Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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ODDWORLD CREATOR SUGGESTS PS5 WILL ALLOW PLAYERS TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT MORE THAN EVER






I told you guys the OS features will be revolutionary. Sony is leaving no stone unturned, every aspect of the console must be a huge upgrade..... What I am most looking forward to is the teardown of the console, which would show the custom design in more light and also clue us in on the ports included and other bits. Of course equally, and even more importantly is the OS, since it's the interface and feature set we will be using everyday alongside the 'well rumored" revamped PSN.....Sony is going all out with no twiddling of thumbs insight......That Jim Ryan is just a ravenous predator....
 

Eh I doubt it. Sony will sell less and less physical copies, why waste the money to start making new cases? They already have the supply chain and materials to make PS4 cases, just reuse them and save cash. Looks like PS5 cases are just PS4 cases with a new slipcover header.


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I will say one thing about Microsoft: they are trying to completely change how the console industry works.
GamePass, Xbox for Windows, no longer believing in generations, downplaying the importance of hardware, GaaS instead of single player.
 
Eh I doubt it. Sony will sell less and less physical copies, why waste the money to start making new cases? They already have the supply chain and materials to make PS4 cases, just reuse them and save cash. Looks like PS5 cases are just PS4 cases with a new slipcover header.


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They already do red cases for PlayStation Hits and it seems no compromise.
 

Man, Hargett is vicious, brutal even, and not just this time alone you see..... Hargett is like the FUD police. Everytime I've seen FUD's ugly critter face pop up, trying to spread germs and bacteria in the media circle, Hargett pops around and deals some brutal justice to these infectious microorganisms. He is like the ultimate Sylvester Stallone clone, unleashed against the FUDfaithful.....Hear ye Hear ye, a cleansing they shall receive...
 
Man, Hargett is vicious, brutal even, and not just this time alone you see..... Hargett is like the FUD police. Everytime I've seen FUD's ugly critter face pop up, trying to spread germs and bacteria in the media circle, Hargett pops around and deals some brutal justice to these infectious microorganisms. He is like the ultimate Sylvester Stallone clone, unleashed against the FUDfaithful.....Hear ye Hear ye, a cleansing they shall receive...
 
I should probably not write this but need to get it off my chest.

We have limited information regarding several features for the new consoles - XSX and PS5.

When I read posts here, on the Discord ERA group or that other forum one theme that is recurring is that Sony is not being honest about their new system. That Sony is trying to talk up the SSD or Audio solutions because the PS5 is far behind the XSX in terms of GPU.

The fair take is that we do not fully know the capabilities of the new systems. Secondly, the majority of us do not have sufficient knowledge about the microarchitecture of consoles to be able to assess the importance of low latency high-throughout I/O, how much of a potential bottleneck the GPU caches are, the average utilisation of CUs and what is actually holding them back, the power consumption pattern of a modern GPU and how that relates to bottle-necks and thermal limits and so on.

All we have are the words of team Sony (mostly through Mark Cerny) and team MS (mostly through the words of Phil Spencer).

Now - based on our Dunning-Kruger immersed cooking at these forums - why on earth would anyone bet that Phil is right over Mark? If I knew nothing and just looked at the statements from both of them over the last 5-10 years and checked those statements vis-a-vis actual outcome, no-one in their right mind would trust Spencer over Cerny.

Please note that ultimately we will have to wait for the two new consoles to perform in the real world across a plethora of games and applications to know. But right now I do not understand why people mistrust Cerny - and what makes them trust Spencer so much. I simply do not get it.
 
I should probably not write this but need to get it off my chest.

We have limited information regarding several features for the new consoles - XSX and PS5.

When I read posts here, on the Discord ERA group or that other forum one theme that is recurring is that Sony is not being honest about their new system. That Sony is trying to talk up the SSD or Audio solutions because the PS5 is far behind the XSX in terms of GPU.

The fair take is that we do not fully know the capabilities of the new systems. Secondly, the majority of us do not have sufficient knowledge about the microarchitecture of consoles to be able to assess the importance of low latency high-throughout I/O, how much of a potential bottleneck the GPU caches are, the average utilisation of CUs and what is actually holding them back, the power consumption pattern of a modern GPU and how that relates to bottle-necks and thermal limits and so on.

All we have are the words of team Sony (mostly through Mark Cerny) and team MS (mostly through the words of Phil Spencer).

Now - based on our Dunning-Kruger immersed cooking at these forums - why on earth would anyone bet that Phil is right over Mark? If I knew nothing and just looked at the statements from both of them over the last 5-10 years and checked those statements vis-a-vis actual outcome, no-one in their right mind would trust Spencer over Cerny.

Please note that ultimately we will have to wait for the two new consoles to perform in the real world across a plethora of games and applications to know. But right now I do not understand why people mistrust Cerny - and what makes them trust Spencer so much. I simply do not get it.
I will believe the games. We have Craig vs Ratchet, Craig vs Miles, Craig's land vehicle vs GTA7
 

I made this. Does it mean I can market myself as an indie developer ? :messenger_tears_of_joy:

At least you something, but Bo's Blazing Controller (BBC, CEO and Founder) had made some amazing going back to Family Game (NES), the tank game level editor, all the way to LittleBigPlanet. That must count for something, I get plenty of PM's from people thanking me for my tech savviness.

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I teach children just for fun, not for the money, but I get paid anyway. Don't mix up my hobbies with my profession.
 
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I should probably not write this but need to get it off my chest.

We have limited information regarding several features for the new consoles - XSX and PS5.

When I read posts here, on the Discord ERA group or that other forum one theme that is recurring is that Sony is not being honest about their new system. That Sony is trying to talk up the SSD or Audio solutions because the PS5 is far behind the XSX in terms of GPU.

The fair take is that we do not fully know the capabilities of the new systems. Secondly, the majority of us do not have sufficient knowledge about the microarchitecture of consoles to be able to assess the importance of low latency high-throughout I/O, how much of a potential bottleneck the GPU caches are, the average utilisation of CUs and what is actually holding them back, the power consumption pattern of a modern GPU and how that relates to bottle-necks and thermal limits and so on.

All we have are the words of team Sony (mostly through Mark Cerny) and team MS (mostly through the words of Phil Spencer).

Now - based on our Dunning-Kruger immersed cooking at these forums - why on earth would anyone bet that Phil is right over Mark? If I knew nothing and just looked at the statements from both of them over the last 5-10 years and checked those statements vis-a-vis actual outcome, no-one in their right mind would trust Spencer over Cerny.

Please note that ultimately we will have to wait for the two new consoles to perform in the real world across a plethora of games and applications to know. But right now I do not understand why people mistrust Cerny - and what makes them trust Spencer so much. I simply do not get it.

Has Phil given a technical talk on the XSX hardware? If you go back to the teardown with DF, there was an engineering team there to answer questions. No one should listen to Phil when it comes to talking about how the hardware functions. Even Phil doesn't listen to Phil (the explanation for contradictory statements).
 
Man, Hargett is vicious, brutal even, and not just this time alone you see..... Hargett is like the FUD police. Everytime I've seen FUD's ugly critter face pop up, trying to spread germs and bacteria in the media circle, Hargett pops around and deals some brutal justice to these infectious microorganisms. He is like the ultimate Sylvester Stallone clone, unleashed against the FUDfaithful.....Hear ye Hear ye, a cleansing they shall receive...
I tried to follow the twitter thread, but god help me... The persecution complex is HUGE!

When the "Is it RDNA2 or not" bullshit has been put to bed so many times and yet some people are so desperate to hold onto that little sliver of FUD... It needs to be used as the stick of facts to repeatedly bashed into their heads.

Seriously... Grow up, Gavin.
 
I swear, every time I refresh this thread the same shit is on every 10 pages.
"PS5 is RDNA1!", "I'm insider trust me plzzz", "12 TF 12 TF 12 TF 12 TF".

I haven't seen this amount of concern trolling not even in the 360 days when the whole narrative was "oh but if PS3 iz more powarful why game looks better on 360"

Just for the love of god stop with this shit.
 
I should probably not write this but need to get it off my chest.

We have limited information regarding several features for the new consoles - XSX and PS5.

When I read posts here, on the Discord ERA group or that other forum one theme that is recurring is that Sony is not being honest about their new system. That Sony is trying to talk up the SSD or Audio solutions because the PS5 is far behind the XSX in terms of GPU.

The fair take is that we do not fully know the capabilities of the new systems. Secondly, the majority of us do not have sufficient knowledge about the microarchitecture of consoles to be able to assess the importance of low latency high-throughout I/O, how much of a potential bottleneck the GPU caches are, the average utilisation of CUs and what is actually holding them back, the power consumption pattern of a modern GPU and how that relates to bottle-necks and thermal limits and so on.

All we have are the words of team Sony (mostly through Mark Cerny) and team MS (mostly through the words of Phil Spencer).

Now - based on our Dunning-Kruger immersed cooking at these forums - why on earth would anyone bet that Phil is right over Mark? If I knew nothing and just looked at the statements from both of them over the last 5-10 years and checked those statements vis-a-vis actual outcome, no-one in their right mind would trust Spencer over Cerny.

Please note that ultimately we will have to wait for the two new consoles to perform in the real world across a plethora of games and applications to know. But right now I do not understand why people mistrust Cerny - and what makes them trust Spencer so much. I simply do not get it.

Well Sony are still holding quite a few cards to their chest.

Until they lay em out on the table, this "confusion" will continue.

Personally, I still think they'll knock it outta the park. Mind you, they've dragged this out no end though.
 
BTW is this sony whatever happening on Tuesday ? I'm on a bit of a high from Bayern Munich winning the Champions league. Hoping for quick news from Sony to prolong this high(ness ?)
 
Well, if Sony is going to make any move prior to Gamescom, I feel it'll have to be announced today. MAYBE tomorrow at the latest. If not, guess it's off til September, maybe even after Labor Day.

Gamescom has 38 titles, but a lot of them may be updates on existing titles as Geoff stated. I feel my excitement waning for next-gen. 7 days until the end of August.

Sony needs to drop something good. I'd like to see even Microsoft drop some stuff showing their righting the ship. This is an agonizing wait.
 
Or not, Geordiemp was funny althought lately Geordiemp was very burned with the FUD of the greens.

Oh no. I relied on his tech wizardry so I could basterdize it and pretend I know something. :messenger_weary:

I guess I'm down to just the metroid guy now. First world problems...

Seriously, it's just a temp for Geordiemp right?
 
Oh no. I relied on his tech wizardry so I could basterdize it and pretend I know something. :messenger_weary:

I guess I'm down to just the metroid guy now. First world problems...

Seriously, it's just a temp for Geordiemp right?

Like a lingering fart, he will return,

your nostrils will inhale his presence once again,
 
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I think both consoles will have 2.
Scheduling was improved in RDNA.
The reason for 8 ACE in GCN was the lack of a good scheduler, that can fill all the pipelines. That's why RDNA IPC grew so much over GCN.

it took me months to get rid of that technical scum bag geordiemp geordiemp and now you arrive with even more, harder to understand jargon.

Dammit.

why is nothing ever simple.

#Simple lives matter too
 
Pure filth and i am not talking about the picture. YOUR MIND
Erm yeah I think, and that you already knew what I'm thinking then welcome to the club :messenger_winking:

Question is how was did this pass Sony's prudish standards? Or is this really from the Crack-Down gameplay, cos the name sure fits :messenger_tears_of_joy:...

Oh where is my mind ( :poop: )
... cue the Pixies song
 


If they wait this much the price has to be cheap don't ya'll think?


This person doesn't know anything either. Next week, the week after, no one knows anything. I doubt it's this week. I'll go that far. I do think that Sony and Microsoft know this is really starting to agitate hardcore customers. Core customers and even those hoping to give something special for the holidays might start to get agitated soon.
 
I reckon Sony and MS are going to pull an Apple and reveal the price 4-5 weeks before release. Right now, both companies are ramping up production to bury retail under an avalanche of units.

I'll just wait a few months. Should have enough cash by then, too. Just have to keep putting those pennies in the jar.

(ring ring! ring ring!)

Me: Hello?

Phone: Hello, it's the tax man here, calling from HMRC.

Me: (eep!) What's up?

Phone: You're getting a tax refund of a few thousand quid*. Enough to buy a bunch of PS5s.

Me: Get in! :messenger_grinning:

(* - no, really - this actually happened this morning! LOL!)
 
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