vino said:
Maybe it is because Sony sold like 60M more consoles than Microsoft this gen and it has been in the gaming indrustry since 1995.

Look at me, I have this 2 meaningful memories from my childhood:

This one from Sony:

Nz2cis6.gif


And this one from Microsoft:

ydR76jV.gif


So, as you could imagine, I am a one-sided person in this matter but you will not see me spreading crap and misinformation about Xbox.

Happy with your 12ft machine? Good for you ;)
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That's actually kind of sad.
 
Gamernyc78 said:
Dominate gaming? Yeah they've been doing a great job of it, as a matter fact a good example of the awesome job is losing this gen the little market share they scrapped up during the 360 days.

Figures a new member spewing nonsense 🤦‍♂️the amount of new members spewing propoganda and schilling for Microsoft in the last two weeks has exponentially grown.
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It evens the field a bit. Is that very disturbing to you?
 
If a reveal is coming I think it's going to be video, not a live event. Japan just shutdown every school in the country for a solid month.

Olympic committee considering canceling the Torch Relay now.
 
Gamernyc78 said:
Dominate gaming? Yeah they've been doing a great job of it, as a matter fact a good example of the awesome job is losing this gen the little market share they scrapped up during the 360 days.

Figures a new member spewing nonsense 🤦‍♂️the amount of new members spewing propoganda and schilling for Microsoft in the last two weeks has exponentially grown.
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Devs are lining up for MS jobs. Stock market up through the roof. This is age of corporations.
 
Sycomunkee said:
If the Devkit is 14 TF it seems like they would need 2TF for headroom. The Xbox One X had .6TF for headroom, however, considering the fidelity levels are increasing along with raytracing, I feel like my assumption is a safe bet.
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I would love it if they're just even and we can end this drivel and make it about the games
 
Roronoa Zoro said:
I would love it if they're just even and we can end this drivel and make it about the games
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I concur. I can't wait to see the games each of these companies are producing. I really feel like Microsoft has found it's footing and allowing devs to put the care and attention that Sony has allowed their devs to do. I keep saying this, but we're in for a treat when it comes to games next-gen, I feel bad for those that chose a side.
 
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This is interesting. Someone in the other site posted this older tweet that shows it was actually Ariel that was stepped to E0 and not Oberon. So it appears they were working on both chips at same time?
 
Rusco Da Vino said:
Maybe it is because Sony sold like 60M more consoles than Microsoft this gen and it has been in the gaming indrustry since 1995.

Look at me, I have this 2 meaningful memories from my childhood:

This one from Sony:

Nz2cis6.gif


And this one from Microsoft:

ydR76jV.gif


So, as you could imagine, I am a one-sided person in this matter but you will not see me spreading crap and misinformation about Xbox.

Happy with your 12ft machine? Good for you ;)
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It's cringey but I love console warring 🤣🤣🤣
 
BlacknGold_Blood said:
This is interesting. Someone in the other site posted this older tweet that shows it was actually Ariel that was stepped to E0 and not Oberon. So it appears they were working on both chips at same time?
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Welp. If true, that means the 2 GHz Oberon ran too hot and they went back to Ariel and 1.8 GHz as a fallback solution. I don't think PS5 will be just 8 TF. That would be all kinds of stupid, that puts them closer to Lockhart than XSX. Unless they have a second SKU (I remember Pachter saying it would cost over $800) it makes no sense. An 8 TF PS5 and a 14 TF PS5 Pro at 399 and 599 would make sense. With Lockhart and XSX at 299 and 499.
 
demigod said:
Yeah you believe that leak because it fits your narrative 8TF, not because it's releasing early 2020 huh.
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I just told them add this leak to the pile of inconstant leaks about PS5 and that's it also keep on living in your imaginary world i'm sure The House of Playstation would appreciate your contribute to the console war

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darkinstinct said:
Welp. If true, that means the 2 GHz Oberon ran too hot and they went back to Ariel and 1.8 GHz as a fallback solution. I don't think PS5 will be just 8 TF. That would be all kinds of stupid, that puts them closer to Lockhart than XSX. Unless they have a second SKU (I remember Pachter saying it would cost over $800) it makes no sense. An 8 TF PS5 and a 14 TF PS5 Pro at 399 and 599 would make sense. With Lockhart and XSX at 299 and 499.
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We've also seen reports that Ariel is being used by Apple, so that further confuses me.
 
darkinstinct said:
Welp. If true, that means the 2 GHz Oberon ran too hot and they went back to Ariel and 1.8 GHz as a fallback solution. I don't think PS5 will be just 8 TF. That would be all kinds of stupid, that puts them closer to Lockhart than XSX. Unless they have a second SKU (I remember Pachter saying it would cost over $800) it makes no sense. An 8 TF PS5 and a 14 TF PS5 Pro at 399 and 599 would make sense. With Lockhart and XSX at 299 and 499.
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Its wrong. Its Oberon. Komachi made a mistake.

Check this tweet



00840F40 (for Komachi Ariel E0) is actually 13F9, but 13F9 is Oberon.

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I think Komachi assumed Ariel = Oberon, but 13F9 (Oberon) is not 13E9 (Ariel).
 
trancefreak64 said:
I think it looks sexy AF. I hope to score one of these limited edition variants for myself. My 2 sons that like Xbox will get Lockhart 🤣😭🤣
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That design is awesome. Made by Xbox Pope, who has all sorts of cool shit he makes. I had the Halo MC 360 wayyy back in the day, but it didn't look this good.

Funny you say that, because earlier I was joking how I'll be getting my boys Lockharts, so I hope they're affordable. A 10 and 12yr-old with their track record of console treatment don't need $500+ units. Although, I do admit they've been pretty good to their X1S's and their new Switch Lites.
 
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Zero909 said:
I just told them add this leak to the pile of inconstant leaks about PS5 and that's it also keep on living in your imaginary world i'm sure The House of Playstation would appreciate your contribute to the console war
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No, that's not what you did and you know it. Keep spinning.
 
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