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Three Jackdaws
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Been waiting all dam day for this lol
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Been waiting all dam day for this lol
sircaw
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what are we meant to be expecting in this video if i may ask?
THEAP99
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Unofficial emulation does not disregard exclusivity.
By-mission
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A little SAD about this ...
How do we get past the narrative that the S series would push PS5 to "look Ubsoft make shit an update for PS5 and we have a small victory for the most powerful console in the world ...
...even if it is in 1080p...
How do we get past the narrative that the S series would push PS5 to "look Ubsoft make shit an update for PS5 and we have a small victory for the most powerful console in the world ...
...even if it is in 1080p...
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Neo Blaster
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Don't forget PS5 already has the best RT implementation on consoles to date with MM, kudos to Insomniac, these guys are incredibly talented.
Anyway only the time will be explain this.
Well, trust in engineers and professionals, I guess they thought in bottlenecks before you. I´m repeating all the time, to judge a system you need to know the system in deep.
Not any system gets the maximum performance ever but I´m pretty sure that Xbox has a lot to say and we can´t put in doubt this only for a few shitty games with non elite devs.
I think a lot of people here overvalue developers and a lot of them aren't as smart as they think. They make a lot of mistakes.
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Neo Blaster
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And here I am scratching my head trying to listen to anything coming from my PS5 and getting nothing. Gosh, I don't even know what coil whine sounds like and I'm afraid to look for it, cause if I find out I won't be able to 'unhear' it.
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Neo Blaster
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So, DF's final verdict is that PS5's is still the best version and runs at a higher res than XSX's.
Any comments,
Riky
?With less consistent framerate in PS5So, DF's final verdict is that PS5's is still the best version and runs at a higher res than XSX's.
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Three Jackdaws
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Said he was going to go through the PS5 hardware like the additional RAM, the ram reserve for the operating system as well as CPU reserve. And a whole bunch of other stuff which we don’t know.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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PaintTinJr
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I don't get why you would post that image in a positive light for XsX and negative for PS5 - unless it has been edited - because the right hand graph shows that the only console in that clip to drop to 30fps(33.3ms frame time) was the XsX (if I'm not mistaken) and shows a bigger frustum setup(more rendering work) on the PS5 despite the cropped images, which is why the boats are in different positions in the XsX and XsS cropped images, where the boat occludes more of the tree model (probably culling at least 1k-10k more polygons from the render pipeline per frame than on PS5), and the early dip by the XsX to 30fps - the odd straight down green line showing the drop in frame-rate that either pre-triggers aggressive dynamic resolution changes on the XsX just before the minor dip in frame-rate on the PS5 begins.
If anything, it is interesting how well the PS5 version holds its frame-time while only just missing the frame-time. That looks suspect IMO, as we would expect it to drop, then drop, then level off then rise, then rise, or do what is seen with the XsX situation when it goes to 33.3ms - which IMO is almost certainly a pre-emptive drop of resolution to avoid hitting a bottleneck and the associated lag in recovering from the rendering bottleneck.
Makes you wonder if the parity clause - which seems to be in effect judging by the patching - is actually the real culprit for the PS5 missing its frame-times through that section.
edit: typo
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THE:MILKMAN
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The additional 512MB DDR4 RAM we already know is SSD controller cache. There is just this single DDR4 chip on the board.
FrankWza
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The pulse are better than golds, and they as well as the platinum offer full feature set with PS5 which is really convenient. If you can get a nice comfortable fit, they’re pretty good bang for buck.
The arctis 1 as well as the Sony headsets speak to the price of the 7 being too high. I think the driver size is what hurts the arctis and pulse vs the platinum.
I have the Penrose now so I’m hoping this solves the wireless headset situation. Otherwise I’ll go wired or try those 1s and see if they fit me better than the others And get me by until something better comes along.
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dimaveshkin
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That's lame, i have seen a lot of similar reports so it will be kinda lottery (if I even have a change to get new one in a reasonable time). Gotta get used to it and hope for some kind of OS update that can adjust it, i guess
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Three Jackdaws
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dimaveshkin
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draliko
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with steelseris dongle (so 1x wireless or 7x wireless) you only lose sidetone (while the 7p is instead full function comaptible, it depends if you use the headset also for xbox, otherwise no difference) , the fact is that wired is not as good as wireless, i did some test and the audio from the ds isn't as good as the one coming via wireless or via an ampli. The gold connected via 3.5 sounded worse than when using dongle.
SSfox
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PS5 will be the console of the super versions of multiplat during this gen, no matter how people are going to keep damage controle it's just the actual fact, wonder how many weeks/months/years XBox fanboys will recognize the facts (if they'll ever)
All this is smelling a new Xbox Series XX releasing next year
Gonna miss Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg retweeting and pin DF comparative
PaintTinJr
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I suspect you've already tried most things, but this was what I suggested in the PS5 coil whine thread, as things to try.
Neo Blaster
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On a cutscene? Because on gameplay both run locked, with PS5 having higher resolution.
FrankWza
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Side tone is a necessity for me and you lose chatmix with non PS headsets when using tempest.
I meant wired into the system or an amp. But, wired into headphones sound better with a portable amp in between with no hiss or feedback and fully functioning mic. It opens things up tremendously. Plus you get comfort because you can choose whatever fits you best. Pros and cons for going full wireless vs wired.
Audiophile Options For PS5 - Headphones, DAC, Etc.
So Platinum audio quality is better than pulse 3d right ? Also can u connect the platinum one to usb in front the console ? So directly wired to console instead of controller ? You have the dongle, and it only needs USB 2.0 connection for lossless 2.4GHz. So it's safe to say yes. PS4 is even...
If you want to see what’s been tested
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kyliethicc
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Where is this claimed extra DDR4 on the motherboard? We've seen the entire board and the only RAM is the 16 GB G6 and the 512 MB DDR4 for SSD.
Pretty sure this guy is confused / mistaken.
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Ptarmiganx2
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PS5 is running at higher resolution.
MilkyJoe
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THE:MILKMAN
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Not sure Leviathan is correct here. There is only one DDR RAM chip on the PS5 board that I can see but there is this SIE Southbridge (Marvell?) chip with an attached Winbond flash ROM chip?
Maybe these chips hold the OS and do the network/recording stuff?
If you look at the the PS4 Pro motherboard you will see two 512MB DDR3 RAM chips in clam shell connected to the similar Southbridge chip we now see in PS5.
Ptarmiganx2
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When you see evidence supporting it you refuse to acknowledge it. We are seeing evidence of bottlenecks in crossgen games. I’m sure you buy into velocity architecture exceeding the theoretical max of the hardware and delivering more throughput than custom hardware. And sorry, but I don’t trust in “true engineers and professionals”. They make mistakes as well. RROD ring a bell? Within my own field half the “experts“ are full of something, and it’s not unquestioned knowledge.
kyliethicc
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Yeah there is no extra DDR4 for OS. Thats just a tiny amount of serial flash (like 8 MB) and I think the PS4 had that too.
But there is just the 8 GDDR6 chips and the 1 DDR4 chip (part of the SSD) on the board.
Sony refusing to say how much of the 16 GB is given to devs makes me assume its less than the 13.5 on XSX. Probably 12 or 13 GB of the 16 is for games, while 3 or 4 is reserved for OS.
That secondary SIE chip is probably the same ARM based chip the PS4 has for downloads and other background OS stuff, etc.
Ptarmiganx2
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Look down...those fluffy things above the ship on PS5 version are called clouds. Clouds have this amazing ability to obscure stars. Or we can go with you logic and say the XSX couldn’t render the clouds.Not true
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Mr Moose
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Two of those pics are from a cutscene.Not true
The big circle is showing lack of illumination from the fire on the Series X.
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THE:MILKMAN
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Yeah agreed. I'm more confused with Leviathan talking about a second 512MB DDR4 chip when there are many PS5 board shots showing only the one DDR4 chip. Unless it resides under that SIE chip I posted (doubtful)?
Metroiddarks
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1.- Even if you search for bottleneck doesn't mean you can do much to fix something because is more than be smart, you depend of
your time and budget also matter when your bosses are more interested in the marketing numbers than a real world performance.
2.- How you can say trust in engineer and professionals and then non elite devs, if you really think the devs in Treyarch and from Ubisoft are not
some of the best you are very disconnected from the reality probably because that opinion is only based in "how many frames Y game can reach in some pc".
3.- Also PS5 has more to say remember Sony probably can do more granular improvements in its system than Xbox with the anchor of
the XSS, they showed it with the PS4 and PS3.
4.-I don't remember if you are the person who say to be a dev but as dev I will say, yes we are humans and as humans beings we make
mistakes but at least we can explain them in the vast majority of cases which is more than users who have as their best technical ability
the fact of opening an online account.
I found incredible the quantity of stupid things I read in this kind of forums and Twitter about the development of game or some technology,
I will put in a simple way, if you need DF explain you something then you are not ready to have debates about such technical topics.
I mean just a couple of months ago I have a discussion with some Xbox fanatics who say that the PS5s SSD was too fast than the GPU will be not
able to use it (I almost had a stroke that time) also against PS fanatics who want to compare the CPU performance adding the IO plus the CPU
of each console.
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Insane Metal
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Of course it is. It's the usual weekly Pinocchio Spencer bullshit talk (I stole this from a friend, sorry man)
You need check if it is actually really coil-whine or just a sticker rubbing against the fan
Probably best way is switch off the PS5, get the side panel off and blow air into the fan to spin it up or use a vacuum hoover pipe against it. I think
Loud PS5 Fan Noise Caused By A Sticker In The Console
A loose label was mistaken for a broken PS5 fan.screenrant.com
THEAP99 had this issue should check if it's just a stupid sticker! Lucky if it is then it's an easy fix
Good to know, and I damn sure don't hear that. Luckily my PS5 is quiet.
Almost like I thought a TV I just bought was broke, turns out a TV setting caused the entire right side to look like dead, damaged pixels.
Comcast has newer routers and cable boxes for newer internet speeds and better TVs. Don't think that TV setting worked with my current cable box.
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Three Jackdaws
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I'm asking him for clarification, I'll let you know.
dimaveshkin
Member
NIce idea, but it didn't work out
Bogroll
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I'd say so too. A 3600 with a 5700xt @ high settings never drops below 60fps@ 1440p on AC Valhalla. And yes PC's are different but as a rough guide 6 core 12 thread cpu and a 9.7 TF RDNA1 GPU v Series X specs.
Prrrrrrrrrh I dunno most would think X wouldn't need to drop that rez below 1440p.
Neko Mimi Mode
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danielJackson
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If you literally can hear nothing from your PS5(or any console), you should get your ears checked as precaution.
Seriously
I have seen 3 PS5 live so far and all have been the same: not loud, but audible from the other side of the room.
So if people cant hear theirs even from close = could be badly damaged hearing or really noisy apartment.
And no, none of modern consoles are literally silent. Even switch is audible from 2-3m or more away.
I could hear My PS5 even in rest mode with usb charging on (fan on low rpm)
I dont say PS5 is noisy, it is really quiet. But people with normal hearing should hear any console that have fan running.
With headphones I cant hear it, I could hear my ps4 pro so huge improvement
Insane Metal
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Wait, what the fuck?
1.- Even if you search for bottleneck doesn't mean you can do much to fix something because is more than be smart, you depend of
your time and budget also matter when your bosses are more interested in the marketing numbers than a real world performance.
2.- How you can say trust in engineer and professionals and then non elite devs, if you really think the devs in Treyarch and from Ubisoft are not
some of the best you are very disconnected from the reality probably because that opinion is only based in "how many frames Y game can reach in some pc".
3.- Also PS5 has more to say remember Sony probably can do more granular improvements in its system than Xbox with the anchor of
the XSS, they showed it with the PS4 and PS3.
4.-I don't remember if you are the person who say to be a dev but as dev I will say, yes we are humans and as humans beings we make
mistakes but at least we can explain them in the vast majority of cases which is more than users who have as their best technical ability
the fact of opening an online account.
I found incredible the quantity of stupid things I read in this kind of forums and Twitter about the development of game or some technology,
I will put in a simple way, if you need DF explain you something then you are not ready to have debates about such technical topics.
I mean just a couple of months ago I have a discussion with some Xbox fanatics who say that the PS5s SSD was too fast than the GPU will be not
able to use it (I almost had a stroke that time) also against PS fanatics who want to compare the CPU performance adding the IO plus the CPU
of each console.
What is your trainning in computers? Do you have any degree in computer science? Or you are only a amateur guy talking about his sofa?
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Metroiddarks
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Artificial Intelligence engineer and you?
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Three Jackdaws
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talk yo shit..!
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Three Jackdaws
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Mr Moose
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Did Gamespot say so? Or did a channel with 5K subscribers and fanboy Mr Keema say so?
Someone who isn't lazy look into it, please.
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