Lort
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Your off topic dude ...
..and your super annoyed I called out how wrong you are.
You claimed there is no claim about 4k gaming and its right there on the playstation home page.
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Your off topic dude ...
..and your super annoyed I called out how wrong you are.
You claimed there is no claim about 4k gaming and its right there on the playstation home page.
The Mad Draklor
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Who are you even talking to? I didn't say anything, only asked about your mental state.
Well, thanks for answering my question at least... I can tell you that the answer isn't exactly positive...
SmokSmog
Member
Guys, do we really need RT?
This light was baked, do you want 1TB games with this technique ?
BTW. This is just baked RT = static.
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HeisenbergFX4
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I really havent given any estimates on what I think flops will be next gen just that both are very close.
Just my guess
BattleScar
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There is an unhealthy obsession with tera flops
Lort
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Naw did I hurt your friends feelings.
Sorry if I mistook you for someone that had something to say on the topic at hand.
FranXico
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How close do you mean? Within 1,5TF of each other?
The Mad Draklor
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Looks like you have no legitimate counterarguments, then. If your go-to tactic is strawmanning what was actually stated in the asterisks, then that is not an argument.
Hawking Radiation
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Aye
At this point, I couldn't give a rats ass what teraflops either console is at. I'm keen to see what devs can do with these monstrous components these next gen machines have.
WOW me with the games. Not numbers.
HeisenbergFX4
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If you are talking one being 12 then yes in that very close neighborhood you are in.
Lort
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There's no way it's going to as big a difference as ps4 to xbox one ... 50% difference. 10% maybe 20% max
FranXico
Member
That sounds good, everyone should be happy then. Thanks.
Insane Metal
Member
At this point I'm convinced that both machines are really really close in power, which is great for us gamers. Multiplats will be great in both consoles and first parties will have plenty of resources to make amazing games.
FranXico
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Ratios tend to be way bigger with smaller numbers, so I wouldn't expect more than 20% either.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Everyone will be very happy with these machines.
Just throwing this out there so not a guess in the least.
Even if the real TF number comes out at 9ish with the new tech that is still a monster upgrade over even the current Xbox One X.
THE:MILKMAN
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Granted, but even Brad Sams update shows what is likely the figure 8 connector. I'm just curious why Sony used the figure 8 connector in OG PS4 (250W PSU) but switched to the 'kettle' connector for PS4 Pro if it wasn't required.
Hawking Radiation
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This is what damn near every insider has been saying for months that the machines are very very close in terms of raw power.
If one is 12TF then the other is not far ahead or behind that mark.
Its really going to come down to games and services which is alright by me.
Well thats going to suck, if true. I don't mind it but just wish that MS and Sony can push the machines atleast above 10TF. Guess im greedy for them squeezing every ounce out of these machines.
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demigod
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So XSX is in the 9TF RDNA?
SportsFan581
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That's gonna kill some people from both camps if true.
Insane Metal
Member
Dude, no one is revealing that kind of thing. Not for now anyways.
SmokSmog
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Old sheet
Ah, so we have the back side. Time to expand my [probably absurd] notion with the safety protocols off.
One enclosure, two plugin trays.
The board would have to include APU & memory... maybe M2?
Why? PC-like enclosure, PC-like up-gradability. Trade-in your Lockhart for an Anaconda... or whatever else they come up with 18/24 months after release. Basically it would be a PC sans hassle. No can opener required.
/fap
HeisenbergFX4
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Just trying to reassure people that are all doom and gloom over any 9tf "leak" that is still a beast of a console.
SmokSmog
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V4skunk
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PS5 X86 architecture means backwards compatability is almost 100% guaranteed with ps4.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Teraflops this. Teraflops that.
Can we all just get passed this and enjoy the fact that both MS and Sony is going to come out hard with machines both equally powerful and surely going to be paired with great content.
MS just bought new studios and they're going to put alot of resources into crafting amazing games. That alone should be enough to get excited. They also have Gamepass and will also be branching out to PC more.
Sony is Sony. Can't argue with their stable of studios and content. Most likely we will see a Gamepass competitor. Also we're going to get a premium console that should be on the same level as the Series X in terms of built quality.
Then we have things like Ray Tracing, 3D Audio, SSD's, proper CPU's. I'd never thought i'd see Ray Tracing and SSD's in any gen in the foreseeable future but here we are.
This alone is reason to get hyped.
GET HYPED my brothers and sisters! WE ABOUT TO EAT!
Can we all just get passed this and enjoy the fact that both MS and Sony is going to come out hard with machines both equally powerful and surely going to be paired with great content.
MS just bought new studios and they're going to put alot of resources into crafting amazing games. That alone should be enough to get excited. They also have Gamepass and will also be branching out to PC more.
Sony is Sony. Can't argue with their stable of studios and content. Most likely we will see a Gamepass competitor. Also we're going to get a premium console that should be on the same level as the Series X in terms of built quality.
Then we have things like Ray Tracing, 3D Audio, SSD's, proper CPU's. I'd never thought i'd see Ray Tracing and SSD's in any gen in the foreseeable future but here we are.
This alone is reason to get hyped.
GET HYPED my brothers and sisters! WE ABOUT TO EAT!
ethomaz
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FranXico
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Disco_
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They'd go with an upclocked 4800H, if anything. That would make it 45w-55w TDP, almost what the desktop 3700x is. If we assume the flute bench was accurate, they will not be using the full 32mb of the desktop chips, That takes up a lot of die space.Nextgen consoles CPU: https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-7-4800u
IMO.HeisenbergFX4 whatcha think?
Since CPU only is 15W I expect some kind of improvement, like a bigger L3 cache (32MB instead of 8MB for example).
demigod
Member
I'm fine with 9TF, we've seen what Sony 1st Party can do even with 1.8TF. Anything over 9 is just icing on the cake.
ethomaz
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Previous page had a lot of discussing about dual GPU because nVidia said it is better lol
Denis Colovic
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I dont care if its 9, 10 or more teraflops. What we will get are consoles that are capable of delivering 100+ FPS in 1080 and 1440p and on top of that we also get real time ray tracing. Thats all I need. Imagine all those new FPS games on console on a 65 inch fresync TV with 100+ FPS.
Disco_
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IIRC, the pro has a >310w PSU in it. A 345w PSU in a ~175w system telsl me it's probably a cheap, inefficient PSU. Efficiency is likely in the 60-70% load area. If the XSX is >200-250 as some suggest and comes with a 275w plug, they must be using a pricey, efficient PSU.
xool
Member
So I just went to browse the restera thread because of the fanboy console war shitshow this thread has turned into .. and apparently in the US they let you put 10A through a cassette lead
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake! OT
Some insider , possibly Klee and please correct and forgive me if I make mistakes by repeating the info (been a while since I read it) mentioned that what he saw was basically The Order 1886 visual fidelity with great lighting while everything felt "alive". It's not easy to answer your question...
www.resetera.com
that's 1250W. Might be enough.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Holy Cow that looks good.
God i hope PS5 theme is black and white. You defo cannot mistake this for a PS4 game
HeisenbergFX4
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sonomamashine
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i saw some comments people worried about 9TF + ryzen could do, i already posted this before, this is the only Real Time trailer of a next gen game i saw in the game awards, the graphics are good (for an early kit) and look at those movements, looks like every leaf has it own physics (and thats what ryzen does).
Bogroll
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Would this be at XbX and Pro settings though at 100fps, I'm no expert but curious.
Blindarchangel82
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That's sexy AF! I'm hoping they go with a black box this time.
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Lunatic_Gamer
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Denis Colovic
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SportsFan581
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I guess 9 or 10 would be a workable number. 
Traditionally the consoles use lower clocks than desktop GPUs. Maybe everyone is overestimating the clock speeds. Stadia did choose 10, theoretically they could have chosen anything (not trying to hit a MSRP).
The people in the know hear 10 and think, "great". The gamers hear it and think "great", but then they think what about 11, 12, or 13.
Traditionally the consoles use lower clocks than desktop GPUs. Maybe everyone is overestimating the clock speeds. Stadia did choose 10, theoretically they could have chosen anything (not trying to hit a MSRP).
The people in the know hear 10 and think, "great". The gamers hear it and think "great", but then they think what about 11, 12, or 13.
Denis Colovic
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Evilms
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Black like PS1/PS2/PS3
Already on the bogus rumors more yesterday with the fake picture on the back of the console, it's crazy how digital foundry is sucking microsoft lately
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