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[Rocco Schiavone]

Strange that they didn't mention that the game runs on the series S in 900p to achieve 60 fps.

 

[sircaw]

Watch from 5:10 onwards and he says its always the small details that that stands out the most.

Not to be an arse don't say that line when all the shelves in the shop look identical. ffs

Other than that game looks fun

 

[GreyHand23]

I also think the IO of PS5 is legit. But we now the raw and compressed speeds of both SSD's. We know that there isn't a 7x difference. So that's why the PS5 track loading won't be in 2sec, if the same track takes 15sec on the XSX.

What we don't know however, is whether Microsoft eliminated all of the bottlenecks in I/O system so they can actually fully realize that raw and compressed speed. We also don't know how much additional work it takes to actually use Velocity Architecture to its full capability. Some devs may not put in the effort if its not a simple process.

 

[Md Ray]

Strange that they didn't mention that the game runs on the series S in 900p to achieve 60 fps.

I guess they will when they take a look at the XSS version. In a separate video, of course.

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

Yeah, but you can say the same about the XSX, and that is loading in 15sec. That should also just be much faster.

Good point on Yakuza/Dirt5, two possibilities. Microsoft doesn't let them talk about it, or they didn't find it newsworthy. Make of that what you will.


I also think the IO of PS5 is legit. But we now the raw and compressed speeds of both SSD's. We know that there isn't a 7x difference. So that's why the PS5 track loading won't be in 2sec, if the same track takes 15sec on the XSX.

I expected xbox to be a bit faster so whoknows why it isn't.

Its using velocity architecture but either its not working well yet or its mostly PR, IMO.

We know about the bottlenecks Cerny mentioned, if not eliminated then this would add time.

We know Xbox uses the CPU for io and this means latency I believe relying on cycles. PS5 has dedicated hardware for this to eliminate those many many areas bottlenecks can occur.

I can only presume Microsoft has not eliminated them.

 

[Md Ray]

I expected xbox to be a bit faster so whoknows why it isn't.

Its using velocity architecture but either its not working well yet or its mostly PR, IMO.

We know about the bottlenecks Cerny mentioned, if not eliminated then this would add time.

We know Xbox uses the CPU for io and this means latency I believe relying on cycles. PS5 has dedicated hardware for this to eliminate those many many areas bottlenecks can occur.

I can only presume Microsoft has not eliminated them.

VA is definitely a marketing name.

EDIT:
Xbox also has a dedicated block for decompression.

"Our second component is a high-speed hardware decompression block that can deliver over 6GB/s," reveals Andrew Goossen. "This is a dedicated silicon block that offloads decompression work from the CPU and is matched to the SSD so that decompression is never a bottleneck. The decompression hardware supports Zlib for general data and a new compression [system] called BCPack that is tailored to the GPU textures that typically comprise the vast majority of a game's package size."

"It's less latent and it saves a ton of CPU. With the best competitive solution, we found doing decompression software to match the SSD rate would have consumed three Zen 2 CPU cores. When you add in the IO CPU overhead, that's another two cores. So the resulting workload would have completely consumed five Zen 2 CPU cores when now it only takes a tenth of a CPU core. So in other words, to equal the performance of a Series X at its full IO rate, you would need to build a PC with 13 Zen 2 cores. That's seven cores dedicated for the game: one for Windows and shell and five for the IO and decompression overhead."

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[yewles1]

I guess they will when they take a look at the XSS version. In a separate video, of course.

This better not be dynamic and go down to like 720p... *braces*

 

[Mr Moose]

I'll eat my hat.

What type of hat?

 

[Thirty7ven]

Yeah, but you can say the same about the XSX, and that is loading in 15sec. That should also just be much faster.

Good point on Yakuza/Dirt5, two possibilities. Microsoft doesn't let them talk about it, or they didn't find it newsworthy. Make of that what you will.


I also think the IO of PS5 is legit. But we now the raw and compressed speeds of both SSD's. We know that there isn't a 7x difference. So that's why the PS5 track loading won't be in 2sec, if the same track takes 15sec on the XSX.

We will see, I believe otherwise. As I understand it, MS marketing aside, the XVA isn’t nearly as efficient at eliminating bottlenecks as the PS5 IO so I expect to see a marked difference between the two.

 

[reksveks]

VA is definitely a marketing name.

EDIT:
Xbox also has a dedicated block for decompression.

VA is a number of things including certain things that need to be supported in the game engine so can't just quantify it as a single thing or dismiss it as a single thing. The most interesting thing for me is SFS which definitely won't be implemented in engines now but will also help PC games as well.

 

[Sinthor]

Why is 11-15sec unimpressive? How fast are you currently loading your games on PS4?

Also not sure why you compare Sony games 2-3sec loading time, with Dirt5, a 3rd party multi-platform game. Shouldn't you be comparing Dirt5 on XSX with Dirt5 on PS5 to know how much faster it loads? It will load faster, but if Dirt5 tracks suddenly load in 2-3sec on PS5 and XSX in 15sec, I'll eat my hat.

Ok, I have to weigh in here. I'm getting a PS5..I haven't made a secret of that. I've stuck with Sony for almost all of my console gaming. But I want to weigh in here on the loading times and this argument.

11-15 seconds or so loading time IS FUCKING FAST! PERIOD. It's a HUGE jump over current gen. I don't care if the PS5 loads everything in 1 second by comparison, the 11 seconds or so for XSX is STILL FAST.

So we don't know right now any comparison and which box will load what faster, but it's a good bet that the PS5 likely will be faster...MAYBE by 2x...we just don't know. Even if that's the case, it doesn't take away from the XSX being damn fast and a huge jump for gamers.

So until we have comparisons for each box loading the same game and want to inanely argue why whatever difference there is is universe shattering and makes the other side stupid (sarcasm, folks!) let's just chilly-chill a bit. Both machines are going to be a quantum leap ahead of what we've all been using. Acting like 10-15 seconds load time is SLOW, is just disingenuous. Yes, yes, I know...if the PS5 is 5 seconds then it's much faster....but seriously? Still doesn't make 10-15 seconds SLOW. And that's IF there's that kind of difference between the PS5 and XSX.

So, short version- the XSX is loading things GODDAMN FAST. It's fast. Period. Now we want to see MORE of that and with different scenarios (what about "native" XSX games, for example?) and then we also want to see what the PS5 does with any 'quick resume' that may or may not be supported (we don't know officially) and with loading games from the main UI. But that's it.

 

[Axonometri]

I think Craig lives in these rocks:

I see Craig's dog also

 

[Deleted member 775630]

What type of hat?

I actually don't own a hat, never need one

 

[Orky]

We will see, I believe otherwise. As I understand it, MS marketing aside, the XVA isn’t nearly as efficient at eliminating bottlenecks as the PS5 IO so I expect to see a marked difference between the two.

and I believe otherwise. We’ve seen the leaked Boot time for PS5, if it’s indeed true then XSX would actually boot faster than PS5.
Also, if the PS5 is so much faster with everything why not show us the UI? Or show us loading a game from the UI? Why only show ingame respawns or ingame loading screens?

 

[Bo_Hazem]

I know the trailer well; in motion isn't the same as in game.. I just don't understand any screenshot comparisons that aren't from someone actually playing. Not even just about the graphics, it's just not what any player ever sees (random camera angles.)

GT looks amazing either way, really more speaking generally.. games can have bad framerates, bad animation, lots of particle effects that don't "screenshot well," etc.

GIF wars make way more sense lol

Man what's wrong with you, I made those screenshots out of the video! Here:

And no, it's not silly. You know what is silly? Saying Dirt 5 looks good while it looks like crap, then you can't back it up:

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

VA is definitely a marketing name.

EDIT:
Xbox also has a dedicated block for decompression.

Inside Xbox Series X: the full specs

This is it. After months of teaser trailers, blog posts and even the occasional leak, we can finally reveal firm, hard …

www.eurogamer.net

Yes its the small part of a cpu core they claim, is that a best case figure?

Also again latency from going to the cpu could be vast compared to sonys method all in the io block.

 

[Orky]

People discussing Dirt 5, while it's a decent game that looks like shit, I'm anticipating this masterpiece (GT7). This is the level of gameplay graphics we're looking for not that blurry mess.

that’s not an ingame shot. Can you show me an ingame show with HUD?

do you know what „bullshots“ are?

 

[Mr Moose]

I actually don't own a hat, never need one

Damn, I was hoping for something like this

Or this

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Ok, I have to weigh in here. I'm getting a PS5..I haven't made a secret of that. I've stuck with Sony for almost all of my console gaming. But I want to weigh in here on the loading times and this argument.

11-15 seconds or so loading time IS FUCKING FAST! PERIOD. It's a HUGE jump over current gen. I don't care if the PS5 loads everything in 1 second by comparison, the 11 seconds or so for XSX is STILL FAST.

So we don't know right now any comparison and which box will load what faster, but it's a good bet that the PS5 likely will be faster...MAYBE by 2x...we just don't know. Even if that's the case, it doesn't take away from the XSX being damn fast and a huge jump for gamers.

So until we have comparisons for each box loading the same game and want to inanely argue why whatever difference there is is universe shattering and makes the other side stupid (sarcasm, folks!) let's just chilly-chill a bit. Both machines are going to be a quantum leap ahead of what we've all been using. Acting like 10-15 seconds load time is SLOW, is just disingenuous. Yes, yes, I know...if the PS5 is 5 seconds then it's much faster....but seriously? Still doesn't make 10-15 seconds SLOW. And that's IF there's that kind of difference between the PS5 and XSX.

So, short version- the XSX is loading things GODDAMN FAST. It's fast. Period. Now we want to see MORE of that and with different scenarios (what about "native" XSX games, for example?) and then we also want to see what the PS5 does with any 'quick resume' that may or may not be supported (we don't know officially) and with loading games from the main UI. But that's it.

Agree 100% and, to piggy back on what you're saying, loading times is a priority for some people.

Others, not so much. I'd rather see a TLOU or Uncharted 3 level game that loads for 30 seconds than a worse game loading in 2 seconds. Getting fast loading times as a priority could mean (it's not definite) that other things are not prioritized. Indie games will load way faster than massive, cinamatic games. That's to be expected.

 

[Kagey K]

We will see, I believe otherwise. As I understand it, MS marketing aside, the XVA isn’t nearly as efficient at eliminating bottlenecks as the PS5 IO so I expect to see a marked difference between the two.

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Let me hear about those sweet, sweet load times.

You'll notice a pretty sizable performance increase on both consoles, especially with load times. Getting into gameplay has never been faster, even with large library sizes! Both the new Xbox and PlayStation consoles are on par with each other when it comes to load times.

This is a game know for hefty load times (especially if you had a lot of DLC) so I'm surprise Harmonix came out and said this so bluntly.

 

[geordiemp]

It's possible! I don't need to be proven to that the PS5 is a fantastic piece of kit. I still maintain games will likely have parity between both systems.

The advantages of extra tflops or using the SSD for extra textures is nice on paper but may not translate into much in reality.



You wound me, fishy.

But I take your point and retreat to the Xbox safe space thread awaiting the return of our new champion Bo.



Apparently!

All I said was the 15 second thing was FUD, and, seeing the game has been further optimised since then, I think we should wait and see.

I think the opposite, I think Ps5 is punching above what we expected wih 4k30 and ray tracing or a performance mode, and quite frankly I expected XSX to be a little more until I saw the architecture, and the games we see XSX run is not really surprising to me but its only a few games so far so lets wait some more.

How games run is that matters.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

that’s not an ingame shot. Can you show me an ingame show with HUD?

do you know what „bullshots“ are?

Your post.

 

[jasondefaoite]

and I believe otherwise. We’ve seen the leaked Boot time for PS5, if it’s indeed true then XSX would actually boot faster than PS5.
Also, if the PS5 is so much faster with everything why not show us the UI? Or show us loading a game from the UI? Why only show ingame respawns or ingame loading screens?

Not talking about the size now? I guess the PS5 must be smaller than you imagine ... given you thought that render was edited and it should appear much much larger than shown.

 

[Md Ray]

that’s not an ingame shot. Can you show me an ingame show with HUD?

do you know what „bullshots“ are?

Those are in-game, in engine, running in real-time on real PS5 hardware shots.

 

[azertydu91]

Ok, I have to weigh in here. I'm getting a PS5..I haven't made a secret of that. I've stuck with Sony for almost all of my console gaming. But I want to weigh in here on the loading times and this argument.

11-15 seconds or so loading time IS FUCKING FAST! PERIOD. It's a HUGE jump over current gen. I don't care if the PS5 loads everything in 1 second by comparison, the 11 seconds or so for XSX is STILL FAST.

So we don't know right now any comparison and which box will load what faster, but it's a good bet that the PS5 likely will be faster...MAYBE by 2x...we just don't know. Even if that's the case, it doesn't take away from the XSX being damn fast and a huge jump for gamers.

So until we have comparisons for each box loading the same game and want to inanely argue why whatever difference there is is universe shattering and makes the other side stupid (sarcasm, folks!) let's just chilly-chill a bit. Both machines are going to be a quantum leap ahead of what we've all been using. Acting like 10-15 seconds load time is SLOW, is just disingenuous. Yes, yes, I know...if the PS5 is 5 seconds then it's much faster....but seriously? Still doesn't make 10-15 seconds SLOW. And that's IF there's that kind of difference between the PS5 and XSX.

So, short version- the XSX is loading things GODDAMN FAST. It's fast. Period. Now we want to see MORE of that and with different scenarios (what about "native" XSX games, for example?) and then we also want to see what the PS5 does with any 'quick resume' that may or may not be supported (we don't know officially) and with loading games from the main UI. But that's it.

Sure it is fast and even if Dirt 5 is loading slower than other games, first who cares? And second how is it MS fault?
But people were sold on instant loading so much that 15 sec seems to them like an eternity when it is in fact quite fast.
Remember when people praised GOT for its loading times ? it was at worst about 10 sec, and now 15 sec is outrageously long ?
Maybe we should stop acting like little brat not capable of enjoying nice things.

And to use it tu fuel console wars is stupid, just like people bitching about a few sec loading times on other games.

 

[geordiemp]

Yeah, but you can say the same about the XSX, and that is loading in 15sec. That should also just be much faster.

Good point on Yakuza/Dirt5, two possibilities. Microsoft doesn't let them talk about it, or they didn't find it newsworthy. Make of that what you will.


I also think the IO of PS5 is legit. But we now the raw and compressed speeds of both SSD's. We know that there isn't a 7x difference. So that's why the PS5 track loading won't be in 2sec, if the same track takes 15sec on the XSX.

Its not just the SSD speed, there is another 4 or 5 factors. Lets wait and see what becomes of MS direct storage, I honestly dont think its ready yet.

Its hard to seperate the blurb from reality, Direct storage velocity architecture, but I do think a whole performant IO system to let the SSD shine is not an easy task, especially for windows.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

Ok, I have to weigh in here. I'm getting a PS5..I haven't made a secret of that. I've stuck with Sony for almost all of my console gaming. But I want to weigh in here on the loading times and this argument.

11-15 seconds or so loading time IS FUCKING FAST! PERIOD. It's a HUGE jump over current gen. I don't care if the PS5 loads everything in 1 second by comparison, the 11 seconds or so for XSX is STILL FAST.

So we don't know right now any comparison and which box will load what faster, but it's a good bet that the PS5 likely will be faster...MAYBE by 2x...we just don't know. Even if that's the case, it doesn't take away from the XSX being damn fast and a huge jump for gamers.

So until we have comparisons for each box loading the same game and want to inanely argue why whatever difference there is is universe shattering and makes the other side stupid (sarcasm, folks!) let's just chilly-chill a bit. Both machines are going to be a quantum leap ahead of what we've all been using. Acting like 10-15 seconds load time is SLOW, is just disingenuous. Yes, yes, I know...if the PS5 is 5 seconds then it's much faster....but seriously? Still doesn't make 10-15 seconds SLOW. And that's IF there's that kind of difference between the PS5 and XSX.

So, short version- the XSX is loading things GODDAMN FAST. It's fast. Period. Now we want to see MORE of that and with different scenarios (what about "native" XSX games, for example?) and then we also want to see what the PS5 does with any 'quick resume' that may or may not be supported (we don't know officially) and with loading games from the main UI. But that's it.

Fast.
You can achieve faster load times on pc with normal Sata SSDs. All this velocity talk is marketing bullshit.

 

[Bojanglez]

They really are pumping out these aren't they, wish we could of had that ps5 breakdown, oh well.

They're probably contractually obliged to review every game MS gives them.

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

I think the opposite, I think Ps5 is punching above what we expected wih 4k30 and ray tracing or a performance mode, and quite frankly I expected XSX to be a little more until I saw the architecture, and the games we see XSX run is not really surprising to me but its only a few games so far so lets wait some more.

How games run is that matters.

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here, you disagree on the idea of parity between the consoles but think it's ultimately too early to judge?

XsX hasn't unveiled any heavy hitters running on the console, similarly PS5 hasn't been tested by anyone who could have the mental capacity to notice a framerate drop or screen tearing.

I dunno about you but I'm excited about next gen and I think it's fair to say that, either way, the gap between the competition has never been narrower.

 

[Sinthor]

Fast.
You can achieve faster load times on pc with normal Sata SSDs. All this velocity talk is marketing bullshit.

Please point me to videos of PC's loading these games faster than we've seen so far from XSX and PS5. Seriously...I'd like to see it. I've never heard of such things, other than having games directly loaded into RAM and running them from there.

I get that PC's are fast, but....I just haven't seen THIS kind of fast out of a PC.

 

[Riky]

Its not a problem or unimpressive on its own. In isolation this would be impressive, its just PS5 has gone to unthinkable levels to make the io breakthrough they have.

Ita natural to compare consoles vs each other so when you do that suddenly the series x loading isn't that impressive at all, for what next gen loading will be.

It'd be the same if we saw something great on PS5 and thought it was impressive only to see it be blown out the water by xbox, suddenly what they showed would be as impressive compared to the competition.

DF say that Yakuza loads in 2 seconds..... So if PS5 loads it in one was it worth the work they put into it still?

Until we see the same game on each we're still in the dark really, but that goes for performance too. With a better Gpu faster CPU and more memory bandwidth are Series X games going to run at higher settings, frame rates or resolutions, if so that's worth the extra few seconds loading in my book once I'm playing the game.

 

[azertydu91]

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here, you disagree on the idea of parity between the consoles but think it's ultimately too early to judge?

XsX hasn't unveiled any heavy hitters running on the console, similarly PS5 hasn't been tested by anyone who could have the mental capacity to notice a framerate drop or screen tearing.

I dunno about you but I'm excited about next gen and I think it's fair to say that, either way, the gap between the competition has never been narrower.

So Xbox hasn't shown gameplay and playstation haven't shown games and gameplay to people with eyes and brain?
Is that your point? That the people that played next gen games on Ps5 can't tell anything bad about it because they are incapable?Maybe watch the gameplay that are online?
Because what you are saying is one didn't show anything and the other hasn't been thoroughly tested ?
And somehow that is similar to you?
Let me make a analogy ...If I hesitate between 2 girls, one that sent me lingerie pics but not her lingerie and the other that sent me pics of clothes on mannequins telling they should represent what she looks like then sending the lingerie.
And somehow you trust the second over the frst one?

 

[geordiemp]

DF say that Yakuza loads in 2 seconds..... So if PS5 loads it in one was it worth the work they put into it still?

Until we see the same game on each we're still in the dark really, but that goes for performance too. With a better Gpu faster CPU and more memory bandwidth are Series X games going to run at higher settings, frame rates or resolutions, if so that's worth the extra few seconds loading in my book once I'm playing the game.

Yakuuza stable 60 FPS mode was 1080p on XSX.

I think Ps5 will run it better but thats just my opinion from seeing sony first party and expecting more ps5 surprises (but if you read patents they should not be), lets wait and see.

Once games are seen running, people will apprecaite cache speeds and cache bandwidths allot more is my prediction.

 

[GreyHand23]

Yakuza is horribly optimized. It's not a good benchmark of what either system can do.

 

[scie]

Talking about loading time within seconds for being to long... You guys are hilarious Have you ever played Warlords on an Amiga 500? 20+ minutes loading screen (static image)! And I played a heck out of this game

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

So Xbox hasn't shown gameplay and playstation haven't shown games and gameplay to people with eyes and brain?
Is that your point? That the people that played next gen games on Ps5 can't tell anything bad about it because they are incapable?Maybe watch the gameplay that are online?
Because what you are saying is one didn't show anything and the other hasn't been thoroughly tested ?
And somehow that is similar to you?
Let me make a analogy ...If I hesitate between 2 girls, one that sent me lingerie pics but not her lingerie and the other that sent me pics of clothes on mannequins telling they should represent what she looks like then sending the lingerie.
And somehow you trust the second over the frst one?

I've read this like five times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say.

Yakuuza stable 60 FPS mode was 1080p on XSX.

I think Ps5 will run it better but thats just my opinion from seeing sony first party and expecting more ps5 surprises (but if you read patents they should not be), lets wait and see.

It was almost entirely 60fps at 1440p, Tom emphasised this multiple times in the video and he had to use specific abilities just to get a drop.

I don't think Dragon Engine is a good barometer for hardware performance overall because it's an absolute hog. Just look at this;

I expect parity for the game, in any case, particularly as Sega prioritized (and were paid by) Xbox

 

[Riky]

Yakuuza stable 60 FPS mode was 1080p on XSX.

I think Ps5 will run it better but thats just my opinion from seeing sony first party and expecting more ps5 surprises (but if you read patents they should not be), lets wait and see.

Once games are seen running, people will apprecaite cache speeds and cache bandwidths allot more is my prediction.

What you "think" isn't concrete evidence to me, neither is your "prediction" it's about as valuable as my prediction.

 

[Gudji]

No load times on PS5 miles morales:

" The entire game is load-time free, even if you fast travel. There's just a momentary flash, and you are back into the action."

 

[azertydu91]

I've read this like five times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say.

That explains a lot.

 

[Mr Moose]

I've read this like five times and I still have no idea what you're trying to say.



It was almost entirely 60fps at 1440p, Tom emphasised this multiple times in the video and he had to use specific abilities just to get a drop.

I don't think Dragon Engine is a good barometer for hardware performance overall because it's an absolute hog. Just look at this;

I expect parity for the game, in any case, particularly as Sega prioritized (and were paid by) Xbox

It has some PS3 textures too, dunno wtf is going on with that game. I'll probably skip it because of the change to turn based stuff.

 

[Thirty7ven]

and I believe otherwise. We’ve seen the leaked Boot time for PS5, if it’s indeed true then XSX would actually boot faster than PS5.
Also, if the PS5 is so much faster with everything why not show us the UI? Or show us loading a game from the UI? Why only show ingame respawns or ingame loading screens?

You’re probably a week away from changing your tune to “Don’t care about an extra ten seconds anyway “

 

[danielJackson]

and I believe otherwise. We’ve seen the leaked Boot time for PS5, if it’s indeed true then XSX would actually boot faster than PS5.
Also, if the PS5 is so much faster with everything why not show us the UI? Or show us loading a game from the UI? Why only show ingame respawns or ingame loading screens?

What is wrong with you, need some help?

Like you cant seriously claim what you say?

Even 5 year old should understand that the reason why they havent shown it yet is that they dont want or need to show every new thing/detail at once.

Really sad if you seriously cant imagine any other reason than "ps5 must be fucking slow because they dont show it"

Stop trolling mmmkayy

 

[geordiemp]

What you "think" isn't concrete evidence to me, neither is your "prediction" it's about as valuable as my prediction.

Thats true, but I was only responding to posts thinking one console will out perform the other, they wont. Sony titles have outperformed ahead of what 3rd party have shown, but thats not a fair comparison.

 

[Codexer]

 

[zubairali2]

No load times on PS5 miles morales:

" The entire game is load-time free, even if you fast travel. There's just a momentary flash, and you are back into the action."

greatwhiteshark would be pissed lol

 

[Neko Mimi Mode]

That explains a lot.

Writing wall of text paragraphs with poor sentence structure, while attempting to use bizarre underwear pic analogies, when discussing video game console performance confuses people and makes you look weird. Who'd have guessed?

 

[demigod]

greatwhiteshark would be pissed lol

Did he say something about it?

 

[azertydu91]

Writing wall of text paragraphs with poor sentence structure, while attempting to use bizarre underwear pic analogies, when discussing video game console performance confuses people and makes you look weird. Who'd have guessed?

Not being able to understand a simple analogy about your double standards and lack of logic make you look dumb ...Who would've thought ?
Now try to understand why you deemed people that played next gen games on ps5 "don't have the mental capacity to notice a framerate drop or screen tearing".
Just think about it or maybe you don't have the mental capacity to do so ?Does it help you understand how condescending you were in your post ?

 

[martino]

So Xbox hasn't shown gameplay and playstation haven't shown games and gameplay to people with eyes and brain?
Is that your point? That the people that played next gen games on Ps5 can't tell anything bad about it because they are incapable?Maybe watch the gameplay that are online?
Because what you are saying is one didn't show anything and the other hasn't been thoroughly tested ?
And somehow that is similar to you?
Let me make a analogy ...If I hesitate between 2 girls, one that sent me lingerie pics but not her lingerie and the other that sent me pics of clothes on mannequins telling they should represent what she looks like then sending the lingerie.
And somehow you trust the second over the frst one?

you know that in your analogy ,in ms case, the girl send herself in big surprise package saying the lingerie will come later.
it's why not that much people are surpised those guys fuck the girl and have little interest to lingerie of the other one

 

[azertydu91]

you know that in your analogy ,in ms case, the girl send herself in big surprise package saying the lingerie will come later.
it's why not that much people are surpised those guys fuck the girl instead of smelling lingerie

Except that she doesn't do anything besides foreplay in videos with others and promising to do more with you if you want to deepend the analogy.Then I guess the sony girl is sending sextapes and telling you she'll do that to you in that case.