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That looks way lower than PS5 pre-orders... can't be true.
You and me can say MSFT is not worth 1.5 trillion. But the market says so. I am lifting figures off live. 50 million × 200$ worth MSFT shares changed hands yesterday in one day. They all believe Microsoft is worth 1.5 trillion, and combined they have lot of cash. Not difficult for a company to raise cash selling parts of itself.That was sarcastic. My point is that Market cap, networth whatever means shit. You need a cash that can be spent. A price have the cash that as you pointed out cannot be spent.
I prefer Linux. Buying series s and ps5 digital.Come on man, wasn't that after monster hunter world breaking sales records, being the best selling game from them EVER and number one Japanese game on steam?
They were in really bad shape prior to it, but yeah.... agree to disagree.
So am I and a lot of people here. Doesn`t mean that you, or everyone else don`t have a preference. It doesn't make it a "I'm not a fanboy free pass" or that I didn't hit the nail on the head.![]()
the thing is there will be sales too....You guys needed a win, last time with the 12TF was months ago.
See that I said user base, meaning potential customers. How many versions of Skyrim did we saw again?
Basic math:
5M x $70 = 350M
25M x $10 = 250M
That said, they need to pay the other publishers their cut from Gamepass.
Are you sure they are willing to ignore the sales? Just like they couldn't ignore on Minecraft case.
It's just business, man.
Minecraft, Gears of War 5 and some cartoony turn-based indie game that could run at 1080p30 on my microwave.Im confused has there been Any series X gameplay for any game ?
My point is, what kept publishers "in check" for this long, were the MTX/GaaS/Season Passes and DLCs.
We've reached to a point, where they saw the numbers due to covid and likely thought "the time is now". People habits changed, they are consuming more games and as in any other market: "more demand means higher prices".
That is one part of the equation though, as games will be more expensive to make as I previously pointed out.
Investors don't expect to break even, they expect a return from their investments. Devs need to keep publishers happy, publishers need to keep investors happy, we'll have to spend more on our shinny new games.
You can always go the Gamepass/used games/finish your backlog until prices drop routes.
Compared to other hobbies, ours is still considerably cheap. Coming from the guy that will likely spend 900USD on his PS5 preorder in a few days.
Am I happy with the prices? Not at all. Do I think it's unfair? Not at all.
Seriously that it no series X games ??Minecraft, Gears of War 5 and some cartoony turn-based indie game that could run at 1080p30 on my microwave.
Like a lot of free things, linux is beautiful on paper and on specific cases, but for a desktop I'll always use windows.I prefer Linux. Buying series s and ps5 digital.![]()
everybody is kinda shocked i guess. everybody is in the other 5 threads that were made after this bombshellI had never seen the (next gen specs) xbox bashing thread this quiet.![]()
I think they simply know that all early pre-orders will sell out anyway, and if they can choose they'd rather people buy the more expensive SKU. More digital consoles available means more people that would have bought a standard console had one been for sale instead, and they don't want that.What do you guys think? Microsoft & Sony purposefully holding back digital models for Black Friday? Maybe they need something to compete against other merchandise on that day? Random thought.
Use this instead, that gif looks disgusting:
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I explained in detail why: They want money.These are all fair points but then again I ask why isn't it consistent across the entire industry? Sometimes even the same publisher has different price points on the same product.
Publishers and developers have said for years games are getting too expensive to make and they found other sources of revenue and kept making them but now suddenly I am supposed to believe that publishers and developers are hurting after they are posting record numbers?
Do you really expect me to believe the quality of CoD and NBA 2K have suffered because of the $60 price point?
Minecraft, Gears of War 5 and some cartoony turn-based indie game that could run at 1080p30 on my microwave.
Maybe they want to create the deception of high demand by providing low supply![]()
I thought I specifically mentioned PS sales, didn't I?the thing is there will be sales too....
you just ignore or pretend there will not.
You and me can say MSFT is not worth 1.5 trillion. But the market says so. I am lifting figures off live. 50 million × 200$ worth MSFT shares changed hands yesterday in one day. They all believe Microsoft is worth 1.5 trillion, and combined they have lot of cash. Not difficult for a company to raise cash selling parts of itself.
Xbox isn't about gameplay anymore. Game Pass is such a good value, who needs to see any gameplay right?The Microsoft announcement is huge, but it beggars belief that we've still seen no Series X gameplay with 12 hours to go until pre orders.
this guy cant be more transparent
That dude... I have no words,Now we know what he was really doing. He was gloating.
It's Zenimax who said it's worthless not me. You wanna buy us, bring your cash.You and me can say MSFT is not worth 1.5 trillion. But the market says so. I am lifting figures off live. 50 million × 200$ worth MSFT shares changed hands yesterday in one day. They all believe Microsoft is worth 1.5 trillion, and combined they have lot of cash. Not difficult for a company to raise cash selling parts of itself.
Doesn't means sony cannot raise money. There is Japanese government. Investors who believe sony businesses sustainable will give money in excess of their market cap. Game Businesses who think playstation works well with them, could merge instead of being bought.
I thought the same thing... and the weird Tom something keep pushing the guys lol
Xbox isn't about gameplay anymore. Game Pass is such a good value, who needs to see any gameplay right?
Nah, GamePass will still be GamePass on PC and X-Box and PS Now will be on PC and PlayStation 5. Ecosystems. Just like Netflix and HBO may share a few common series but have their exclusives respectively (Witcher / Game of Thrones), so will GamePass and PS Now have common games and their respective exclusives (Halo / Spider-Man).It feels like for Gamepass to become the "Netflix of Games" then MS eventually needs to take the leap and make Gamepass available to Stadia, PS5, Switch, etc. I think that's the only way they get enough volume to make a service like this sustainable with this type of acquisition. It just doesn't make sense otherwise.
And I doubt we'll see any at this point. Microsoft completely sidelined the elephant in the room with an announcement so insane it overshadowed everything that has been talked about so far in regards to the new consoles. The timing is definitely not a coincidence.The Microsoft announcement is huge, but it beggars belief that we've still seen no Series X gameplay with 12 hours to go until pre orders.
Depends on their long term strategy.Yeah I don't think they'll go full exclusive. They'll still get the PS game sales, and if not then they'll get some people buying their console and getting game pass
Microsoft buying Bethesda makes things hella interesting.
The next-gen war just got serious.
Will be interesting to see if Sony has any counter.
Awesome stuff lol
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe reserving the bulk via All Access? Probably not, but that's pretty sucky. They'd better let people on line know how many there will be before they make people waste time.
I'd rather nobody make acquisitions like this, honestly. I have a bit of a bitter taste here, because it reminds me of when I had to buy an Xbox to get Shenmue II. You preach ecosystem, then go out and buy a major player like Bethesda.
I mean, when it's somebody like Insomniac, it makes sense since they were predominantly one platform anyway, similar to Bluepoint. When it's a major multiplat developer, it's kinda shitty.
I'd rather not see this bidding war garbage start back up. I dunno. Sounds like stuff will be akin to Minecraft, but I doubt Phil will acquiesce to big titles on the PS platform, I truly don't see it happening. Sounds like PR to downplay the backlash.
Now we know what he was really doing. He was gloating.
What do you guys think? Microsoft & Sony purposefully holding back digital models for Black Friday? Maybe they need something to compete against other merchandise on that day? Random thought.
Isn't MS buying Zenimax/Bethesta the counter to not having as many 1st party games as Sony already?
Why would you expect something like this? This is pure entitlement at this point.
Possible i missed it but the point still stand they will have sales on pc and xbox on top subscription you need to take them into account too and not only count subscriptionsI thought I specifically mentioned PS sales, didn't I?
If I didn't, please forgive me.
With that line of thought, which is cheaper? Subscribe for a month and finish the game or buy it at full price?
Do you think we can consider sales outside PS a "smart move"?![]()
no, thats just trending based on your interests.... check worldwide trending, Playstation isnt on it and MS, bathesda, fallout, Gamepass are all top 10Lol this is what's literally trending on Twitter for me.
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I explained in detail why: They want money.
I usually keep my expenses at around half of what I earn. Does that mean that I'll cut my salary in half so the company will have better profits? Hell no.
Do I think I'm fairly paid from my work? Fucking hell no. I'm a contractor and I know that the company I work for makes around 3 times what they pay me off my work alone.
See how this all works?
Just 100% confirming my local Gamestop, which there isnt another one within an hours drive of other Gamestops is getting less than the numbers showed here
Just 100% confirming my local Gamestop, which there isnt another one within an hours drive of other Gamestops is getting less than the numbers showed here