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What makes you think 'one camp has better chance at this stage'?
if the PS5 is truly clocked at close to 2GHz there is almost no room left and even that clock speed is ridiculously high... but again that is IF that's the case
What makes you think 'one camp has better chance at this stage'?
Yeah I agree with you, Matt and Klee have both denied the Oberon leak, it is not representative of the final console, and I thought all posters were saying that a 2000 MHz GPU in a console wouldn't work, what happened now??Yeah it is then Matt chimed in on tht github so many fanboys were holding on to. You mean the github with no RT solution rightfrom testing awhile back???
Yup its on the wall. I'm bookmarking you bcus we all know both these consoles will be in double digits.
if the PS5 is truly clocked at close to 2GHz there is almost no room left and even that clock speed is ridiculously high... but again that is IF that's the case
If you think Switch price is relevenat to how Sony and MS set their pricing for 10 TF you are delusional.
Why dont you go on the nintendo threads and talk about all those lovely hand me downs ?
I play on a LG 55 OLED in 4K, I have eyes, I also have a toaster thanks. Please stop about Ninetdno, I am just laughing at you.
The github leak while real it's not up to date I don't even know why people keep bringing that shit up.
Oberon leaked data was for a B0 stepping! We now know oberon is at E0 stepping according to rogame guy on twitter.
XSX chip seems to be a D0 stepping according to Colbert from era.
Steppings (A, B, C, D, etc) means that there was a major redesign of the chip, which is something expensive for companies btw.
Jason, Matt and Klee all said the systems are pretty much close, there won't be a major difference between them in therms of performance.
At minimum expect a 10.25 TF PS5 and at best a 13 TF GPU.
I'm personally expecting the difference between both consoles to be between 1-1.5 TF, which is not significant.
That's less than the difference between a RTX 2080 Super vs RTX 2080 Ti and somewhat the difference between a RTX 2080 vs RTX 2080 Super, in real world performance you'll get like 3 to 5 frames difference with the same graphical settings but... games are tailored to both consoles, so it's meaningless. But yeah console wars will continue even if the difference is 100 MHz, no doubt about it.
But 3 TF or more difference? At a similar BOM? Not happening. Feel free to bookmark me!
Regarding BOM, Zhuge said he expects the PS5 BOM to be between 450 and 490 and XSX between 460-520.
The bloomberg guy talked about 450 but none of these things are confirmed - the dude was wrong several times in the past too.
So yeah regarding retail price don't expect a 400€/$400 console or you'll be dissapointed, it simply won't happen, even more when price for certain materials is rising.
If PS5 BOM is 450 that doesn't include manufacturing, packaging, distrubution, etc, and sony is not in the business of losing money! Same with MS.
Again, If the performance between the two consoles is identical, there is no reason for sony to have the console cheaper than XSX and that thing won't be less than 500.
Another reason could be that MS decides to go below 500 with XSX, which won't happen because they'll have lockhart as a cheaper option.
Which to be honest I don't think it will make a dent on playstation sales wordwilde, at best it will help MS sell more on the US, UK, Mexico and that's about it.
If anyone runs that 2Ghz ina consumer console they better take out extended warranty lol
Cant see it happening, dont believe it.
many modern PC graphics cards can easily reach 2GHz with some good fans. I have an overclocked GTX1070 that goes up to 2.1GHz and the fans get only slightly loud enough to be noticeable during these boosts while remaining relatively cool. so if the cooling is there this should be doable
It doesn't fit the form factor.
2GHZ would cool better in XSX tower design.
It doesn't fit the form factor.
2GHZ would cool better in XSX tower design.
we don't know the form factor, and I really reaaallly don't believe the PS5 will look like the dev kits. maybe it will be tower like as well? we don't know, could be... PS4 and PS4pro dev kits look nothing like their retail counterparts either so![]()
i play on a 55 oled o gawd look At me. Im laughing at yo pathetic ass
I got 2 OLED and a well payed job so I dont care if consoles are 2000 each, got 4 ps4s lol, you have to ask your mom for your cheap crap fisher price / Nintendo plastic tat . Weep little Ninendo fanboy.
Bet you enjoy your little amiible toys or whatever they are called, and got little dolls as well
I will ignore you now as your just a Nintendo fanbioy and I dont care
Can you definitively say that people should ignore the Github leak? Is it really misleading?Lordt
I genuinely wonder if people will be upset by how similar the machines are this time around.
I got 2 OLED and a well payed job so I dont care if consoles are 2000 each, got 4 ps4s lol, you have to ask your mom for your cheap crap fisher price / Nintendo plastic tat . Weep little Ninendo fanboy.
Bet you enjoy your little amiible toys or whatever they are called, and got little dolls as well
I will ignore you now as your just a Nintendo fanbioy and I dont care
I got 2 OLED ...
Bet you enjoy your little amiible toys or whatever they are called, and got little dolls as well
I will ignore you now as your just a Nintendo fanbioy and I dont care
Seriously what has Osiris black ever told us that came true?I appreciate that.
I can not speak on @Tommy Fisher where he gets his info but @OsirisBlack has fantastic sources and yes I do respect what he posts.
As far as why he has PS5 over XsX in power I feel safe to say at this point in time I would agree with that.
In 3 months from now I feel the power crown will head into MS corner.
Uses Unreal Engine 4. Made by Epic Games' lead artist: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qW5aNCan we get something like this on next gen consoles??
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MS has simply more wiggle room for upclocks because of their cooling design.
Sony already pushed the clocks to the limit.
thats why the xbox will have a slight tf advantage at the end.
And then the rumble triggers and fancy screen on the controllerThe Bloomberg article addressed the price of the cooling system. I don't think it's going to be a huge factor in overall price ...
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Time to pre-order guys.
many modern PC graphics cards can easily reach 2GHz with some good fans. I have an overclocked GTX1070 that goes up to 2.1GHz and the fans get only slightly loud enough to be noticeable during these boosts while remaining relatively cool. so if the cooling is there this should be doable
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How big is your PC?many modern PC graphics cards can easily reach 2GHz with some good fans. I have an overclocked GTX1070 that goes up to 2.1GHz and the fans get only slightly loud enough to be noticeable during these boosts while remaining relatively cool. so if the cooling is there this should be doable
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Reservation but not really.
Can you definitively say that people should ignore the Github leak? Is it really misleading?
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Time to pre-order guys.
Yeah has osiris said the github leak is fake or outdated?
As long as the form factor is the same as a PC tower, not seeing it happen in something that goesmany modern PC graphics cards can easily reach 2GHz with some good fans. I have an overclocked GTX1070 that goes up to 2.1GHz and the fans get only slightly loud enough to be noticeable during these boosts while remaining relatively cool. so if the cooling is there this should be doable
And how are you supposed to know this? And please, don't you say that leak...MS has simply more wiggle room for upclocks because of their cooling design.
Sony already pushed the clocks to the limit.
thats why the xbox will have a slight tf advantage at the end.
Obviousky he'll say it's outdated lol Osiris is saying ps5 is a little above 12 tflops so thts self explanatory.
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But has he verified any of the Arden stuff that was on github all it basically mentioned for Arden was bandwidth and CU's
If anyone runs that 2Ghz ina consumer console they better take out extended warranty lol
Cant see it happening, dont believe it.
Uses Unreal Engine 4. Made by Epic Games' lead artist: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qW5aN
EDIT: Another UE4 stunner by the same artist:
Yeah I agree with you, Matt and Klee have both denied the Oberon leak, it is not representative of the final console, and I thought all posters were saying that a 2000 MHz GPU in a console wouldn't work, what happened now??
Maybe that's a stress test. And it's actually under 2000 so lower than 9.2TF, maybe 8TF?
These are APUs. PS5 will be a BBQ, like the PS3 was a George Foreman grill.many modern PC graphics cards can easily reach 2GHz with some good fans. I have an overclocked GTX1070 that goes up to 2.1GHz and the fans get only slightly loud enough to be noticeable during these boosts while remaining relatively cool. so if the cooling is there this should be doable
Do we know the specs of the hardware powering these creations?
Omg this thread is golden.
Exactly you get my point