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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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GAF machine

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Impressive amount of information! Didn't know IBM was still improving on PowerPC and it's ISA, thought it was dead. Like you I too believe Sony is biding their time with the x86
I remember bro...


Thankfully PPC is still kicking and getting some t-l-c.
 
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I remember bro...


Thankfully PPC is still kicking and getting some tlc.
At the moment it looks like console future might on ARM.
Apple's M1 is really effective compared to x86.
 
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Xbox Series S - Fallout 4 mod list:

- 60FPS Series S/X
- Crafting Blur Removal
- Ironsight Blur Removal
- Disable God Rays
- Vivid Fallout - All In One
- TLS Realistic Gunfire
- Visible Galaxy 4k
- NAT Natural & Atmospheric Commonwealth

Currently just looking at mods that enhance the experience and the 60FPS one is by far the best one.

Also this Series S boots up in like 2 seconds. Then another 2 seconds to launch to main menu of Fallout 4 and another 2 seconds to load into the game.
 

Zadom

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Xbox Series S - Fallout 4 mod list:

- 60FPS Series S/X
- Crafting Blur Removal
- Ironsight Blur Removal
- Disable God Rays
- Vivid Fallout - All In One
- TLS Realistic Gunfire
- Visible Galaxy 4k
- NAT Natural & Atmospheric Commonwealth

Currently just looking at mods that enhance the experience and the 60FPS one is by far the best one.

Also this Series S boots up in like 2 seconds. Then another 2 seconds to launch to main menu of Fallout 4 and another 2 seconds to load into the game.
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Razvedka

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What makes you say it isn't good for the industry? Are you equally opposed to Sony and Nintendo buying studios?
The consolidation of assets/talent/IP/tech into a handful of massive entities, especially if they're into multiple markets (Google, Amazon, etc) isn't good. At all.

If it were Sony buying Sega or Bethesda I'd be saying the same thing. The petty brand politics don't concern me. Just tribalist noise.
 
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Derift

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Who is a monopoly? Isn't Sony the market leader? Most major companies aren't even for sale. Bethesda just happened to have a long standing working relationship with MS that went back to the original Xbox.
lol one game exclusive 14 years ago.... is this the "long-standing working relationship"...it doesn't matter who the market leader is, it's a bad practice and if sony/Nintendo started acting this way it would still be bad practice....
 
lol one game exclusive 14 years ago.... is this the "long-standing working relationship"...it doesn't matter who the market leader is, it's a bad practice and if sony/Nintendo started acting this way it would still be bad practice....
Why is it a bad practice? If those studios were in jeopardy of going under, being picked up by a larger more financially stability entity is a good thing. By the way Bethesda has done more than 1 game on Xbox 14 years ago. There are plenty of indie developers and studios. There is guy here who had a take on this I happen to agree with. He also knows a thing or two about the industry.

 

FranXico

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Who is a monopoly? Isn't Sony the market leader? Most major companies aren't even for sale. Bethesda just happened to have a long standing working relationship with MS that went back to the original Xbox.
There isn't a monopoly... yet.
But keep supporting the trillion dollar corporation buying out every other company, then smell the coffee when they are in complete control of both content and pricing.
 
Studios? This is third party multiplatform publishers, themselves owning several studios that they are talking about.

Do you think consolidation is good for the industry? Would you be happy with Sony buying Capcom or Square Enix?
I have all the consoles so I'll go where games I like are. If the choice is Capcom or Square going out of business or bring sold to Sony I'd prefer them be sold to Sony.

There isn't a monopoly... yet.
But keep supporting the trillion dollar corporation buying out every other company, then smell the coffee when they are in complete control of both content and pricing.
Sounds pretty unlikely. If MS buys out Sony you might be on to something though. The narrative seems to be changing. For the longest time there was the question of when MS would drop out of the business now people are worried they are going to buy everyone out. Interesting.
 
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Zenimax was nowhere close to going out of business either, despite all the mistakes of Bethesda from recent years.
Neither you nor I know what the status of Zenimax's financial health was. Companies have shown if they don't want to be bought they won't be. Look at Nintendo or EA who both rebuffed MS's offers to purchase. People here got a big laugh out of it. Zenimax must have seen a value in getting bought and the devs there seem OK with it.
 

squidilix

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If Sony aren't careful, could they loose a foothold in Japan to Microsoft.
Christ... Phil Spencer is a silly man... "hey, if we want more sale on Japan, just buying japan dev"... yeah sure... phil...
Even Sony CAN'T beat with the actual market on Japan (full mobile/switch)... how to fuck they hoping expand to Japan when even Japanese don't know is a Xbox...
 
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Why do you think this has changed?
Xbox doesn’t hold a candle to the rest of their business and if/when MS makes cuts to their business it won’t be to Office/Windows.
MS has invested 7.5 billion dollars on a publisher. If that is a move a company makes right before cutting ties with that entire part of their business I don't see that business staying in business too long.

All studios under Zenimax are well known for multiplatorm IPs for decades, not exclusives.
Final Fantasy is a multiplaform IP Sony doesn't even own and was made exclusive. At least in this case MS actually fully owns the IP so it's just an investment they've made in their business. Zenimax seemed to want the sale. This wasn't a hostile takeover.
 

Stuart360

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The main problem would be if MS closes Xbox because it’s seen as only a very tiny part of their business and with it goes thousands of jobs and IP.
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And why would Microsoft close Xbox exactly?. 160mil console sales over 3 gens. X and S will almost certainly beat XB1's 50mil sales (70+mil imo), the Xbox division seems to hit record profits every quarter. And Xbox isnt just a console now, its a service, a service thats also on PC, and soon mobile. They have Gamepass at 18mil subs and rising by millions every quarter, Xcloud, (which is the future, no matter how much we dont want it).

Xbox is going nowhere, its time people moved on from 2013.

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Shmunter

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Why is it a bad practice? If those studios were in jeopardy of going under, being picked up by a larger more financially stability entity is a good thing. By the way Bethesda has done more than 1 game on Xbox 14 years ago. There are plenty of indie developers and studios. There is guy here who had a take on this I happen to agree with. He also knows a thing or two about the industry.


The way to look at it is the games created by Bathesda would still be on Xbox irrespective of the buyout. A deal like this doesn't actually add anything to the xbox library. Overall nothing has been created to grow the video game market in such a deal.

Indeed such large acquisitions are generally seen as a threat to the open market hence why US/EU approvals need to be sought to ensure it doesn't go to far in a monopolistic/anti-competitive direction.

Xbox fans rightfully can enjoy sticking it to the other guys, but really it's just taking the ball and going home with it kind of thing.
 
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The way to look at it is the games created by Bathesda would still be on Xbox irrespective of the buyout. A deal like this doesn't actually add anything to the xbox library. Overall nothing has been created to grow the video game market in such a deal.

Indeed such large accusations are generally seen as a threat to the open market hence why US/EU approvals need to be sought to ensure it doesn't go to far in a monopolistic/anti-competitive direction.

Xbox fans rightfully can enjoy sticking it to the other guys, but really it's just taking the ball and going home with it kind of thing.
There is a stability that comes from being under a huge company. Finances are something Zenimax doesn't have to worry about as much now as they did when they were on their own. No one is sticking it to anyone this is simply business and people who bought into the Xbox ecosystem can have some confidence their investment will be supported.

That’s pocket change for MS. They also invested billions into Mixer not so long ago.
They also invested in LinkedIn. What is your point? Zenimax and Mixer are not the same.
 

Shmunter

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After they deliver 2 next gen exclusives to Sony when next gen exclusives are nonexistent on their own consoles. The timing is amazing.
The next gen exclusives were in no doubt subsidized by Sony to make these titles 'next-gen'.

Company bean counters considering a next gen only project leaving millions of potential sales on the table is likely a difficult impasse. Especially when the new gen blurs lines and runs last gen seamlessly. I propose these games would not have targeted next-gen hardware with 3rd party economics at play.

XsX owners will benefit from these titles down the line. 'Exclusivity' doesn't imply a timeframe.
 

Shmunter

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There is a stability that comes from being under a huge company. Finances are something Zenimax doesn't have to worry about as much now as they did when they were on their own. No one is sticking it to anyone this is simply business and people who bought into the Xbox ecosystem can have some confidence their investment will be supported.
Did you you just equate a multi billion dollar company like Zenimax to a fledgling indy studio? Common man.
 
Did you you just equate a multi billion dollar company like Zenimax to a fledgling indy studio? Common man.
What do fledgling indy studios and large corporations have in common? They both need money to continue to function. Bigger companies much more so. With MS's support Zenimax has to worry about that less. Few other companies can offer that sort of support.
 

Shmunter

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What do fledgling indy studios and large corporations have in common? They both need money to continue to function. Bigger companies much more so. With MS's support Zenimax has to worry about that less. Few other companies can offer that sort of support.
Sorry, don’t see any of the ‘poor company needs money’ apply to monolithic entities. Especially Zenimax with decade old established ip’s that are going nowhere, print money, and carry no risk upon release like brand new ip’s due to the giant inbuilt fan bases.
 

bitbydeath

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And why would Microsoft close Xbox exactly?. 160mil console sales over 3 gens. X and S will almost certainly beat XB1's 50mil sales (70+mil imo), the Xbox division seems to hit record profits every quarter. And Xbox isnt just a console now, its a service, a service thats also on PC, and soon mobile. They have Gamepass at 18mil subs and rising by millions every quarter, Xcloud, (which is the future, no matter how much we dont want it).

Xbox is going nowhere, its time people moved on from 2013.

'Now get dem smilies ready boys'
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Because it’s one of the smallest parts of their business so this will always be a possibility.
 
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