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[Metroiddarks]

So xsx drops to 1080p for a locked 60 in yakuza 7. Damn

Based on DF:

1080p/60 (High FPS)
1440p/60 (Normal)
4k/30 (High Resolution)

And all these with zero raytracing

We all know that console can do more than that but I mean looks like the Xbox marketing team
made a mistake choosing this game and dirt5 to show the graphic power of its console.

Is like if PS5 choosing Bugsnax yes I know that game will be the GotY but not for its graphics.

 

[Agnostic2020]

And there will be parity with the PS5 version. People in here really shouldn't try to console war with Dragon Engine.

After hearing how superior xsx and how weak ps5 is for month and months from few hardcore xbox fans, a dose of reality was needed for them .and yakuza and dirt5 were just that. And yes ofcourse they will be similar.

 

[RyanEvans21]

We all know that console can do more than that but I mean looks like the Xbox marketing team
made a mistake choosing this game and dirt5 to show the graphic power of its console.

Is like if PS5 choosing Bugsnax yes I know that game will be the GotY but not for its graphics.

You forgot Old Games

 

[Zadom]

Man, the new lighting system is gorgeous. Going back to the Global Illumination that the 360 games had.

No HUD in those shots. According to Orky those are “bullshots”.

I like them though.

 

[Metroiddarks]

You forgot Old Games

Yes but I can understand that a little more for use BC a main attractive but man really
Xbox should knows that Yakuza will runs very bad doesn't matter what that is why you
choose a second or first party to show but well we know how looks Halo.

 

[marvifrom]

People discussing Dirt 5, while it's a decent game that looks like shit, I'm anticipating this masterpiece (GT7). This is the level of gameplay graphics we're looking for not that blurry mess.

WHOA!

 

[smallpotatosan]

3 modes of yakuza 7 on xsx :

The difference is so visible damn

well, we have the same game running on ps5.



Edit. by the look of it, i think it is dynamic 4k/60. the internal res is around 1440p i feel. i didn't do the pixel count

 

[Nikana]

No HUD in those shots. According to Orky those are “bullshots”.

I like them though.

The HUD in Gears is constantly not on screen. It fades in and out all the time. Those are in game shots.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

After hearing how superior xsx and how weak ps5 is for month and months from few hardcore xbox fans, a dose of reality was needed for them .and yakuza and dirt5 were just that. And yes ofcourse they will be similar.

Xbox fans live rent free in your head apparently.

 

[RyanEvans21]

The HUD in Gears is constantly not on screen. It fades in and out all the time. Those are in game shots.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

3 modes of yakuza 7 on xsx :

The difference is so visible damn

I'm sorry though, but Yakuza graphics look like shit. I think they are using 1080p assets, they're very current gen up close, can't even get to the level of other crossgens. I remember it being labeled as not 4K in the Xbox official website, so it just got upscaled and called it a day.

 

[Nikana]

apparently!

 

[Agnostic2020]

Xbox fans live rent free in your head apparently.

No . But seeing someone who was screaming wrong bullshit to be wrong is enjoyable. Oh and thats not all .soon more shocking info will be unveiled about the performances which all be nice to see.

that 40 50 fps advantage for " gpu math alone " lol, will soon be unveiled(to be pure bs)

 

[Md Ray]

a remaster of a 2 generation old game

For the umpteenth time, Bertha, it's a remake!

 

[Venom Snake]

Man what's wrong with you, I made those screenshots out of the video! Here:

And no, it's not silly. You know what is silly? Saying Dirt 5 looks good while it looks like crap, then you can't back it up:

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

Alright I'll help you.... Air is often used in electronics to cool down components ...Well that's about it as to my knowledge.If you need more info you'll probably need to ask a doctorate here.

But more seriously was there a specification in your degree (I'm not familiar with US/Uk degree)?

Physics Engineering Masters degree
I studied Chemistry for a couple years before until I was finally able to change my studies to what I really loved.

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Hey, stop it.

Bo has NEVER seen screen tearing on his PS4. NEVER. I mean, he read about it a few times but thought that it was an Xbox One thing.

Obviously if he hasn't seen it on the PS4, why would it be on the superior PS5?

But on the low, this game looks awful as shit, I don't know why it's being allowed to be shown on the XSX.

 

[azertydu91]

Physics Engineering Masters degree
I studied Chemistry for a couple years before until I was finally able to change my studies to what I really loved.

Yeah I hated chemistry too that's why I went with electronic and mechanical engineering.I do realize now that it is different from what you studied , I dunno why I mixed the two.
Well congratulations it's definitely not the easiest cursus.

 

[RyanEvans21]

Craig Sakai

 

[sandkiller]

time to bulk up with some BK burgers!

Imagine spending 499$ on burgers and not getting a ps5

 

[MastaKiiLA]

I totally see this game becoming a free game of the month on PS Plus sometime in 2021!

I've said this before, as well, but I keep holding out hope that we get some new footage soon, and it blows everyone's tits off looking like a next-gen Twisted Metal/Rocket League mash-up. The seeming multiplayer aspects of it would definitely benefit from a PS+ deal.

 

[ResilientBanana]

But XSX was suppose to be lightyears ahead of everything especially 3rd party games

Isn't that ultimately up to the developer to take advantage of each of the respective consoles technology? Between Dirt and Yakuza, I think they will look like equal amounts of shit on both.

 

[azertydu91]

Imagine spending 499$ on burgers and not getting a ps5

Well if it was done in a few sitting the diarrhea is well worth it, I mean if you swallowed a toy as a child it should come out, as well as any bacteria, liquid and maybe some organs too.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

crazy miles morales suit

Daft Miles. I'm loving the media dump on this game. I need video of fidelity mode ASAP.

 

[Agnostic2020]

I love Craig sakai

 

[saintjules]

No . But seeing someone who was screaming wrong bullshit to be wrong is enjoyable. Oh and thats not all .soon more shocking info will be unveiled about the performances which all be nice to see.

that 40 50 fps advantage for " gpu math alone " lol, will soon be unveiled(to be pure bs)

The last line is Dealer's favorite quote to say over, and over, and over, and over.

Spoiler

and over, and over, and over

 

[saintjules]

Is there a direct link for the HQ images of MM? I have the Game Informer issue, but those don't seem to appear without the text?

 

[zubairali2]

 

[Felessan]

11-15 seconds or so loading time IS FUCKING FAST! PERIOD. It's a HUGE jump over current gen. I don't care if the PS5 loads everything in 1 second by comparison, the 11 seconds or so for XSX is STILL FAST.

It's still slow, especially compared to what competitor offers.
For you it may be not a big deal and 15 sec is "fast", especially compared to previous gen. For some others it still 15 second of wasted life looking at pointless screensaver every time game loads, when they prefer it to be zero, and 15 sec in such context are still uncomfortably slow.

You shouldn't push your standard of what is "good enough" baseline of load time to others, they might have completely different perception of it.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

But XSX was suppose to be lightyears ahead of everything especially 3rd party games

Not even 3rd party are looking good on XSX, actually Yakuza and Dirt 5 are looking very bad. Here is Hitman 3 on PS5:

Even a shitty game like Avengers looks much more better, like a gen ahead:

The margin is already massive between the two, let's wait for the rest. Probably that's why they are so hesitant with their narratives, one day it's the most powerful console, another day it's the most powerful xbox. One day 12TF is the best, another day teraflops aren't good measurements.

So many contradictions, it's a result of the lack of confidence.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Imagine spending 499$ on burgers and not getting a ps5

Imagine the medical bills afterwards.

 

[Zadom]

The HUD in Gears is constantly not on screen. It fades in and out all the time. Those are in game shots.

I misunderstand. I believe they are but Orky probably doesn’t. He demands a hud.

 

[Nikana]

I misunderstand. I believe they are but Orky probably doesn’t. He demands a hud.

CLearly I made as ass of myself inserting myself into a joke I didn't understand.

 

[existensmaximum]

3 modes of yakuza 7 on xsx :

The difference is so visible damn

Yikes, maybe that's just a bad example but damn, all three shots really look amazingly bad. Extremely outdated character model (as well as the animation, from what I've seen so far)

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

I posted this on the last page but may have gone overlooked so I'll repost it.

Rock Band 4 and Next-Gen Consoles

Hey Rock Banderinos, We’ve got some good news to share, news that you’ve been patiently waiting a while to hear. You may have heard that some new consoles are coming out this November, about a month from now in fact, and with them comes some new backwards compatibility features. To get right to the

www.harmonixmusic.com

This is a game know for hefty load times (especially if you had a lot of DLC) so I'm surprise Harmonix came out and said this so bluntly.

Is this just a bc game then? So not code change, if so maybe without it the ssd hit a hard limit of what thwy can do alone without utilising the hardware further? Like when we see a weak ssd and a faster one being similar?

Either way, we want to see these comparisons.

If its had a code change PS5 should be ahead.

No load times on PS5 miles morales:

" The entire game is load-time free, even if you fast travel. There's just a momentary flash, and you are back into the action."

This sounds like what we expect to see on all PS5 titles.

Cerny mentioned the only thing devs have to do, here it is....

 

[Nowcry]

Not even 3rd party are looking good on XSX, actually Yakuza and Dirt 5 are looking very bad. Here is Hitman 3 on PS5:





Even a shitty game like Avengers looks much more better, like a gen ahead:





The margin is already massive between the two, let's wait for the rest. Probably that's why the are so hesitant with their narratives, one day it's the most powerful console, another day it's the most powerful xbox. One day 12TF is the best, another day teraflops aren't good measurements.

So many contradictions, it's a results of lack of confidence.

The Tflops are useless, it is necessary to evaluate how the system works as a whole.

8 DCU-16 CU hanging from the same RDNA2 branch is not a good deal.

AMD doesn't have any GPUs for now (leaked) RDNA2 has more than 5 DCUs hanging from the same L1. Although they have added L0 it does not solve it or AMD would have put more DCUs hanging. In fact 80 Cu is 2 times 40 CU and never exceeds 5 DCU per branch.

For me, taking advantage of those DCUs above 10 is requiring a low level programming with great care with caches. It's a headache.

However, it is only a speculation of mine, although with foundation.

TFlops are of no use if there is no control and there are no Hits in the caches, since they will remain waiting most of the time. That is why it is necessary to see how the complete system performs.

 

[JTCx]

Not even 3rd party are looking good on XSX, actually Yakuza and Dirt 5 are looking very bad. Here is Hitman 3 on PS5:

Even a shitty game like Avengers looks much more better, like a gen ahead:

The margin is already massive between the two, let's wait for the rest. Probably that's why the are so hesitant with their narratives, one day it's the most powerful console, another day it's the most powerful xbox. One day 12TF is the best, another day teraflops aren't good measurements.

So many contradictions, it's a results of lack of confidence.

I expect the PS5 version to look like a ps1 game because theres suppose to be a night/day difference

 

[LivingD3AD]

Amazing RayTraced reflections

 

[Agnostic2020]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years .

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

 

[jose4gg]

Is this just a bc game then? So not code change, if so maybe without it the ssd hit a hard limit of what thwy can do alone without utilising the hardware further? Like when we see a weak ssd and a faster one being similar?

Either way, we want to see these comparisons.

If its had a code change PS5 should be ahead.



This sounds like what we expect to see on all PS5 titles.

Cerny mentioned the only thing devs have to do, here it is....

The bible of the PS5 keeps giving and giving...

 

[azertydu91]

CLearly I made as ass of myself inserting myself into a joke I didn't understand.

When you feel sad I got the perfect remedy for you if you want.

Always remember that you are not Roberto Serrano.....If that didn't cheer you up I don't know what will.

Unless you are Roberto Serrano...............I'm starting to be suspicious.

 

[MasterCornholio]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years . Yikesss

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

Microsoft said the hardware was capable of 12TFs of ray tracing.

So what's going on?

I can understand that dev tools might make it difficult but to not allow any ray tracing at all?

Anyone have an idea if what's happening? Besides dev kits that is.

Microsoft: Xbox Series X Performance Is 25+ TFLOPs when Ray Tracing; I/O Rate Equal to 13 Zen 2 Cores

Microsoft's Andrew Goossen said Xbox Series X performance is 25+ TFLOPs when raytracing. The IO rate is equal to a PC with 13 Zen 2 cores.

wccftech.com

Without hardware acceleration, this work could have been done in the shaders but would have consumed over 13 TFLOPs alone. For the Xbox Series X, this work is offloaded onto dedicated hardware and the shader can continue to run in parallel with full performance. In other words, Series X can effectively tap the equivalent of well over 25 TFLOPs of performance while ray tracing.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years . Yikesss

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

Spencer: Ray Tracing Support Has Been Spotty so Far; 8K Is Years Away, If Ever, from Being Standard

Phil Spencer admitted that ray tracing support in games has been spotty so far, and 8K gaming as a standard is years away (if it ever happens)

wccftech.com

 

[J_Gamer.exe]

The bible of the PS5 keeps giving and giving...

Yes, there all along and tbf has been mentioned many times on here but there it is again.

Thats how simple it is for devs to utilise PS5 io speed.

No messing with coding for direct storage and SFS etc.

The PS5 way..... I want that data... and I want it there... DONE.

 

[smallpotatosan]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years .

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

partially

 

[Zadom]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years .

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

He says dev tools- at least partially. Does that mean it could also be more than just dev tools? Like hardware?

 

[azertydu91]

Microsoft said the hardware was capable of 12TFs of ray tracing.

So what's going on?

I can understand that dev tools might make it difficult but to not allow any ray tracing at all?

Anyone have an idea if what's happening? Besides dev kits that is.

With its Velocity architecture the Xbox is now so fast that it come out before being ready.

And more seriously they could be a bit behind on the API but it doesn't mean much in medium/long term.
Could be linked to Covid , I know it's an easy excuse, but if they were a bit late it certainly didn't help.

 

[Gudji]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years .

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

Yeah, not even Devil May Cry 5 Special Edtion will have ray tracing at launch on XSX, it will come later with a patch. PS5 already has ray tracing, sony did their homework.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

John from DF says zero games will have raytracing at launch on xsx. What the actual fuck. After talking about it for 2 years .

All those talks about ps5 being rdna 1.5 and xsx being true rdna 2 is hilarious now. Karma

To follow up on this:

 

[MasterCornholio]

The PS5 way..... I want that data... and I want it there... DONE.

Cerny delivery system.

I hope it really is that easy because that's the main issue when it comes to exotic hardware. Like how some developers didn't want to take advantage of the PS3s hardware because it was a pain to develop for.