Fake
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TLZ
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Let's bet on that bebePpl will bet over anything even whose *%*% got the fattest %ussy
bitbydeath
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Reindeer
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NAND Flash Prices Expected to Rise Significantly
A possible increase in NAND flash prices may lead to a significant increase in cost for devices that utilize NAND flash, like SSDs.
wccftech.com
Reindeer
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8K is for media consumption, you will not see that in any demanding game.
Let’s lay off this back and forth meta and return the thread to form.
Shin
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NAND Flash Prices Expected to Rise Significantly
A possible increase in NAND flash prices may lead to a significant increase in cost for devices that utilize NAND flash, like SSDs.
Someone already posted the same story, different url, same source.
Reindeer
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Saw that after I replied.
Imtjnotu
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but if both companies put their orders in last year it shouldnt affect console prices too much
MoreJRPG
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I'm anxious for pricing so I can mentally prepare myself to drop $500 in the 10 seconds it'll take to pre-order it.
xPikYx
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Ps4 games 8k@30fps
Lort
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Lol that’s almost true but they will be 8k cb 30 fps.
DeepEnigma
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I doubt there will be that much of an increase (40%) on consumer SSDs as the article suggests. It’s all speculative.
For consoles, the orders have been put in already, That could be one of the causes for a slight temporary increase, the outage at Samsung factory combined with console manufacturers sucking up most of the current inventory.
Then when the consoles release and start taking off everything will stabilize again, prices will come down as that storage medium becomes the go to in the PC space as a side effect.
I’m still seeing the 860 EVOs having great sales currently.
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Reindeer
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I said that in my earlier replies, that it probably won't effect them if the price was agreed upon before this.
. We'll find out soon enough. A couple of weeks he said if I recall correctly.
it_wasn't_me
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Well, HBM price went down notably and also huge order were made. We'll see.
SportsFan581
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As a resident Xbot, I suffer vicarious embarrassment when watching some Xbox related channels. I don't think anyone could be worse than Crapgamer.
Lockhart if it's significantly cheaper. A lot of people try to push the xbox one x as some saviour of the xbox one brand but it barely sells any and is always outsold massively by the regular gimped S version.
vpance
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The 5700 was supposedly something they banged out without much work on efficiency. RDNA2 is the real golden goose. Nobody knows how good it can clock on 7nm+, so I still think it's possible. Remember these next gen consoles will probably have a TDP budget closer to 250w instead of like 170w.
Reindeer
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The only ones I'll watch when it comes to covering Xbox news are Rand and Brad Sams who also covers Microsoft stuff. There are some bad Sony fanboy channels as well, but Xbox YouTubers definitely take the take when it comes to sensationalism and drama.
SportsFan581
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I think X1X is a bad indicator for how a 2 Sku launch would play out. Neither the X or the Pro lit the world on fire, a mid-gen refresh just doesn't have the same oomph as a new console gen. IMO, expect the typical early adopters to take the higher-end model. Low-attach buyers and those that would generally sit on the sidelines in the early going would be the target customers of Lockhart.
Lone Wolf
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I thought crapgamer switched to PlayStation
Samanosuke Akechi
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Im leaning towards Lockhart as it’ll be cheaper. Similar now to how the S model is the better seller over the X.
Mista
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The cheaper will sell more. Especially that any casual that wants to get an Xbox will go for the cheaper one because they don’t care about the specs
nowhat
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Well if you insist. I'm an insider!
it_wasn't_me
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Oh, there are, but not on Youtube. Regarding crapgamer, he is how the wind blows. Sometime is on one side, sometimes on the other side.
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RaySoft
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250W for the whole system including cooling of an APU with a CPU at 3.2GHz and a GPU at 2GHz? rly? This are supposed to be devices in everyones homes, not like the devkits at supporting studios... It's a bit different ballgame switching devices between the two.
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SportsFan581
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Are we sure that the CPUs are going to be clocked this high? Or are we getting single-thread boost clock speeds, with lower base clocks.
Rightisright
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You just cant flick a switch. However MS made up for the lackluster OG One with a better S, and the awesome X. Both contain 4k bluray players, and they bumped up the frequency of both the GPU and CPU to give it a bit more. They gave excellent BC upgrades with enhanced visuals and performance, for nothing. They have been buying up first party studios and putting together new ones such as the initiative.
That has been a massive investment in first party support. So while this Gen wont benefit, next gen will. So I really look forward to what Sonys first parties put out, and what MSs first parties come out with.
Historically you are correct that MS screwed up their first parties. I mean they let Bungie walk away for nothing, they turned one of Nintendo's best developers Rare into a shell of their former self. Absolutely crazy.
But like I said, if you haven't seen a new change of direction, you haven't been looking.
Now if only Nontnedo decided to go balls out with another new high tech console.
TLZ
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Insane Metal
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I predict PS5 will eat up ~230W. XSX ~250W.
CPU to be 25-30W.
CPU to be 25-30W.
Mista
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Might be around it or most probably the latter
Rightisright
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What the he'll has releasing a sub par game got to do with the leadership? If Crackdown is the best thing you can hold against them, well they are doing pretty well.
And as for "childish", I hace no idea what you are talking about.
VFXVeteran
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Yes, they won't work.
Rightisright
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Rightisright
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Why can't a console cool it, but a PC can? They can go 2.5ghz if they want, so long as they can take the heat out.
01011001
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My PC doesn't have a giant case, and it doesn't get loud at all... and that's the case even tho my GTX 1070oc boosts up to 2GHz... abd it has no issues doing that.
if they are using a good cooling solution and the case isn't too small I see no issue with that
Fake
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Agree. Sry.
Mass Shift
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Yeah that was real tough on the Xbox loyalists, they had a hard time dealing with that. I remember several of my own friends freaked during the May 2013 reveal. When people saw this, they knew the leaks were all true and it was too late to do anything about it.
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Fake
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The series X will be like a premium rather than base.
Now, if Lockhart will replace either base Xbox or Xbox X will be a mistery.
What the retail price of Xbox One X? Lockhart will be more expensive, no?
VFXVeteran
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Nah. I don't see that. 16G is pretty much a given.
StreetsofBeige
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I don't know who leaked that info, but we need that guy back.Yeah that was real tough on the Xbox loyalists, they had a hard time dealing with that. I remember several of my own friends freaked during the May 2013 reveal. When people saw this, they knew the leaks were all true and it was too late to do anything about it.
In the info, even the Orbis PS4 kit said it would use GDDR5 ram, while Xbox Durango didn't. 100% true.
If all the insiders are saying the github info is crap are old. Fine. So where's the most recent info and specs? All these insiders say it's outdated info. Ok, maybe it is. So where's the latest then? Not one person wants to say anything because they don't have anything.
Until someone wants to state the most recent PS5 specs, it's 9.2TF for now.
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Self High Five
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There are so many different factors on why casual/price conscious consumer doesn't jump in early and it's more than just the entry level price of a console.
First, game library is more important than the price point of a console & launch will always have the least desirable lineup.
Second, casuals who want cheaper consoles like cheaper games as well. One of the best reasons on adopting early is getting a varied game lineup with different prices. A casuals doesn't say to themselves "I'm a cheap bastard when comes to the price of a console, but boy, do I sure like spending full price on every game!" Do soccer moms not like to got to Wal Mart or Gamestop to find cheap games for their kids? (Lockhart may not even come with a disc drive, which limits its potential for casuals even more)
Lastly, what makes you think casuals who waited this gen to buy an Xbox One or PS4 are gonna want to spend money on a console again so soon? If someone bought a console in '17, '18 or '19, we're talking 2-3 years max so far with their current console. What is their rush to buy another one again? All the popular cross gen titles will still be available. Their initial plan of waiting and having a vast library to choose with cheaper game prices worked before. Why change now?
Consumers are creatures of habits and I think in general are being short sighted with the market potential for Lockhart. There has been lower priced SKU's for consoles at launch before (that actually came with a disc drive) and performed poorly in relation to the higher priced SKU.
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TLZ
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What do you think of this thread claiming 8gb and 12gb?
Techpowerup has listed the specifications of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X
It seems the smoke did lead to a fire and the contrast is quite stark. I can't see them posting this not only if it wasn't true, but also with this much detail it seems the leaks led to the actual hardware. Xbox Series X https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/xbox-series-x-gpu.c3482...
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VFXVeteran
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What do you think of this thread claiming 8gb and 12gb?
Techpowerup has listed the specifications of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X
It seems the smoke did lead to a fire and the contrast is quite stark. I can't see them posting this not only if it wasn't true, but also with this much detail it seems the leaks led to the actual hardware. Xbox Series X https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/xbox-series-x-gpu.c3482...www.neogaf.com
It's not 8G. I was hinted at 16G and I trust my sources. And I think DF info is pretty accurate (imo).
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