Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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In Germany we call such guys "Schnacker" - someone who talks a lot but says little in order to make himself important.
 
Funny how much this stuff shows up, almost on cue, the instant there is any disparaging news about Xbox.

Halo may now be 2022 because it was too ambitious to be cross gen amongst a MYRIAD of other issues..


Time to start slinging the PS5 is RDNA2, no VRS, that's not really Ray Tracing stuff.

Microsoft and 343 messed up. They are to blame. Time to correct the faults.

It's like my mom, who is incredibly bad with finances amongst other things but will blame anyone else or sling mud at them except at herself .
 
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Whatever, I wont comment on people who call themelves develpers who have not made any games and DM real sony engineers on twitter and then post them on GAF to do fan wars.

He was the guy that got that Italian Sony engineer in trouble about 1 aspect of ps5 is still RDNA1 (mayeb cache scrubber ?) , and the sony engineer had to clear things up on an italian web site and make a statement. Nice guy eh ?

Pretending your a devloper, no games, opens up a web site with 1 image (he is a painter) and then using that to hound devepers on twitter is the lowest of the low. People should have some pride.

Gavin should really go back into his Xbox discord hole, doubt he will ever make a game as he said himself he cant animate..
 
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Yup how will XSX server run 4 versions at once ? Once Halo is upgraded properly how do you scale it down to 4 instances...

The whole though process is around cheap games, low quality and streaming IMO, maybe the strategy will change again.

I would take it that the XSX exclusive games will drop at a point when they have enough XSX blades to handle the load 1:1. I assume they could work XSS into the picture in some way as well, maybe some type of clustered blade or something like they are using now.
 
Update on my investigation on the Amazing Twitter Teasing Duo™.




The video comes from here:



The angle is slightly different and there is no title screen, so he probably took it from some backstage video or something like that. I don't think he's claiming this is from a game, so it could just be to represent whatever he wants to say, but the more info the better.

His self-imposed timeout of 48 hours should end tomorrow I believe? Curious to see what more he has to say at this point.



Now onto our other hero, Jace Skell, who is much more interesting.


I've been looking around trying to understand if he's taken all of these video snippets from somewhere, but it's difficult.




They are clearly all form the same source, but they look re-edited to some extent to me. There is a weird fade-out near the end of the first one, and the large shot with the smoke column is repeated identical in the second and third video. The audio in general makes little sense, since the narrating voice is repeated identical in both videos (it doesn't just say the same thing, it's the same exact recording), and the third video has no sound at all.

I tried to upload the videos on YouTube as private videos, but no content ID comes up, so they are probably not from a movie with a commercial release. My current theory is that our friend took the visuals from some CGI short movie, proof of concept tech demo or commercial, and then did the audio completely from zero, which is something you can easily replicate in an hour with a microphone, a couple of generic free stock music tracks and minimal experience with Audacity.


In the meanwhile, he published another short segment:



This one could literally be anything. It looks like CGI, but the quality is so low that it might even be real footage with some heavy filtering added. And the text on the left could have not been there originally, so it might mean nothing.


So, not much was found... BUT, I've been digging through his twitter history, and it looks like he really loves to hint at stuff with very short CGI videos or edited pictures, which so far never lead anywhere or were ever mentioned again. So it's not the first time he does this.











Then there is... this one, that I think is really telling. Here is him claiming he received a copy of Ghost of Tsushima on 19 May (the game released 17 July):



If you look at the box art you can see that the rating is marked as "provisional", which is something that is never printed on retail copies, even if they are early copies created before release (like press copies, which in my experience are more bland, standardized disks in a clean CD box with no art at all anywhere).

So this is him downloading the cover art for the game published somewhere by Sony (hello cover art revealed in December 2019), printing it and placing it in a BD case.

Oh, and the mask in the background is quite visibly photoshopped in. This is where he took the image from:

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Alternatively he did everything digitally to begin with and made a mashup of different photos. Because I strongly suspect not even the hand is his own, since it appears to have a tattoo on the back and it is of very clear complexion. But then we have this other video:



where he clearly has no tattoo and his complexion looks darker. Which is confirmed by this other video, where one person that to me looks Indian or middle-eastern with very similar complexion is also seen:




So yeah, this is definitely some troubled person with access to large libraries of CGI videos, some video editing and possibly 3D animation skills himself, way too much spare time on his hands, and some pathological need of being at the center of attention.


Thank you for this but I wish you didn't waste your time because it is already known that those are fake insiders. It's the insiders season. Believe GAF insiders because they got checked by mods but Twitter is the wild west.
 
Whatever, I wont comment on people who call themelves develpers who have not made any games and DM real sony engineers on twitter and then post them on GAF to do fan wars.

He was the guy that got that Italian Sony engineer in trouble about 1 aspect of ps5 is still RDNA1 (mayeb cache scrubber ?) , and the sony engineer had to clear things up on an italian web site and make a statement. Nice guy eh ?

Gavin should really go back into his Xbox discord hole, doubt he will ever make a game as he said himself he cant animate..

the guy does seem to have a pet peeve with Sony.

can't wait till we finally get some hardware information, we can finally get rid of these antagonizers. Probably not.
 
You can make water like this in a game but why waste so much resources on one aspect only? Unless it's important for gameplay.

For the show! Of course! That's why i can't wait this kind of calculations will be common and not so heavy, if not this incoming gen, i'm sure next gen i will have this type of water almost....everywhere! ^^
AC has had great water shaders since part IV but just look at that...


In AC the only interaction of water with the character is additional animation (ripple in front and wake in the back). There's no physics involved. Of course here it's also faked but looks good enough if you don't need any interaction with the environment, just visuals.


in the last of us 3 water doesn't have any geometric deformation interaction with the player, it's flat in a terrible way, it was better in uncharted 4 at least there was some deformation interaction with the player, they removed this even in the last legacy. I hate this kind of water with all myself, it's so fake, it looks like a more liquid version of mercury! The interaction with deformation of the surface (like assassin's creed latest 2 episode but with better quality, physics) is the fucking minimum that i would aspect from next generation games. Flat water with shader based ripples painted on the surface must DIE!!!!
 
in the last of us 3 water doesn't have any geometric deformation interaction with the player, it's flat in a terrible way, it was better in uncharted 4 at least there was some deformation interaction with the player, they removed this even in the last legacy. I hate this kind of water with all myself, it's so fake, it looks like a more liquid version of mercury! The interaction with deformation of the surface (like assassin's creed latest 2 episode but with better quality, physics) is the fucking minimum that i would aspect from next generation games. Flat water with shader based ripples painted on the surface must DIE!!!!
What is 'geometric deformation'? I've never heard such a term.
 
I can see some uncharted type game using it as a destructible backdrop element (shooting a fish tank, water pours out, etc) however don't expect this level of simulation for bodies of water larger than a kiddy pool. Its not worth it, though you can expect a greater level of water surface deformation in general, so even if it's not physically simulated it will react more realistically to the player

Thank you! I can't wait to see it and play with it ! ^^
 
Talking about stuff this week, our good friend HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 did say that next week is going to be a good week.

I don't like twitter people at all, i think they are full of shit. But it could be possible Sony rounded up all the ps4/5 influences they could find in the uk and gave them a small demonstration.

As much as i don't like foxy and co, i think he regurgitates a lot of stuff from other people. He is basically risking his whole career, profile, image whatever you want to call it. If he is lying he will be finished.

It makes me wonder.
 
It's "strange" that they feel the need to mention PS5 so much. It was a Hot Chips breakdown of XSX wasn't it? :messenger_confused:

This guy. Teamblurr are not a developer, he is an artist looking for a job that likes to console war. He would not comment on the tecnhnical side because he does not know....Move on.

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Not sure on some of the dates - showing Sunday for some releases




Okay, folks. I have enough experience with GameStop(10 years I was with them) to chime in here.

A lot of times those are placeholder dates and sometimes they put speculative titles on there to drive reservations early. Most of them end up being legitimate.

Additionally, that is an accurate print out of a GameStop upcoming reservation list. If that list has gone up(even in Germany), that means the placeholder SKUs for the systems will be right behind on a "Hardware" tab.


PS5 preorders will be opening soon. I still have two contacts with my old GameStop family. I'll reach out and find out if they appeared in the US
 
Okay, folks. I have enough experience with GameStop(10 years I was with them) to chime in here.

A lot of times those are placeholder dates and sometimes they put speculative titles on there to drive reservations early. Most of them end up being legitimate.

Additionally, that is an accurate print out of a GameStop upcoming reservation list. If that list has gone up(even in Germany), that means the placeholder SKUs for the systems will be right behind on a "Hardware" tab.


PS5 preorders will be opening soon. I still have two contacts with my old GameStop family. I'll reach out and find out if they appeared in the US

If i had a sister, I would sell her to you.

got a dumpy-looking brother? good enough.
 
A lot of times those are placeholder dates and sometimes they put speculative titles on there to drive reservations early. Most of them end up being legitimate.

What about the current gen titles that are there like Ghosts of Tsushima?

I'm thinking maybe it's possible for Sony to do a rerelease with the PS5 updates included on the disk.
 
What about the current gen titles that are there like Ghosts of Tsushima?

I'm thinking maybe it's possible for Sony to do a rerelease with the PS5 updates included on the disk.


GameStop, despite their struggles,has influence and may know what are confirmed titles before we do. I've reached out and will let you know if they have heard anything.

Bear in mind, any of you could call up a local Stop and ask if they have a reservation list of PS5 games. Depends if they are smart enough to check and see id the tab appeared. They are always desperate for preorders.
 
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This guy. Teamblurr are not a developer, he is an artist looking for a job that likes to console war. He would not comment on the tecnhnical side because he does not know....Move on.

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He is also famous for saying that the PS5 Version of Far Cry 6 is just the PS4 Pro version in 4K aka its just running in BC mode, while true next gen is on Series X: (Edit: actually later one is speculative on my part, but it reads like that)
 
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He was the guy that got that Italian Sony engineer in trouble about 1 aspect of ps5 is still RDNA1 (mayeb cache scrubber ?) , and the sony engineer had to clear things up on an italian web site and make a statement. Nice guy eh ?

That's what bothered me the most. The Sony engineer sent him that DM and he made it public. That engineer could have been sued or lost his job due to that. I'm all for getting more information but if it's at the expense of others then it shouldn't be given.

He should know by now what NDAs can do to people. Releasing that DM just tells me he didn't care about what would happen to the Sony engineer if he was breaking an NDA with him. And all this for what?
 
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Whatever, I wont comment on people who call themelves develpers who have not made any games and DM real sony engineers on twitter and then post them on GAF to do fan wars.

He was the guy that got that Italian Sony engineer in trouble about 1 aspect of ps5 is still RDNA1 (mayeb cache scrubber ?) , and the sony engineer had to clear things up on an italian web site and make a statement. Nice guy eh ?

Pretending your a devloper, no games, opens up a web site with 1 image (he is a painter) and then using that to hound devepers on twitter is the lowest of the low. People should have some pride.

Gavin should really go back into his Xbox discord hole, doubt he will ever make a game as he said himself he cant animate..
He is the pegion guy.
in my country we call the penis a "pegion" because when it sits on the balls it looks like a pegion. 🤣
 
Okay, I haven't heard from them yet. I called the two local GameStop near me and the lists are not active yet.

We shall see if they show up here if they've indeed shown up overseas. A lot of those are placeholder names.

With Gamescom coming, it is definitely possible.
 
That's what bothered me the most. The Sony engineer sent him that DM and he made it public. That engineer could have been sued or lost his job due to that. I'm all for getting more information but if it's at the expense of others then it shouldn't be given.

Aparently he got death threats on twitter and it all spiralled out into crazy land. Bad stuff.

I stay clear of social media posting....We just having a laugh on GAF and its anonymous as we all have silly names, but some take this shit far too seriously and a purpose in life.
 
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This guy. Teamblurr are not a developer, he is an artist looking for a job that likes to console war. He would not comment on the tecnhnical side because he does not know....Move on.

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Trust me it is the same in every industry and from my experience, he will never get a job with a well respected developer.
Such bias and behavior in social media is not accepted by any company including his beloved Microsoft.
 
Does it? Not really bothered about Dolby Atmos or DTS X just yet, but having to get a subscription sounds ridiculous anyway.
All I know is in the Sounds menu on my PS4, I chose DTS over Dolby for my soundbar.
Depends on the device.
Xbox has native Atmos support. You only have to pay for a code to use Atmos in headphones.
Meanwhile my LG TV doesn't need a license
 
Gamestop Germany, a printout in English. Right :D

Also, 100 euros for a game, suuuure.

When Finland had GameStops(they all closed 2020) they had prints on english too, not in our native language.

Also receipts were in english on big parts.

And they had around 100€ place Holder prices.

But is that legit, no idea
 
I don't consider XSX GPU 'wide'. It's wider than PS5, sure. But 1825mhz is already quite high for a console featuring 52CUs at 7nm.

Is 1825 MHz high for RDNA2 or low ?

We only have 2 data points so far, XSX at 1825 and ps5 at 2230 MHz. It remains to be seen what is high and what is low for tSMC 7nm+ using some EUV. Lets wait until PC parts come. I bet they are around 2.0-2.1 Ghz but wlll wait and see, not long now.
 
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